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BPO Medical Forum => Medical Conditions & Diseases => : Fumble April 30, 2007, 06:24:53 AM
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hey all... i swear fumble is like the bubble boy! he's so sensitive to EVERYTHING... anyone have any clues why he's limping??? He seems to be favoring each of the back legs, alternating between the two of them. He jumps around and will run but then when he walks he or jogs he looks like he's limping. I feel soo bad for him!! i took him for a short walk today and it seemed to have made him in pain! i feel so bad.. i'm going back to the vet for the ears tomorrow afternoon, do you all think i should wait that long or should i callt he emergency vet this afternooNN??? i swear he's "that kid"!!! and i just love 'that kid' so much i want to make sure he's not in pain! he's not crying or anything... so it's so weirD! and it just popped up on saturday...
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oh poor Fumble! he needs some :-* kisses!!!!!!!
and please give us an update as soon as u know :)
Jodi,
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Poor guy:(
There are many reasons he could be limping anything from a pulled muscle to HD. Pain could also really be coming from his back and not his rear legs at all. Your best bet is to have the vet take a look. I think you are fine waiting until tomorrow just keep him calm and inactive until then.
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Awww poor boy! It could be just pulled muscles if he was playing hard the day before. I would talk to your vet when you take him in for his ears. Get well soon Fumble!
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sooooo... i inspected his feet before i left for the office during my lunch break... it looks like the pads of both his back paws are a little raw, pinkish looking! that could by why he's limping??? doesn't like the cement or it hurts, i mean even the beach could hurt because of the random shells and rocks around! i'll try either some bag balm on the pads and this other stuff i have for dry or cracked pads.. but i'll definately ask the vet tomorrow... silly dog probably chews the pads when we're at work! too bad he acutally likes the bitter apple stuff!!
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Ahhhh that could be it! His paws just may be a bit sore so he doesn't want to put much weight on them, makes sense to me! If he was playing/running on a rough surface like concrete he could have scuffed them up if he suddenly stopped.
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yeah that could be it! Sweetpea is limping too, but hers is because she thinks shes a flying squirrel. We bought a BIG crate for Atlas, from dog.com (great deal and its an awesome crate, huge too) and she decided it would be fun to jump off it. Thats like us jumping off the top of a house!! So shes limping on her front leg only a little, not swollen or anything, i think she bruised some soft tissue. Shes on bed rest for the rest of the day. If its bad tomorrow she will comr to work with me! She too is "that kid" only she does it to herself! LOL
Poor fumble, maybe he and sweetpea should have a bubble boy and girl play date! :D
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awwwwwww poor Fumble! Auntie Rachel sends tons of smocches. Feel better big guy!
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The pads could definitly be the problem. We all know he's got his allergies another outlet besides the ears is the paws. Lacey chews on her pads during allergy season. Let us all know what the vet thinks. When he's feeling better we all need to get together again.
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is it a sudden lameness?
When Lady would start limping and it persisted it was time for an ACL operation. it's easy to tell if the sudden lameness isn't getting any better.
that's the worst case scenerio though. definately ask the vet what he thinks...if there's dorr motion in the knees. i doubt it would happen in both knees right away though.
so until you hear from the vet think good thoughts and let us know asap!
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Poor Fumble! :-\ Feel better, big guy!
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ooh geez... thanks all for your well wishes!! i hope it gets better whatever it is... i'm starting to get worried because it seems to only be getting worse... and he keeps going from left to right limping.. i'm hoping he didnt do anything to his back.. he still doesnt seem to be in much pain, he doens't whimper or anything. he was chewing on his foot earlier, it sounded like he was chewing on his nail, and when i went to look at it he kinda got into nasty mode, so i'm not sure if that was a sign that it's the paws... oh i don't know! i just feel so awful and i hope it's nothiing horrible! he's only a year and a half, so i don't see what could be awful! oh i hope it's not!
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don't think the worst ok? i'm sure he's fine. the paws being irritated sounds like a possibility.
you'll let us know tomorrow what the vet says?
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Oh Fumbs- not so much fun to have feet problems- Hopefully it is short lived- Please keep us updated on how he is doing - smoochies from the crowd here.
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thanks everyone!! i think last night i was just so nervous and anxiety stricken!! this morning he went outside with me and just laid down! silly boy! that's his sign that something's not right when he lays outside on the cold ground and refuses to get up! even tried to play hide and seek his favorite game!! just picture him and i outside at 530 am playing in the backyarD! haha!!
I'll let you all know as soon as we get home from the vet today!! thanks again!
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You guys are in my thoughts today. Get better Fumbs..
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fingers and paws are crossed that Fumble is okay and starts feeling better.
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thinking about y'all and the Fumblemeister. .. hope the big guy is doing better!
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Fumble - peek a boo I'm hiding can you find me??
How are you feeling after your vet appointment?
I hope you are on the road to recovery
Randy & Harley
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well.... needless to say tears were shed on the way home today (i'm a sorta emotional gal). the vet said it looks like it's his ACL's, and that he may be blown both of them this weekend. we are going back on friday so that i can drop him off (something i'm not happy about as a very nervous ninnY) so taht they can put him under to better look at the knees and take xrays.... i just feel so bad for him cause he seems so uncomfortable and just sad... and my fumble is never sad :( he gave me some anti-inflammatories to give him, so hopefully taht will help take some of the pain away... the vet thinks fumble is very stoic and even if he had pain he wouldn't show it... i think it just makes me love him more to know that he doesn't want us to know that he's in pain! so there's my update... i'll have to let you all know on friday afternoon how everything goes. i really just want to go pick him up during the morning, or my lunch break, but i guess i should just let him stay at the vet that way when i pick him up in the afternoon, i know i can be with him to keep a watchful eye and not have to go back to work... i'm just not sure how i'll be knowing he's not safe at home! :-\
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AW FUMBLE!
