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Author Topic: Glucosamine/Chondroitin  (Read 4714 times)
Gypsy Jazmine
« on: September 15, 2006, 02:43:25 PM »

I found this posted at another dog group...What think you all?

The recent NIH (National Institutes of Health) GAIT study appears to the authoritative source on glucosamine & chondroitin use vis-a-vis osteoarthritis to date:

Please note the following:
1. G&C is NOT used for bone strength. It (supposedly) affects cartilage degeneration in joints.
2. They provided statistically significant pain relief to participants with moderate-to-severe osteoarthritic joint pain but NOT to those with only mild pain
3. Neither glucosamine nor chondroitin provided statistically significant pain relief when used alone (i.e., not in combination with each other)
4. There is insufficient evident to support using G&C for prophylactic use (i.e., to prevent cartilage regeneration)
5. G&C should not be used by those with shellfish allergies, as they are shellfish derivatives
6. These supplements are regulated as food, not as drugs. (You can find an evaluation of the actual amount of the ingredients in various brands at ConsumerReport

KEY TAKE-AWAY: In all but severe cases specifically of osteoarthritis, it is probably not helpful to give your pet glucosamine and chondroitin. I am not aware of EVIDENCE-BASED scientifically-conducted studies proving any efficacy in pets. Better to save your money or buy a more comfortable bed.
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2006, 03:15:11 PM »

I sort of heard this through Cowboy's breeder...that's why we use Cetyl M....I have no idea how good it is except he was limping (arthritis in both front elbows) when we got him and he hasn't limped at all since he's been on Cetyl M. 

Maybe it's a coincidence??
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2006, 04:52:33 PM »

newflvr, where do you get your cetyl m? I am thinking about trying it for zoey and am wondering where I can get a good deal on it (amazon has it for $90 for a 360 count bottle, which will only last for the first month and a half)

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2006, 10:39:12 AM »

newflvr, where do you get your cetyl m? I am thinking about trying it for zoey and am wondering where I can get a good deal on it (amazon has it for $90 for a 360 count bottle, which will only last for the first month and a half)
We get ours (3 bottles at a time....we didn't do the loading dose since we always worry about Cowboy seizing....and they are both doing well on it without doing the loading dose) from:


Here's the literature on it:

120 capsules
CM-120-1 - $34.95
(3 or more bottles - $31.95)

360 capsules
CM-360-1 - $94.95
(3 or more bottles - $88.95)

katie's bumpers originals

(for humans)
51 capsules - $44.95

katie's bumpers originals

136 capsules - $15.95

katie's bumpers originals

1 oz. Jar
CMCREAM - $6.00


    * What Does it Do?
    * Joint Relief for Arthritis and Dysplasia
    * Our Story
    * Myristin and Myrist-Aid For People and Dogs
    * CM Response® Topical Cream
    * The Story of Cetyl Myristoleate
    * Technical and Medical Studies - links
    * Ordering Suggestions for Dogs
    * Ordering Suggestions for Humans

Cetyl M® is a natural nutritional supplement. A combination of Cetyl Myristoleate and Glucosamine HCL work together to create optimum joint health.  Cetyl M® is used to repair and reduce dysplasia and other joint problems.

Cetyl M® is the replacement product for Joint Response.   Last year, Response Products™ decided to replace Joint Response (200mg CM, 200mg Glucosamine HCL)  with Cetyl M® (250mg CM, 250mg Glucosamine HCL).  Cetyl M® had only been available through vets and is now available from Katie's Bumpers and our great resellers around the world.  If they don't carry it yet, they can order it for you through Katie's Bumpers.  Just ask them.


      Promotes recovery from joint injury (joint repair)
      Joint lubricant - creates synovial fluid (the fluid that lubricates the joints)
      Reduces joint pain and inflammation
      Regulates immune response for optimum joint recovery
      Acts directly against the T-Cells that cause arthritis and reprograms these cells so they don't attack joints.

