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Newfoundlands => Newfoundland Discussions => : Liberty June 01, 2005, 05:31:49 AM
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HELP!!!
I have a 10 week old newf/saint mix. I am trying to house break her but she has her own ideas. I was trying to do it without a crate and just confining her to a 4x 8 area with outside access. She just doesn't get it!
If I get a crate, what should the day look like?
Thanks
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First off, you have many, many, many months before she will be fully and reliable housetrained. My Mastiff still had occasional accidents until she was 10 months and she was crate trained. My Newf mix caught on at 4-5 months and hasn't had an accident since. I believe in crate training but that is all I have ever known. I think it is a personal preference. I kept a hawk eye on my guys when they were little so who knows if they are truly housetrained or just go outside so much they might as well go potty while they are there. :P
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I wish I could offer words of wisdom on this but I can't. Bear has never been crated or kenneled and was almost 100% potty trained in 2 weeks. He is a very fast learner and loves to please. I'd say just keep an eye on your baby and take her out regularly and consistnetly until she gets the idea that potty is for outside only. Also, give lots of praise when she does go outside. Keep us posted on how things go.
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Crates work pretty well, but a small fenced in area was what worked for us. Another good idea to do is feed your dog in the enclosed area. Dogs don't like to do their business where they eat and sleep. Bottom line, you have to be patient. There will be more puddles and piles in your future, but it will end eventually. Good luck!
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I was taught that you roll up a newspaper and everytime the pup has an accident in the house...
you hit yourself in the head with the rolled up paper.
;D
At ten weeks...pups pee a lot. when the first wake up, when they move around a lot, when they drink, when they walk a ways...they have NO control over pee yet. We were lucky because our fellows potty trained very easy. Any accidents after the first week at home we're our fault for not paying attention.
We would run the pup out every 30 minutes for the first day and say..."Pee, go pee" and if our pup happened to...we praised!! And yes, also late at night. We'd wake the pup up every two hours and go outside. Once the pup pee'd, we'd take the pup to the same spot. They can smell the pee and it will sometimes trigger the need.
We used a crate at night but set our alarm. The crate was in our room. We use a crate because we want our dogs to get used to being in a crate while traveling. Their safe area. Plus, in our room means they are a part of our pack. It's all a matter of personal choice. But We swear by crate and the safety of the crate!
After the first couple of days, we learned about when the pup would pee. Also what the pup would do when ready to pee! Even if puppy starts to pee, you can yell, "NO NO NO NO" and it will distract the pup while you snag up the puppy and run outside!! Where they sniff around, take a minute and then remember what they were doing to begin with.
ROTFL! Okay, so a couple of times a pup didn't stop peeing the entire time I or the hubby were picking it up and running to the goal line!! Oh well, it cleans up!
But we were lucky and had success after a couple of weeks as long as WE kept an eye on the pup and were consistent.
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Night time potty parties...I sure don't miss those. I was up with Bear every 2 hours or so for the first few weeks just to make sure he didn't have an accident.
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well angus STILL wakes me up 2-3 times a night. sometimes cuz he has to pee, sometimes cuz he's bored.
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O.K. Let me just say that you guys are way too funny!! :D
We have only had her for 2 weeks and I do get up with her a couple of times in the night. She seems to be getting the B.M. part of going outside. For the most part (or at least 45%) of the time she does go out to pee. We leave the back door open all day for her. I guess I know that it will take a while but it is just one of those things that you want to happen NOW!!
We had a Saint Bernard who was trained after like the 4th day we had her! She was soooo smart and our sweetheart! We had to send her to the rainbow bridge on May 1st. She would have only been 4 on June 3rd. She had idiopathic epilepsy ( grand mal cluster seizures) every 4 or 5 months that would last a span of 36 hours (10 to 12 seizures) every time. She was on 2 different meds for that. She was also on a thyroid med. She was then diagnosed with Addidsons Disease. She would have to be on more meds for that. Her quality of life had deteriorated rapidly until she could no longer stand up on her own. We are still mourning her loss But Roxy, our new baby Newf/Saint mix makes us laugh and makes us smile when we look at Liberty"s picture now. Liberty is at the bridge hopefully telling Roxy to BE GOOD!!! I really DON"T want to use a crate because she is such a social animal and wants to be with me ALL the time. She even follows me into the bathroom!! My children did that when they were little! All you moms out there,Remember when you had NO PRIVATE TIME!! Thanks for all your suggestions. I will be done with school next week and can totally devote my days to the BABY!!
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You have a Newf/Saint Mix? Does she look anything like a Leonberger? Please post a pic if you haven't already, I would love to see what Roxy looks like. Sorry to hear about Liberty, I didn't read your earlier posts about her condition. I hear all the time about epileptic dogs, it seems like a common problem. My friend's dog had epilepsy but didn't have seizures very often. She ran away on every 4th of July when the fireworks would go off. While they were gone one year watching fireworks, they tied her up so she wouldn't jump the fence. She had a seizure and ended up strangling herself on the rope she was tied to. Very sad.... It is a scary condition and I'm am thankful that Drake doesn't suffer from it.