Poor kid! Good luck, we'll be thinking of you! Get better soon,ya big lug!
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Well hopefully the additional testing and x-rays will come up with more positive results. He's young and has so much spirit, he'll get through this like a champ.
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OHHHH!! Poor Fumble!!! Big hugs!!!
Do you give Fumble Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM supplement?
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yeah he's been taking chron/gluc since he was a little puppy... like started as soon as he good have solids, plus he takes vitamin c, a vet in CA believes that it helps with the joints, and my breeder believes in it, so i give him that stuff too... maybe i should up the dosage of the gluc/chron???
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Thats good is it the one with the MSM in it, How much do you give him and how much vitC is it EsterC? (maybe it might help to up it)
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I'm really sorry it's his ACL's ... and both at the same time. but it's really a very helpful surgory!!! and it's not as horrible to get through as it sounds. he'll be FINE!!! if you need me to talk to you about it let me know and i'll PM you my home number. :) been there with Lady. it was over before i knew it.
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Poor Fumble......bo th of them at the same time. Whata brave boy he is. Sending positive thoughts to you and Fumbs :-*
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Poor Fumble :-\ Zoey and I are crossing our fingers and paws for a speedy recovery.
If you do need to have surgery, I really recommend going to Tufts. I think they're the best around for major issues
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Oh my, we hope it is not the ACLs. No other symptoms? Any fever associated, like with Lymes? Seems strange that both would go. Why were the paws red? Just his gait? Cirra had an ACL partially torn last year in the snow banks. She had more trouble after Xray exam due to the force used in translating the joint under anesthesia. We could not bring ourselves to take her to NH for a TPLO at 13 months of age. She has been on conservative management for a year. So far so good!
Hoping your vet is experienced and knows that little force is needed to assess a truly torn ACL when the dog is under sedation. Are his knees swollen and/or hot?????? Have you checked with your breeder about the incidence of ACL tears in Fumbs breed lines? Really would echo the need for second opinion, perhaps a holistic vet about the paw redness?? Just floating some ideas because the ACL seems quickly assumed for most rear leg limping in the giant breeds. The TPLO is what they recommend for dogs over 100 pound with a stifle angle greater than 30 degrees. It is MAJOR surgery, not without some serious potential repurcussions. Having been down this road, we wish you the best on Friday and hope Fumbs comes through the Xrays without problems. Thinking of the big guy!!
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OH no! I am so sorry to hear that Bear's twin is in so much pain. I really hope that he is just having growing pains. :-* We're hoping and praying for the best. Please keep us informed on the latest.
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the vet said that on friday he will check him for lyme. we got the vaccine, but i'm pretty sure it doens't always deter it... he did have a partial fever, like 2 degrees higher than normal. but he didn't seem too worried... just that gait is effected... he seems like he's skipping on his legs, both of them beign affected.
the vet didn't say anything about the knees being swollen, when i felt them they didn't seem swollen at all, and he's not showing any signs of pain. I don't think there is any history of any knee problems in his family.
I hope it's not the acl either!! but i'll definatley let you guys know on friday when i get more info! there are like 6 vets that work at the one clinic, so i'm hoping t hat he would double check with another one before making a decision. One of the vets went to tufts university and he specializes in ortho soo.. hopefully!!
Oh my, we hope it is not the ACLs. No other symptoms? Any fever associated, like with Lymes? Seems strange that both would go. Why were the paws red? Just his gait? Cirra had an ACL partially torn last year in the snow banks. She had more trouble after Xray exam due to the force used in translating the joint under anesthesia. We could not bring ourselves to take her to NH for a TPLO at 13 months of age. She has been on conservative management for a year. So far so good!
Hoping your vet is experienced and knows that little force is needed to assess a truly torn ACL when the dog is under sedation. Are his knees swollen and/or hot?????? Have you checked with your breeder about the incidence of ACL tears in Fumbs breed lines? Really would echo the need for second opinion, perhaps a holistic vet about the paw redness?? Just floating some ideas because the ACL seems quickly assumed for most rear leg limping in the giant breeds. The TPLO is what they recommend for dogs over 100 pound with a stifle angle greater than 30 degrees. It is MAJOR surgery, not without some serious potential repurcussions. Having been down this road, we wish you the best on Friday and hope Fumbs comes through the Xrays without problems. Thinking of the big guy!!
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Thats good is it the one with the MSM in it, How much do you give him and how much vitC is it EsterC? (maybe it might help to up it)
the big guy takes 2000 mg of gluco and 1200 chondr plus 2000 mg of vitamin c, and a complex called megaCplus... plus he doesn't use stairs, except for the 2 short ones to get on and off the back deck! that's it!! stacy and i think he might have hurt them when we were running on the beach last weekend...
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Hi,
Poor guy, I hope it is just some strain on the muscles! Take it slow with the big fella and start him on swimming!! Best excercise for the ACL problems for both skin and fur people.
Winslow and I are wishing Fumbs a speedy recovery!!
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Awwww poor guy! I was just hoping his pads were hurting a bit! I'm still sending tons of positive healing vibes his way! ;D
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awwwww poor Fumbs! We are sending tons of healing vibes and positive energy... and LOTS of smooches! Feel better big guy!
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thanks everyone!! i'll send him your love! i took him for a ride to chatham with me to get out of the house, he saw the beach and cried a little!! that's a great idea about hte swimming, maybe this weekend if it's warm enough!! i'll just have to get a wet suit for that chilly atlantic ocean! lol!! it seems like time is going by so slow, so until friday it will seem like forevER!! hopefully i can get on tonight and reply to everyone else's posts! i feel like such a selfish little bpoer!!
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the big guy takes 2000 mg of gluco and 1200 chondr plus 2000 mg of vitamin c, and a complex called megaCplus quote]
Ok he's on a good dose of all of them ~ sorry I dont know what else to suggest!! But the swimming will really help!!