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MYRISTIN: Myristin® softgels from EHP are the only 40% Ceytl Myristoleate softgels on the market. The large amount of CMO per softgel (260 mg) allows consumers to take fewer capsules daily and to consume the recommended amount of product in a shorter time.
MYRIST-AID: Myrist-Aid is a synergistic capsule which is taken with Myristin®. Myrist-Aid is designed to be supportive and aid in absorption when taking Myristin.
Each capsule of Myrist-Aid contains glucosamine sulfate, 200 mg; methylsulfonyl methane (MSM), 200 mg: ascorbic acid, 100 mg; bromelain, 12 mg; manganese, 2.0 mg: curcumin, 4 mg; lecithin, 100 mg; and lipase, 1,800 units.

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All-natural CM Response® Topical Cream is a revolutionary new joint health product for humans that provides fast relief from joint pain and discomfort, tendonitis, muscle cramps and soreness from injury. This amazing topical cream contains two of the most effective joint-health ingredients on the market—a patented vegetable source of Cetyl Myristoleate and Glucosamine-HCL—combined with soothing Aloe Vera for easy application and comfort.

Unscented and water-based, CM Response® Topical Cream will not stain or stick to clothing—and is readily absorbed by the skin for fast-acting relief when and where you need it most. That’s welcome relief, with no smelly odors that are common to most pain relief creams.

CM Response® Topical Cream contains only natural ingredients and acts as an anti-inflammatory agent, an analgesic and a joint lubricant. CM Response® Topical Cream is very effective in relieving neck and back pain and pain from arthritis, including osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, gout, and fibromyalgia.

CM Response® Topical Cream is different than other creams that work only on the surface of the skin. CM Response® Topical Cream penetrates the skin and enters the blood supply where it travels quickly to the connective tissues in the area.

Directions: Apply liberally 3 to 4 times daily
For even greater, longer-lasting relief, use CM Response® Topical Cream in conjunction with CM Response® capsules

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There's nothing more heartbreaking than seeing your beloved four-legged companion in pain.  For years, glucosamine has been the primary treatment for canine joint problems, but now there's Advanced Cetyl M® Joint Action Formula for Dogs' available in convenient and tasty tablet form.

Dog lovers everywhere have seen a dramatic improvement in their pets' comfort, mobility, agility and happiness when they start them on Advanced Cetyl M®— - even after years of glucosamine treatments. Even dogs with hip dysplasia and severe arthritis have enjoyed unbelievable results. 

Advanced Cetyl M® Joint Action Formula for Dogs is designed for old and young dogs alike. Feeding Advanced Cetyl M® to younger and active sporting dogs can also help prevent the onset of joint problems.


Each tablet of Advanced Cetyl M® Joint Action Formula for Dogs contains:

Cetyl Myristoleate* - 250mg
Glucosamine HCL - 250mg

Other ingredients include: Garlic Root, Bromelain, Boswellin Extract, Ginger Root Extract, Yucca Extract, Lipase and Natural Roast Beef and Liver flavorings.

* The Cetyl Myristoleate in Advanced Cetyl M® Joint Action Formula for Dogs is a unique blend of an esterified fatty acid from both beef and vegetable sources. This compound is not recognized as an essential nutrient by the AAFCO feed nutrient profile.


Advanced Cetyl M® Joint Action Formula for Dogs includes two sources of Cetyl Myristoleate—- including our vegetable source extracted from the African kombo nut (wild nutmeg). We've combined this plant-derived source of Cetyl Myristoleate with the beef-derived form (dogs love beef!) to create a unique dual source of Cetyl Myristoleate in our targeted joint action formula.

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Here is our story:

We, my husband Greg and I, had a malamute for 12 years.  We rescued Brio at 18 months.  At 11 years and 130 lbs, he was having major hip problems.  As you have seen with your dogs, he was having a very difficult time getting up and laying down.  You could just tell he was in pain.  This was our best friend and we (like you) would try most anything to help him feel better and have a longer life.  Putting him down was NOT an option.

