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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2005, 04:50:11 PM »

Newflvr - I am on a rawfeeding message board and there was someone who posted about his dog having seziures and he switched him to raw food...ended up off all medication and no seziures for quite awhile.  He said he lost his job and money was tight so started feeding kibble again within 2 weeks his dog started having seziures again.  He switched him back to raw and no seziures in a year....  pretty interesting stuff!!! 

I agree these message boards are the best....It is so nice to be able to share info.  there are some very informative people here at BPO
 You are doing and have done the best you could do I am sure...and with more knowledge we all grow stronger in taking care of our sweet furbabies.... 
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2005, 05:27:37 PM »

I've heard the same things about kibble...inter esting that it worked SO well for that guys dog!  Cowboy has gone from cluster seizing every couple of weeks (sometimes everyday!!! Sad) to only one in the last 4 1/2 months!  Of course he's on tons of meds as well, but I figure whatever works...and at this point, it's working!

I'd rather put money in food instead of vet bills!!!!
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2005, 05:43:27 PM »

I agree - less money to vets and more on nutrition.  I am still pretty new to the raw feeding thing...just getting it organized so that it is not time consuming is what I am working on now...  But my dogs love it.  My male pom thinks he has died and gone to heaven.  Willow was weaned to raw from my breeder so she is fine with it....  Actually it has been kind of fun and now my dogs eat better then I or my kids do - lol

My bestfriend has a yellow lab - sweet boy - that has a nasty tumor wrapped around his kidney.  Also a ton of other problems.  She started using the premade raw diet and he loves it and acts like he is feeling better.  The cancer is terminal but at least if it makes him feel better then it is worth it.  My vet said it is probably nutrition related.  Cancer grows on Carbs which is predominately processed foods.  I guess there is a lot of literature to suggest processed foods for dogs causing quite a bit of health problems.  Anyway if you haven't read Billinghurts books - you should he is really great about nutrition and supplements. And it is easy to read.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2005, 06:41:49 PM »

I read a lot about raw foods and actually had Lucille and Cowboy on it.  They both LOVED it!  The emergency room doc that took care of both of them (at one point they were in two different hospitals at the same time....both with life threatening emergencies... .awful, awful week!!!) hated it.  She's the one who convinced me it's not for dogs with serious health issues.  The bacteria that can be controlled by a healthy dog can overwhelm a dog who isn't completely healthy.  They both had to be on antibiotics to control it while being treated for their other problems.  She also was worried about the raw bones causing blockages....s o I give them raw beef marrow bones frozen!  We are sort of walking a middle ground by cooking the raw food (with out bone) and freezing the bones.  As I said, it may not be perfect, but it's working for the time being!
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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2005, 07:54:27 PM »

as long as it is working and they are both getting healthier is all that matters...  I s there any supplements to help strengthen their immune system....  Vit C is awesome for stress...I think kelp is good too...although with dogs on lots of meds you never quite know what will react....I was so happy to find this holistic vet...I think she is great and will also use traditional medicine as well.  She doesn't do surgerys though..we have a 2nd vet for that type of stuff.
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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2005, 08:36:03 PM »

hi everyone, i have done this for the last three years
dist parvo boosters, given every three years, a month or two after the three year rabies.
my pups are no going in at eight weeks instead of six for their first sh0t as new evidance shows they carry immunity from mommy up to 12 weeks.
i think 8 weeks is a good compromise.
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2005, 12:33:19 PM »

I took Cowboy to a holistic vet for acupuncture to try to help stablize his rear end and got tons of good info from him about foods, etc.  Sadly, the acupuncture didn't help at all but we are now in the process of reducing his anti-seizure meds a bit to see if that will help.  It was funny though to see him TOTALLY relax with all those needles projecting out all over him.....litera lly from the tip of his nose to his back end!  He'd just fall asleep with his head in my arms!!!
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2005, 12:35:49 PM »

Wow - that is cool...my vet does acupuncture also.  Have never seen it used on animals before.  Hope the decreasing meds works....
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2005, 01:07:06 PM »

WOW thanks for all the great info! I remember my vet mentioning to me about vaccines being linked to cancer. And when I metioned to her that my cat is only an indoor cat , she cut out many of the vaccines that are normally given, because of the cancer risk.  She said to me why give somthing that is not needed.


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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2005, 01:25:48 PM »

I dont want to make anyone more upset than they already are, BUT this is such an important issue. The link here has real horrible pics of vaccination reactions in danes, who at first were misdiagnosed. There is also on the site the link comes from, several good tips of feeding, supplements and vaccination articles.

http://www.greatdanelady.com/articles/examples_of_vaccine_reactions_in_great_danes.htm

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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2005, 01:50:58 PM »

Wow I never know how bad it could be!. Dilbert had a reaction to his last shot that had rabies in it. He developed a small lump on his leg. We took him to the vert right away, he was fine though and the lump went away. Thank goodness.
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2005, 02:30:41 PM »

It is so important to really do your homework where vaccines are concerned.... I really just dont want to give any at all to my pup...just scares me...
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2005, 05:33:00 PM »

It is scary, and something that makes you wonder is. WHY, why do we have problems like this today. Say 30 years ago, these problems were not at all as obvious as now. I wonder if we slowly but surly have made our dogs react in this way, by vaccinating more and more and also adding certain protein to the vaccines when manufactured, that seems to have a bad impact on the immune system.

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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2005, 03:27:35 PM »

Several years ago I had a 9 year old Dane who hadn't had any shots in 2 1/2 years, I was going to do them all when her rabies came due. I worked at a shelter then, and brought home the most beautiful little brindle Dane pup you ever saw. She and the pup were together for two days when the pup developed a horrible case of the fast-acting parvo, and died within 24 hours.
I was so worried about the older dog being exposed, but the best advice/explanation I got was from a vet who told me that adult dogs who were vaccinated as pups and then go lots of places (my dog went everywhere except work) are the least at risk, and probably don't need anymore shots, the reason being that they are probably exposed to distemper and parvo at least once a month in their travels, and that exposure acts just like the shot does, keeps the antibody levels up.
She never did get sick at all, even though she was licking and playing with the pup right up until the time it got sick.
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2005, 05:17:13 PM »

How sad!!!!  I'm so sorry about the puppy!!!  And it makes sense to expose them to keep up the immunity!

Again, condolences about the puppy!!!!
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