So I'm just gonna send lots of healing energy& Big Hugs to Fumble and His stressed mom :) and wish im luck on friday!!
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oh well this is a HUGE stinker... i just checked my insurance policy, i have VPI, and it says that it won't cover any ACL injuries within the first year of beginning the insurance... i started it in november, so i guess that means i don't qualify??? Lets just say our prayers that it's not an acl injury as previously thought!! argh!!
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oh well this is a HUGE stinker... i just checked my insurance policy, i have VPI, and it says that it won't cover any ACL injuries within the first year of beginning the insurance... i started it in november, so i guess that means i don't qualify??? Lets just say our prayers that it's not an acl injury as previously thought!! argh!!
that stinks!!! but that's how it sounds. too bad too...one ACL will cost you $1200.
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We keep thinking about Fumble. We are not vets - however his symptoms seem to indicate that something other than two ACL injuries could and should be explored first. The vets will say that the test will not cause an ACL injury however we believe that it can certainly make one worse. Very little force needs to be used on a sedated dogs joint to make an assessment. The test is not risk free. Fortunately, one of Cirra's mom's is an experienced physical therapist and had the knowledge to question the ACL surgery for Cirra. Again, Cirra was still growing and her level of impairment was not that bad. We are not saying that an ACL surgery is never needed just that it seems to be the "surgery of the day". If you go to a surgeon - they will recommend surgery - that is what they do. We were told Cirra would have arthritis and she does have some in that joint however she would have arthritis with the surgery. Only time will tell. There are a few surgeries that are available. If surgery is recommended we would suggest investigating all options and learning as much as possible before making a decison!!!!! It was implied to us that we were bad moms because we weren't going to subject Cirra to a high risk, $3,000 - $4,000 surgery, out of state, within a week. We know that we are not bad mom's!!! Obviously, every situation is different. We learned a lot from our experiences and have lots of information about conservative management, the ACL surgeries, rehab, etc. Let us know how thing go at the vet's on Friday. Love to Fumble!!!
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Hi Erin
Any news from the vet! I've been thinking about the big fella and just hope all the news is good news!!
Rich & Winslow
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We've been thinking about Fumble--I hope he's feeling better and that you got good news at the vet's. Sasha and Bella send some newfie kisses! :)
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we're definately hoping for the best for Fumble. hope to hear from you soon.
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well....
the fumbs tore both acl's on his right and left hind legs... he really is bubble boy!! the vet said that because of his size none of the 6 vets at the animal hospital will perform the surgery, i need a board certified surgeon. apparently there is one in buzzards bay, so i'm going to call tomorrow and get some more information. We are close to tufts and everything, but i read some info about them and their rehab and after surgery stuff seems a little bit kitchy, and i want to be around someone who's going to be able to deal with my "nervous ninnY" mom attitude! so maybe the vet tomorrow will be able to give me some more insight. The TPLO will hopefully help, stac and i have done some research on it today and it seems like it would be the best and most logical thing, cause hte poor guy is having some serious difficulty walking right now!!
I will give ya all a laugh though, the vet told me taht fumble is a light weighT!! took him NOTHING to knock him out... his procedure was scheduled at 1045, and i showed up at 445 to pick him up and the vet tech was like welll i just saw him and i he could barely sit up! i heard all of the staff calling him in the hallway, and when i went around the corner he had given up halfway and laid down on the ground! didn't even wag his tail to see me! too much work, ya know!?!! but.... as soon as we walked outside to get in stacy's car he had HAD to stop to pee and walk through the busheS!! there's fumble for ya! he planted himself in the porch for a while, and looked at the step to get into the house as though it was mt. everest, but eventually made it. then it took forever to go outside, so i'm hoping that he will be back to his hobbly self tomorrow and not a gimp, cause otherwise i will be nervous that the procedure made it worse! i will tell you though that i feel MUCH better knowing now what it is! i think it was the not knowing hta tmade it worse!
but i doooooo have to THANK ALL OF YOU!!!! you have all be soo wonderful and understanding and helpful! it really does help to get some info! even if anyone has any experience with the TPLO PM me and i will respond! i'm thriving for info right now!!! just gotta ge tthe big guy fixed!! thank heavens for my parents too they're going to help me pay for it and then i can pay them back!!! i'm soo lucky to have them, and all of you!!! thanks again!! fumble would send kisses if he could open his mouth and tongue wasn't just hanging there!! i'll keep everyone updated too!!
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so sorry to hear that he has to have surgery on two legs! poor boy! i'd be a momma's boy too if i was him!
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Poor Fumble! So sorry to hear that he has to have surgery on both legs. I hope he starts feeling better really soon. Lots of big hugs to both you and him plus get well wishes.
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look at it this way. he'll get it ALL over with at one time. Lady had one done then the other 6 months later. that was a pain.
he will be just fine. :) big hug to your boy!
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Poor baby Fumble! I am sorry that you and Stacey have to go through this too. I wish you all a safe & speedy recovery. At least we know your boy will still entertain you in everyday- lips flapping in the wind to and from the surgery & of course making you dote on him hand-n-foot with goodies. ;D
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Wishing you all the best of luck...Fumbs couldn't be in better hands. He is going to be even more spoiled rotten after all of this!!!! ;)
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Ohhhh poor Fumble!!!! (((Biggest Huggles)) and ((big Huggles)) to stressed momma as well!!! here's to a fast and speedy recovery!!