My folks, Katie's parents, have 16 Newfies.  Mom suggested that we put Brio on Chondroitin, but it only worked for a short time.  Then we found Joint Response.  It is now Cetyl M.  We put Brio on this in the spring of 2002.  The results were incredible.  He wasn't acting like a 2 year old, but he had an amazing amount of mobility.  Other than his hips, he was in perfect health.  We had him on Joint Response for 2 1/2 years.  We added in extra MSM, Glucosamine/Chondroitin, later on, we added some Nupro to his food.  Everything helped, but the Joint Response (Cetyl M) saved his life and gave Brio and us an extra 2 1/2 years with him.

I just knew that if we had this kind of success, that other people could too.  I am bringing this product to you as a gift for your older dogs.  I just started carrying it in October, so the stories are trickling in.  So far, we have heard amazing stories from just noticeable improvement to dogs being able to walk again.

If you decide that you want to try it, I will help you in any way that I can.  It is not the end all for every dog, but even if you are able to give your dog more comfort and mobility, you will both be so grateful.

Cats can take this too.

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Cetyl Myristoleate was discovered by the late Harry Diehl, a research chemist at the National Institute of Health (NIH). In addition to isolating Cetyl Myristoleate and more than 500 other first-time compounds, Diehl is also known for discovering a method for synthesizing the unique sugar form used in the preparation of Dr. Jonas Salk's oral polio vaccine.

But what about the mouse? Well, during Diehl's research on arthritis, he discovered that he was unable to induce arthritis in a particular species of Swiss albino mice. He theorized that these particular mice carried a special trait that helped prevent the onset of arthritis—- and he eventually was able to isolate Cetyl Myristoleate as the secret compound.

To test his theory, he pretreated a species of rat susceptible to arthritis with the Cetyl Myristoleate he had isolated from the Swiss mouse. And when he tried to induce arthritis in these rats, lo and behold, he could not.

Diehl's quest for an effective treatment for arthritis was spawned by his desire to help a close friend who suffered terribly from a debilitating form of arthritis. His friend passed away before Diehl discovered Cetyl Myristoleate and, amazingly, his discovery went relatively unattended for more than 30 years.

As fate would have it, Diehl later developed degenerative joint disease (osteoarthritis) himself. Unable to find lasting relief from treatments of cortisone and a variety of the usual non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, he returned to the lab and “- cooked up” another batch of Cetyl Myristoleate. He then mixed it with a topical solution that acted as a carrier and applied it to his ailing joints. It worked! And his joints were completely pain free after only 10 days.

Today, your animals can enjoy the same relief and benefits from this natural joint-enhancer in Advanced Cetyl M® Joint Action Formulas for dogs and horses. And just think, it all started with a mouse.

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Here are the following links for some technical and medical studies that have been conducted on Cetyl Myristoleate:

Harry Diehl's Study
Study done in San Diego about CM
The Siemandi Study
The Barathur Study


In order to get the full effect of Cetyl M, you will need to give your pet the pills according to the following instructions.

Loading Dose: The first 6 weeks (42 days). Give 2 pills for every 25 lbs.
Maintenance Dose: 1 pill/25 lbs.

If you have a large dog or dog with a sensitive constitution, the glucosamine-hcl may cause loose stool. If you experience this, back off on the loading dose and work your way up to the recommended amount. Contact Katie’s Bumpers with ANY questions about Cetyl M. We are here to support you and the health of your dog. 866-642-0544 or

In order to get the full effect of Myristin, you will need to take all of the pills according to the following instructions.

Loading Dose:  60 days  4 bottles each will last approximately 84 days

Myristin:  3 per day       Myrist-Aid:  8 day
Maintenance Dose:  Myristin:  1 per day            Myrist-Aid:  3 day

Recommended by the Manufacturer:  Three Myristin® softgels are taken dailywith water on an empty stomach, about 30-45 minutes before meals, or just before meals if that fits your daily schedule better.  Three Myrist-Aid capsules are taken with each Myristin® softgel at lunch and dinner, and two at breakfast for a total of eight Myrist-Aid daily.


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