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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Re: Small grayish spot on dog nose?
« on: May 07, 2007, 02:59:01 am »
So, I looked more carefully a number of times since originally posting this and it seems very circular and is the same texture as the rest of his nose...it's just a lighter color.

I think I'll take a photo and post is since it's rather hard to describe.....

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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Re: Hot Spots * NEW UPDATE*
« on: May 04, 2007, 03:08:29 am »
I'm a little late reading this, but it caught my attention as my dog Toby got a "spring hot spot" for the second year in a row. I think he has some allergies related to things growing in the spring and he licks a spot bald on his "forearm".

I don't have any good ideas, my vet gave me an anti-itch/anti-inflammatory spray and I couple that with blocking access to the area (Toby has been wearing a modified shirt for the past week - the neighbors are starting to question us), therefore breaking the habit.

Anyway, the real reason I wanted to chime in was that I noticed a post about garlic. I'm no doctor or vet, so take this for what it is, but I just completed my master's (on Monday) and as part of that prepared a paper on the toxicity of common "table scraps" to dogs for my environmental toxicology class. It was interesting research, although I really only scratched the surface. Here's what to consider re: garlic...

Onions and garlic contain sulfur compounds that hydrolyze into thiosoulfinate s when chewed then decompose into disulfides. The short version is that these cause anemia. While there are not many reported cases of garlic toxicosis, garlic contains more disulfides on a mass basis than onions - it is simply thought that dogs have less access to quantities of garlic than they may have to onion. This "onion/garlic toxicosis" can be lethal without treatment.

Symptioms include pale mucous membranes, rapid respiration and heart rate, lethargy, and onion odor on breath. Vomiting and diarrhea may also develop. There are certain dogs with genetic predisposition to being more sensitive to these compounds. But, currently reports indicate that signs of toxicosis may be evident in dogs fed onions weighing more than 0.5% of their body weight. There's no dose related data (that I could find) relating to garlic, again because it is less often reported.

So, for a 60 lb dog, 5 oz of onion could be an issue (60 lb x 16 oz/lb x 0.005 = 4.8 oz). I don't know how much a clove of garlic weighs, but the reports I read suggest it would take even less garlic.

So, like I said, I'm not a vet or an MD. Just an engineer who wanted to research something interesting for my last scholarly project ever! I think dogs are much more interesting than most engineering subjects, right??? :)

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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Re: Small grayish spot on dog nose?
« on: May 03, 2007, 07:41:02 am »
:) Yep, "bluskygirl" and I work together!

Anyway, it's flat - when you rub a finger over it you can't feel it. He's had scratches on his nose before, none of which scarred or left this color behind. And I guess I would expect a scar not to be a perfect circle...

I hope I can use the same shape logic on cancer, as well...

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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Small grayish spot on dog nose?
« on: May 03, 2007, 07:27:56 am »
Hello All,
This is my first post here and I'm hoping for suggestions regarding a spot on my dog's nose.

About me and my boys: I have two big fluffy mutts named Keto and Toby (in the photo Keto is reddish and Toby is black and white).

Anyway, Keto is 4 and has always had a black nose. He seems to be a shepherd/chow type of mix (his coat and puppy pics look a lot like long haired GSD photos I've seen). About 6 weeks ago I noticed a grayish spot on his nose. It is small, maybe a bit bigger than the head of a pin? The first time I saw it I thought it was a blister - the color has that quality when on a black-nosed dog. It looks like a perfect circle.

Keto had an annual vet checkup scheduled not long after I noticed it, so I asked the vet what she thought and she responded she had never seen anything like it before and had no idea. They took a photo so we could monitor it for changes in size/shape. I need to do the same for my own records (the photo I've attached doesn't show it - it's just for fun :) ). It is still there and seems to look the same to me.

Anyone have any ideas what this might be? Googling didn't provide much as keywords including spot on dog nose brings a lot of hits involving dogs named spot and the typical pink/black pigmentation and associated changes.

Thanks in advance for any ideas!!
Allie

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