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We are sending love and kisses to Fumble!!! How is he this morning. We noticed that when ever we took Cirra to the vet regarding her partially torn ACL she was always worse after the vets cranked on her leg. Erin asked that anyone who has had experience with this surgery PM her. Could any one with expereience regarding ACL injuries also post to the board. This is a topic that we are very interested in. A couple of questions??? Did the vets observe Fumble's gait? It wasn't until we took Cirra to a holistic vet this Winter for an assessment that any vet ever looked at her gait and watched her move. We found this to be quite curious??? What did the vets say about Fumble's feet? What age was Fumble neutered? Cirra was spayed at 8 months and we believe that was a mistake and possibly a contributing factor. She grew very slowly and was a bit of a "wild child" so it may have just been an active dog injury. Yes, anesthesia in large breeds is an issue of major concern. It seems that Fumble is very sensitive and remind the vets to note that in his chart. As we remember Fumble has had some allergies in the past??? Has he been on many anti-inflammatory drugs? One complication to an ACL surgery of any type is a reaction to the hardware used so you may want to let the surgeon know about any allergies. There is a Conservative Management Yahoo Group that can provide some information regarding that approach. As I recall there is some good information in their links and files sections. There will be information on rehab there also. If possible you may want to talk with some canine rehab folks who can give you a better idea of what to expect following any surgery. We encourage you to ask questions!!! We also have to agree that it seems unusal to have two ACL tears occur at the same time. Good luck and keep us all posted.
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update: taking fumble to the emergency side of the vet today... the vet tech said that it wouldn't be until the 21st of may that we could get in to see the surgeon, and i don't want to wait that long!! definately not!! so she said i can call and we can bring him in... so i'm going to call this afternoon when the other tech comes on. i guess the surgeon is renound in the northeast, apparently people call from all over to see him, so that's a good sign! i definately will ask a bunch of questions, and stacy's going to be with me too so she makes up for where i do!
the vet did look at his gait, they had me take him outside to look at it and everything. feet are fine, they checked out, i think it was because they were wet that it was pink when i took him that day. i will aslo definately let them know about the allergies and the anetheisia (sp?) sensitivity! i'll post this PM to let you all know!! and rehab is a BIG thing for me! cause i want PT and pain management not just a pat on the back wheni pick him up. i'm also going to do some research on hydotherapy too. thanks again for all your info!!
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what GREAT luck! i'm so glad things are working out!
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Just reading about Fumble today, hope things are going ok. I saw a hydrotherapy clip with a Newfie on YouTube awhile ago...the dog seemed to be loving it!
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Just read all the updates and I'll make sure to keep Fumbs in my thoughts! I'm still sending tons of positive get well soon vibes his way! :)
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well... update number 2 for the day. i called the vet to make sure that it was okay that we came still and that they weren't too busy this afternoon, when the tech answered she said that the vet was actually upset that she told us we could come down on an emergency basis and that it woudl probably be better to wait till monday. I feel bad cause the she got in trouble for suggesting that we come today and just as an emergency visit. i was kinda uspet because i really DON'T want to have to wait till the 21st to see the surgeon, the poor guy can barely walk now as is. i think he could sense my nerves too, cause i went to lay down and stacy said he was all upset cause i disappeared. so i guess on monday the surgeon's asst. is going to call me and we can hopefully get an appt earlier, i mean come now how many dogs tear the acl's in both legs at the same time, it's not like he can really put the weight on the other leg. he didn't poop either for like 36 hours, and i think it's because it's so painful. hopefully they call on monday early and we can get in at a decent time. poor guy, we just feel so awful for him. you can just tell he's in pain now! :(
thanks again for everyone's well wishes.. fumble and we DEFINATELY appreciate them!!! we wish you were all here in person just to give a hug to!!!
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have aggravating! i hate it when people do that :(
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Just wondering how Fumble is today?
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oh he's doing okay... moseying along. he is still stiff and limping, but we're just trying to keep him on the low for the day... hopefully we'll get a call tomorrow from the surgeon! thanks for asking though!! :)
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AWwww I am so sorry to hear about Fumbles troubles. Poor guy ..to get 2 at once :'( We are keeping the big guy and his family in our thoughts. Hope he has a speedy recovery. :-*
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Oh, poor Fumble! I hope you have a speedy recovery! Hang in there.
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Did Fumble have partial tears or did he tear them both completely? Either way I know it hurts and wish him a quick and speedy recovery. Big hugs to both you and Stacy and big kisses to Fumble
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I hope that you are able to get something worked out with the surgeon tomorrow and that Fumble is feeling 100% soon!
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Did Fumble have partial tears or did he tear them both completely? Either way I know it hurts and wish him a quick and speedy recovery. Big hugs to both you and Stacy and big kisses to Fumble
both were completely torn... gotta lvoe fumble, he's not like other normal dogs!! hehe!
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thanks again everyone!!! i'll send all of your hugs and kisses to the big guy!! :) i'll let ya all know if i hear from the vet today too!!
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Did Fumble have partial tears or did he tear them both completely? Either way I know it hurts and wish him a quick and speedy recovery. Big hugs to both you and Stacy and big kisses to Fumble
both were completely torn... gotta lvoe fumble, he's not like other normal dogs!! hehe!
Ouch! Poor Fumble. :'( Give him hugs and kisses from me too. :-*
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Hi,
Ohh poor boy. If you need anything you know us East Coasters are hear for all 3 of you!!!
Call, write or post if you guys need anything!!
Winslow and Rich
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been thinking about you non-stop Fumbs... sending tons of healing vibes and hugs to you, your mom and Auntie!
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Hi,
Any news from the Surgeon? Did you get in Yesterday?
Rich
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Yep wondering about Fumble tooooo!!!!!
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Hey guys, its stacy!
Poor guy, Eiren heard from the vet on Monday and they wanted her to come down right away but her stinky boss wouldn't let her go, so the earliest appt she could get was thursday night.. Which I dont know is a good thing because he seems to be getting worse.. :( its gone from a limp to a full on hobble from one leg to the other. I just feel so bad for him because he wants to be able to jump around a run but he cant and if he tries Eiren and I are both on top of him telling him to sit. I swear after this is all done and hes recovered he is never going to sit down!! :)
Thank you guys for all your thoughts and prayers, I know it has meant the world to Eiren and that has helped her so much with coping with all of this! You guys are all great!!