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Here she is!!
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Sweet little puff ball! :-*
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She's a beauty!
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What a sweet looking little girl. I know what you mean by being able to look at the photos and smile. I lost my dear sweet Rosie in July of 2004. Today at work Sugar Bear was laying in one of Rosie's special places. It made me cry and laugh all at the same time. The new babies will never take the place of the one you loved but they do make a place of there own in your heart. I would not have belived after the loss of Rosie that I could love my two new babies so much, but I do.
Lisa
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What a gorgeous face!
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oh she's too cute! what a fun mix!
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;D ;D
Very adorable!!
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Thanks! We do think she is pretty special. I really wanted another Saint but the rescue opportunity came along for this bundle of Newf/Saint joy. Looking back, maybe another Saint wouldn't have been a great idea because no other Saint would have filled Liberty's paw prints!!
Still haven't been able to windex her nose art off of the front door yet.
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What a sweet little face!
Housebreaking. ...I'm with you on this one. I thought if I had to clean up pee and poop off of my livingroom floor one more time!!!! I was seriously so frustrated it was affecting how I felt about Finn, and my husband (he was the one who wanted to get another dog, I was the one who got stuck taking care of it) I can deal with almost anything, but housebreaking nearly did me in. And then one day he just got it. I posted here on that day. I went to bed with a pain in the arse puppy and woke up to a dog. He did terribly, but he was paying attention apparently cause one day he just went to the door and asked to be let out. Now it hasn't been perfect (he's 7.5 months) but it's been weeks since we've had an accident. Even when we leave him home alone. He licks my hand or face in the morning to wake me up when he has to go. How wonderful to wake up to that! We didn't crate or confine him. I just watched him all the time and put him out on a schedule. He sleeps in our bedroom and never had an accident in there.
So keep your chin up, and keep a bucket of Mr. Clean and murphy's soap handy at all times! It will be over before you know it!
(But if you know of a way to keep him out of the trash I'd love to hear it!!!)
Vicki
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You baby is just adorable. She has a very cute face.
So sorry to hear about Liberty. I love that name.
Judge was trained in about 2 weeks. He was never crate trained as I was heart broken when he cried in his crate so we gave that up after 1 night. We just praised him and put him out often. I didnt have much of a real routine. I just left the door open most days . If thats an option for you. It is pretty frustrating but like kids, its all over in a blink of an eye and you'll miss those little puppy days. It will all work out in the end and you will get lots of support from your friends here on BPO.
Good luck!!!
Coonie
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CUTE PUP!!! Kinda looks like a Leonberger, but we'll have to wait and see how she looks at 1 year. Puppies are the best, accidents and all. It such a fleeting time, especially with big dogs, they grow so fast and lose their puppy breath and puppy goofiness.
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We did the same as everyone else with Chester. I didn't even buy a crate. I just watched him all the time and kept him confined to the room I was in. He's 19 weeks and hasn't had an accident in a month. Also left the doors open for him 24/7 and he follows Cowboy most of the time. If Cowboy pees, Chester pees. SO cute!!
Your baby is ADORABLE. It's the best thing in the world for a whole in the heart....plug it with a puppy! We lost Otis and Lucille last year and Cowboy, too, has idiopathic epilepsy! He's pretty drugged from all the meds, but we've only had one seizure (knocking wood here!) in 3 months!! I think he can't relax enough with Chester around to get a good seizure going!! Chester has made the entire family feel better and I know the pups at the bridge picked him out and are watching over all of us! I also agree about changing the physcial apperance...Ot is, Lucille and Cowboy are/were all Landseers and Chester is a brown. He's definately his own guy!
Let us know how it's going! I'm sure he's get the hang of it quickly! These are very smart dogs!!
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What a gorgeous pup !!
I am still keeping my eye trained on Moose. It took about a week and a half of constantly taking him out all the time before he stopped automatically peeing inside. He was not housebroken at all when we got him. We're both doing very well with the housebreaking, he's figured out for the most part that I want him to pee outside and I have learned for the most part to make sure he goes after waking up/eating/drinking/playing etc etc. We've had the occasional accident and when that happens I say nothing but clean it up right away. Each and every time he pees outside , I praise him like crazy afterwards and he gets a real kick out of it, lol. his whole behind goes back and forth as he's wagging tail and behind ,lol.
I don't crate my dogs so I don't have experience with that as they sleep right beside us on their beds , and Moose likes to jump up on the bed and sleep in between his daddy and me as well :). Fwirly prefers to stay on her bed but when the alarm goes off she'll jump on the bed and lick daddy till he wakes up.
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Tina, your post just sent chills up my spine & all the way to my heart...How hard that msut have been for you!...Samson has promised me he is never going to die. :-\ :'(