Well make sure to let everyone know how it goes on Thursday night, hopefully they can get him in this weekend??..
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I know Fumble has allergies but don't remember to what so not sure if these suggestions will work for you. Can you give him a bone to chew on or a cow hoof? I know when I was trying to keep Kaila from running and jumping the only way was to give her something to chew on and it was still a nightmare. But bones and cow hooves were really the only things she would spend a long time on. Maybe a kong would work for Fumble. Hope that helps. Big hugs and good thoughts for all of you.
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We have been thinking a lot about Fumble!!! How is he doing? We feel as though we could write a book about ACL tears and treatment options. Of course not knowing all the details about Fumble's case can't give advice or make any recommendation about what to do regarding the surgery. We would encourage you to ask many questions and research all of the options so you can be as comfortable with your treatment decision as possible. Fumble is hurting which makes you vulnerable. ACL surgeries are not an emergency situation such as a car accident. Taking a day or two to think things over probably won't be harmful to Fumble. Swimming might be good to keep his muscle tone? Has his back been checked? A holistic vet who performs acupuncture or chiropractic may be able to offer another opinion. Not that a holistic vet can "fix" a torn ACL however neither can a surgeon. They stabilize the joint. The ligament does not grow back together. Arthritis will develop with surgery or without. Is Fumble on any medication? What is he eating? We have brought up some different ideas and/or possible suggestions from things we learned when going through this with Cirra. We are not saying don't have the surgery just make a well informed decision. Good luck at the vet this evening. It may help to write down any questions that you have since it is easy to forget them when in the vets office. Let us know what the vet has to say. Love to Fumble. Any one else have any ideas or comments?
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Tonight's the night for Fumble's surgory? I hope it all goes well. he'll be fine afterwards and he'll be grateful that he'll be able to recover and keep on going with his rowdy self soon. you'll see a big difference.
Lady was always so relieved after her ACL's. luckily we didn't have to have them both done at once. you are going to be in for some hard work for his recovery.
we'll be thinking about you and looking forward to updates on your boy.
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ooookkkkkkaaaa yyyy... so here's the update! took him to the vet today and we were supposed to fast, no water no food, which made me think.. hmm... surgery today??? No, no sugery today. but i will tell you that fumble is probably at his worst today. when we got out of the car to go into the vets, he laid down 4 times before we even got near the door. we saw the surgeon, great guy! and i had my list of questions, all of which he answered. he explained the sugery to me, the tplo, and what they would do and everything. i have to go back every 2 weeks after the staples are out and then we track his improvement. he definately tore the left knee, right i guess is partial, but has a high probability of tearing in the next 3 months, and that's the earliest he would do the other one. he said that he does an average of 8 knee sugeries each week, and that people come from all over. there was actually a dog there from the north shore (which is all the way above boston) and they drove all the way down to the south shore for emergency sugery (poor dogs screws popped out of his leg, now that's a botched up surgery i felt so bad for him!!!).... soooo that being said, fumble is going in tomorrow morning for surgery on his left acl, the tplo sugery. we won't be able to see him tomorrow, saturday we can go visit him and then he may or may not come home on sunday, it depends on how he's walking on the other leg. so if not then he'llcome home on monday. i've already taken tomorrow and monday off as personal days, cause i'm pretty sure i won't be able to get anything accomplished anyways. i'm going to be a basketcase without him for 3 days, but if it means he can walk again then we need to do it. he really honestly isn't even walking today, fell up the one step to get on the deck.
so tomorrow after i drop him off i'm going to get lots of throw rugs with the grips on the bottoms, plus wood to make ramps for t he deck and the porch. we've already jumping proofed the porch, and i'll put the AC in there when it gets warm enough... soo that's the update. i'm a nervous wreck, but i know it's for the best. he's in so much pain right now, something has to help, anything! thanks again for all of your well wishes everyone!! :) it not only means alot of me and stacy but to fumble too!!!
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Poor Fumbs. I will be thinking about you guys tomorrow- Smoochies and prayers from all of us here- keep us updated.
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We're thinking of you big love. I hope that everything goes well and that you get him home soon.
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ohhh lots of postive healing thoughts going out to Fumble!!!
and big hugs too!!! hope he's home real soon!!!
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Sounds like this surgeon is very experienced and that Fumble is in good hands!!! Hang in there and we'll be sending positive thoughts!
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Poor Fumble :-\
We're crossing our fingers and paws for him
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thank you soooo much everyone!! you all are so great! i'll keep you posted if the doctor calls me today, which i'm not sure if they will, but i'll ask when i drop him off this morning. he was so nice to let me bring him home last night! althoguh i'm a little nervous about having to leave him today, but i just keep telling myself that he'll feel better afterwardS!!
i did take time off today and monday, so that means i'll be home to comment for everyone else!!! i feel like i've been so fumble consumed i haven't been able to post on anyone else!! i promise i'll make up for it! ;) thank you again!!
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thank you soooo much everyone!! you all are so great! i'll keep you posted if the doctor calls me today, which i'm not sure if they will, but i'll ask when i drop him off this morning. he was so nice to let me bring him home last night! althoguh i'm a little nervous about having to leave him today, but i just keep telling myself that he'll feel better afterwardS!!
i did take time off today and monday, so that means i'll be home to comment for everyone else!!! i feel like i've been so fumble consumed i haven't been able to post on anyone else!! i promise i'll make up for it! ;) thank you again!!
He will feel better afterwards!!!! Trust me.
if you wanna talk about it or need to talk about something...i've been there and would be more than happy to call you.
Good LUck Pupper!!! we love you!!!
Lin
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Sorry to hear about poor Fumble. Hope that he feels better soon. :(
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We're thinking about you fumble, I hope his healing goes well, I know he has a great loving support staff at home.
We got a couple of new kongs and stuff for Bava for after his surgery to keep him occupied as he recovered.
I hope he doesn't hurt too much today and is able to just get some rest.
Brandon, Melissa, Bava, Sophie & Mowglie
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awwwwwww Fumbs will feel so much better when all is said and done. Sending tons of hugs to y'all! Hang in there mom and auntie... and of course, you too Fumble!
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Hi,
Thoughts and well wishes go out to you, Stacy and Fumble. I know it seems hard now but surgery is the best solution, you guys put the time effort and love into getting Fumble the best cars out there, so those efforts will be rewarded with that smiley face and wobbly cheeks of a happy healthy Fumble very soon!!!
Rich & Winslow
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Get better soon Fumble! :)
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Take care Fumble....and you take it easy at home, Stacey and Erin. Things have a way of working out, and Fumble will be back on his newfy feet soon with no pain. Sounds like you have a top notch surgeon, that is great. :)
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We'll be keeping our fingers crossed for him. I hope the big lug recovers quickly! Kali sends slobbers to all of you. Call us if you need anything.
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Take care Fumble!!! we love ya big guy!!! lots of positive thoughts !! and big hugs for stressed out momma :)
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I'm really hoping for a quick and comfortable recovery for Fumble and not too much worry for his mom & aunt.
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Hey guys its Stacy,
We went to go visit Fumble today, Poor Eiren is having a hard time with it all. He came out weebel wobbeling with the tech helping him with a body sling. The poor guy with his elizabeth collar on, i felt so bad for him. Hes so big and that thing is huge!! of course he just had some water and in Fumble style just shoved his whole head into it! so he was soaked, but that made me feel like he was more himself. He was so excited to see Eiren and I and just wanted us both within an eye shot, esp with the cone. He evenetually realized though that he wasnt going home, got upset and turned around, sat down, and looked away as to say "If you're not going to take me home, then just go!" Poor Eiren, i think her heart just sunk at that point.. We spent some more time with him and then headed out. He most likely will not come home until Monday but eiren has the day off so thats good. His leg looks okay, but im not sure what to look for. I know i am going to be a nervious ninny when he gets home, being so over protective!
Poor Eiren though she got in the car and started bawling, and has been so upset and sick to her stomach since. I told her not to worry though because if Fumble can be in his PoPo on You Mood he is definalty feeling better!!
We took a few pictures that I know Eiren will post of the big guy when she wakes up from her nap!
Thank you again everyone for all your support! And Gracie and anyone else that has had this surgery, any post op tips that would be helpful that worked for you I would really appreciate!!
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Thanks for the update. We have been thinking about all of you. We trust that the vet will have some post op instructions. You can let us know his recommendation s and we may have some helpful hints at that time. Love to Fumble!!!
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Ohhh, poor Fumble & Eiren. I hope that Fumble is resting comfortably now and that Eiren feels better after her nap. It's so awful being worried about our furbabies, and my stomach also acts up when I get really worried or upset, so I really feel for you all. I do think that it's a good sign though that he felt well enough to give you the popo on you treatment. That shows a bit of personality and that has to be a good sign just one day post op!
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Thanx Stacey for the update!!! big hugs to Fumble,Eiren & you!!! hope he comes home soon its sooo hard when our furbabies are unwell, sending lots of positive healing thoughts!!!
Hugs Cazzie
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Awwww we are sending lots of big recovery hugs to Fumble and his mommy :-* The good thing is he is acting like himself--even if he was being a lil stinker ;) Sending speedy recovery thoughts.
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Wow! I'm just getting caught up here! Poor Fumbs! I'm glad to hear that he came through the surgery alright, and can only imagine the sorrowful eyes in that cone (not to mention how it catches the drool....still have an old one of Barkley's around here somewhere...co mplete with dried drool) and then the poo-poo'ing of you both. He is such a character! Take good care of each other and give him a big slurp from the east coast of Canada for us all here.
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hey all... i do feel a little better after my nap. i'm sort of having mini anxiety attacks! i think it's just cause he's not home! but he will be before we know it! and it is a GREAT sign that he's back to his mr. personality ways! :) Here are some pictures from today. The last one is of him shunning me! lol!
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i'm glad he's better...he will be...it's for the best. he'll be fine with all your TLC
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:-* :-*OHHH there he is!!! he looks good and glad to hear hes getting back to his old self and shunning you LOL
Big hugs !!!
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no kidding there are lots of people all over the world waiting to hear. get the vet on the horn and tell them we need to know how Fumbs is doing.
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Monday is almost here!! Poor Fumbs, but I bet that he will be back to himself in no time. We are wishing him a speedy recovery.
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Oh Fumble, look at your skinny little leg lol :) Can't wait to see his welcome home pics. He looks back to his happy self already.
HA HA HA!!!! That is exactly what I was thinking. I'm glad he's doing okay and it's especially nice to see pictures of him. Feel better Fumble.
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Fumbles Home!!
Eiren called the vet this morning to see if we could go down and visit him and the tech said that he was on the discharge list for today and we could come get him!! Eiren had the biggest smile after that, I on the other hand was starting to get nervous! Needless to say we were there as soon as we could be waiting impatiently to see him.
The tech said that he is really not to be active at all for the first two weeks, which she said she didnt think was going to be a problem. She said he is one of the most lazy dogs shes ever seen. I guess he layed down outside this morning and just peed laying down (What a ham, but man he is a little stinky!)
His leg isn't too bad. The Tech said that its minimal swelling right now, but that might change and that his brusing is darker than they like so we have to keep an eye on that one. Other than that he is putting weight on it so they said hes doing good.
Eiren and I got him in the car, with eiren basically lifting his back up with a belly sling because we were so scared cuz he had to jump in the car then on the seat in the back. When we got home eiren carried the back half in the house as well. He is doing okay, weve got him secluded to the porch which is about a 8X10 room that is the only room thats carpeted and it gets nice and cool at night seeing as the windows are really lousy windows! Eiren even moved her TV onto the porch so that we can be in there with him as often as possible and then hes got some entertainment when no ones home! :)
He is starting to get a little fussy wanting to be in the house but its a no go because this way he is only walking around in the room when he feels necessary or hes doing a butt drag, where he kind of drags around the room?? (Such a BUM!)
The tech told us we didnt have to use the E-collar when we were with him, but hes already tested that water and pretty much needs it on all the time. hes a bitter and chewer!
Other than that hopefully we can get him out to pee at some point and then maybe he'll sleep, he hasn't yet since hes been home and that was around noon. Thanks again for all the prayers! We'll definalty take some pictures tonight or tomorrow and post :)
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Whheeww! I can't tell you how happy I am to hear that Fumble's doing better. I can only imagine what you are going through! It's weird! I feel like I have this little kindred connection with Fumbs....he's one of the reasons I feel in love with newfies!! So, needless to say, we are all sending you sighs of relief, positive thoughts, hearts, glitter, and jazz hands!!!
Hang in there!
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SOOOOO glad to hear Fumbles home!!!!! ;D sending lots of big hugs, & positive healing thoughts!!!! :-* :-*
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I am so happy to hear that Fumble is home. Now you guys can get some rest and not worry too much.
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OH FUMBLE! You big, beautiful, sweet, sweet, boy! What a nice present for your Momma on Mother's Day. TO HAVE YOU HOME!
Much LOVE is going out to you Big Guy. And to your Momma and Auntie. We are sending all our Love and wishes for the best of healing. You are in our thougts and Prayers daily.
Pyr Hugs and Love!
Rainbow, Whisper, & Jane
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Sending big hugs and kisses to Fumble for being such a brave boy. Glad to hear he is home. Wishing him a speedy recovery.
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I'm so glad to hear that Fumble's home. I'm sure that you'll all feel better now that he's at home where he feels the most comfortable and where you can check him as often as you want to. Please give him gentle hugs & kisses from all of us. :-*
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What a relief - Fumble is home with his mom and Auntie - the BEST place to heal and be pampered! :)
Sending lots of positive energy and healing vibes... and tons of hugs to y'all!
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Hi Ladies,
Gald to hear fumble is home!! Here is a collar you may want to look into.
http://www.handicappedpets.com/acc/nobite/index.htm
Also might have some other supplies to help during his recovery!!
Oh here are some ACL braces that might help too.
http://www.handicappedpets.com/k9brace/index.htm
Check with the surgeon first if you go for a brace. but being you are waiting a while for the other leg's surgery a splint might help take some strain off that bad ligament too.
Winslow and Rich
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thank you soo much for everyone's well wishes!!! i actually took today off because i was pretty sure that the vet wasn't going to let us take him home until today, so i'm just laying out on the porch with him! he's doing pretty good! sleeping right now. he gets up and walks around the porch okay, a little shaky on the hind legs though. it definatly will be interesting to see what happens with the other leg, being as it's about 75% torn, no completly though. i definately think he's happy to be home though! :) to go out we have to put a sling under his belly and hold on, just in case he trips or something. still no poops or anything, but the vet tech said if he doens't in like 4 days we should put some pumpkin in his food or metamucil, just to kick it out of him. but he's really only goign out 2-3 times a day right now.
the stitches look MUCH better today, a lot less red, i think it's cause hte bandage was just taken off right before we picked him up yesterday. still pretty bruised, but he's definately starting to look like himself again :) i'll post some pictures later for you all!!
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It nice to hear Mr. Fumble is feeling a little better! It's so nice that you got a chance to spend all day with him!
Send him a couple of slobbery kisses from us :-*
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Fumble is on the mend - that is the BEST news!
Send hugs to the big guy, mom, and auntie
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I'm so glad Fumble's home and on the mend. Thanks for the updates.
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here are some pictures of fumble relaxing today... he's been a big sleepy head
look at my leg
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my scars
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bruises, still a little dark... and my swollen ankle
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what, you lookin at me?
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me and my shaved bum
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i swear i'm not drugged up
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why am i so cold?? oh wait, no fur!
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silly sleeping position
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:::ssssnnnnoooorr reeee::
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why do you need to take a picture of me sleeping??
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cute picture i took with my cell phone...
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Ahhh, what a sweet, sweet boy! I hope that it feels much better soon! :-*
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Awww Fumble! you look gorgeous no matter what!! hopes thaat your leg heals real quick enjoy all the spoiling your getting!! Big hugs to you,your momma & auntie!!!!! :-* :-*
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Poor Fumbs, glad to hear he's finally home though and recovering ;) Poor guy, he looks so unimpressed!
Get well soon Fumble, Kate sends lots of slobbery kisses!!! :-* :-* :-*
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Awww Poor Fumble. I am really glad that you are home. You just rest easy for a little while and wrap momma and auntie around that big ole paw some more. They are gonna take great care of you. AJ says dont worry your hair will grow back, mom does that to me every year. And Morph sends you get well soon Slobbers and really diggin your little fur sock that you have got going on there.
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Awwwwwwwwwwww he's supermodel thin under all the fur!hehehhe! I am glad he's home and healing well, keep milking momma for all that you can! hehe!
Its Stacy: I know right!? No wonder he tore both legs! Those little legs are supporting that big body and all that weight! HEhEHHE
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Sending all of you extra hugs from Jersey! Extra, extra hugs to Fumbs from his Newfie pals too. I hope all of you are feeling much better with each day. So sorry you had to go through all of this rough stuff.
Anita & the 4 Newfies from NJ
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awwww Fumbs it is so good to see you! You are one sexy Newf with that bare rump! ;)
Feel better big guy!
xoxoxoxoxo
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what a tropper!! those eyes say to me...i know it hurts a little now but i'll feel better later.
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well... stinker that he is, he decided tonight to lift his leg to pee, the one that got surgery being the stable leg!! i swear, he's an idiot! i think i was just in shock! he definately limped a little after that, and i would think that would be expected after putting so much weight on it! hopefully he learned his lesson, mr. type a personality!
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I really hope that Fumble will feel better real soon!
All the best to Fumble from Meisi and me.
He looks like a great teddy bear!
In the pictures with the shaved leg, looks like at least they let him wear his natural sock :)
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Oh my goodness. He's so sad and sweet looking. Scars add character I think. Feel better fast Fumble. We're all pulling for you.
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OOOOOH fumbs is partially nekky!!!! "Fumble's too seksi for his fur" lol Silly boy! Get Better soon big guy!!!!
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Oh the poooor honey he looks so sad and out of it - but still very adorable.
Feel better Fumble.
Poor baby
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Fumble will be able to brag about his 'battle scars'. No one has to know it was his ACL. ;)
I'm so glad to know he's recovering well. Rosie hates to see Newfs in pain. You're in our thoughts.
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Just wondering how Fumble is doing today???
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aww thanks! he's doing well... still limping pretty bad, but i'm not too sure what to expect 6 days after the surgery, especailly with the other knee being hurt still.. i feel like i'm so disconnected though cause i've been basically living out on the porch with the big guy! my computer's broken, and stacy's only works wireless 30% of the time! otherwise i'm sure i'd be on the computer much more! i'll be in the office tomorrow morning with i'm sure, nothing to do so i can catch up! hehe!
as far as the leg goes, great recovery from what it looks like. no more redness around the stitches, a little bruising on the ankle now and the back of the leg, but not nearly as bad as it was! like i said the limping is still there, and we're still doing hte butt scootch if we don't want to get up! but he's definately getting back to his antics. he's pooping now! which is a big yah!!! :) and we're no longer sitting to pee, full fledged stand at attention pees! his appetite is ehh, but that's fumble for you. he's still on the anti-inflammatory and the antibiotics. i did find a quarter size icky scab on his right leg today, so i cleaned it up and put some homeopathic neosporin stuff on it, but i figure he's on so many antibiotics right now it will kill anything! i'm not sure when he did it! i think it must have been from before, cause he's had the cone on when we're not around! i swear, he really is bubble boy! hehe! he tried to trick me to go out this morning, so you know he's back to his antics. and this afternoon when i let him out by myself he laid down after pooping, i thought he just needed a time out... but ohhh we laid there for a solid 10-15 minutes! i think he's just getting bored of the porch! hopefully after next thursday's visit we can let him into the rest of the house! but i think he's looking better. i just can't tell if his walking's getting any better... but that's why i've got stacy! second set of eyes! :)
thanks again!! i'll take some pictures tomorrow of his leg without the redness! it's like night and day from the pictures i posted on monday!
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YEA FUMBLE!!! ;D You big handsome boy you! Good to hear you're doing well. I = like everyone = keep checking in on the 'Fumble Family' to see his progress. We're sending many HUGS!!!
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hey all! we get to go get the sutures out today! :) yah for that!! or at least htat's what i hope! on sunday i noticed that there was a little clump of brown stuff and i thought it looked like food, but you can never be too sure. so i called the vet and they said to do warm compresses. well i did that and there was a brown/yellow residue on the cloth, so i called back and got an appointment for monday. well monday morning it looked fine! and i even noticed there was a little bit of fur that was in the same contortion that fumble's furry drool looks like, so i assummed that it was jsut drool and cookie. so i actually called and cancelled that appt. and the vet called in more ceph to our vet up here on cape and i picked up some extra antibiotics till we went today. well i looked last night and it was back again, but this time more crusty and it looked like there was a little bit of puss in there. it's just the top two of the incision, very weird. so i did the warm compresses and again it looked much better this morning. but i hope they don't not take them out now because of the infection, i guess we'll just have to wait and see. he hasn't been at it cause he's had the collar on, so who knows, maybe it got irritated from the drooly mess on sunday.
but in terms of walking, he's doing great! in the porch he's still favoring and tip toeing on the leg, but outside he's great! doesn't even waiver on either leG! which i think is great as compared to what was 2 weeks ago! so hopefully i'll have good news for you all this afternoon. i just keep saying my prayers that it's not his body rejecting the plate. i did some research though and it seems that when that happens there's usually swelling, and all we have is a little puss and pinkness! so we'll just keep our fingers crosseD!! :)
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Thanks for the update on Fumble. We have been thinking about him and hope that he gets a good report from the vet this afternoon. We are curious if the surgeon reccommends canine rehab following the surgery?
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Big hugs Fumble!!!!Thanx for the update
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I'm hoping that the sutures came out fine and that he's healing well!
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WEEEE'RE back from the vet and stichless! hehe!! the vet said that while the incision looks a little irritated, it doesn't look infected and there doesn't seem to be any swelling or anything inside! so taht's good!! he also said that he's walking great for 2 weeks out! so that's good! we can begin to take short walks, but he was funny and said "use your judgement, cause you have to remember you can't carry him home if he doens't want to walk anymore"... so we'll begin taht phase! i asked about hydrotherapy but he said with the tplo it's not a good idea beacuse when they swim dogs hyperextend their legs and that can cause infection and tendonitis in the joint, and we don't want that. i'm going to do some research on any types of physical therapy that i can do at home... but it's good to know that hte big guy is AOK for the day! :)
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Wow! Just wanted to say we're sending good thoughts for Fumble (and you). Sounds like he's doing great!!! :)
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So the Fumbs is doing better, have Eiren and Stacy begun recovering? or should I say destressing! Good to hear the good news.
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It's good to hear that Fumble is recovering so well. I hope everyone else is recovering as quickly from it too.
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Fumble,
i'm glad your feeling a little better - you poor bubbie!
I hope you get better and better everyday!!
Randy & Harley
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I can't believe I missed this! That's great news, I'm so glad he's healing and getting better every day!! GOOOOOO Fumble! ;D
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keep up the good work fumble! hope every thing is downhill from here on out!