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Breeding Questions & Information / Re: Backyard Breeders
« on: August 04, 2006, 05:16:18 am »
I am glad this thread has been started as it has answered a lot of questions for me.
So is someone advertising in the local paper most always a BYB? Do legit breeders ever advertise there? How do you find someone who is not a byb?
And really what is a going rate for a purebred dog from a reliable breeder? I ahve seen Great Danes and Saints in my paper for $500. I have also seen Great Pyrenees for $250. Aren't the better breeders going to charge more?


I am making a generalization here because there are always some exceptions to the rules. 

The best way to find a breeder is to start with the national breed club of the type of dog that interests you.  Quality breeders want to insure that there pups are going to great homes and will make the prospective owner jump through hoops and answer every question under the sun before they commit to handing over a dog.  Better breeders usually charge much more because of the testing, showing, etc.  How much you will pay can also depend on the breed of dog sometimes, the pedigree of the pup, and whether you are getting pet or show quality. 

Make sure you are proactive when looking for a puppy. Here is a link to a list of questions to ask the breeder:

http://www.bigpawsonly.com/index.php/topic,10040.0.html

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Old English Mastiff Discussions / Re: What to feed a puppy?
« on: August 04, 2006, 03:50:05 am »
Your Lucah is just adorable.  :)

I too am against feeding any type of puppy food.  With Nola, we kept the protien between 20-24% and fat between 12-15% to control growth, and made sure of high quality ingredients for proper nutritional absorption.  Slow growth is the key - it may not seem like slow growth when they are gaining 5 pounds a week. 

Here's the 2006 list from the Whole Dog Journal. These are highest quality foods. Most of these are not carried at large chain stores (you don't want those brands anyway) but you can usually find them at small pet stores, feed and grain stores, etc.

Artemis: www.artemispet food.com
Azmira: www.azmira.com
Back to Basics: www.beowulfs.c om
Bench & Field Holistic Natural Canine: www.benchandfi eld.com
Blue Buffalo: www.bluebuff.c om
Burns: www.bpn4u.com
by Nature BrightLife: www.bynaturepe tfoods.com
California Natural: www.naturapet. com
Canidae: www.canidae.co m
Canine Caviar: www.caninecavi ar.com
Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul: www.chickensou pforthepetlove rssoul.com
Cloud Star Kibble: www.cloudstar. com
Drs. Foster & Smith: www.drsfosters mith.com
Eagle Pack Holistic Select: www.eaglepack. com
Evolve: www.evolvepet. com
Firstmate Dog Food: www.firstmate. com
Flint River Ranch: www.flintriver-pet-food.com
Foundations: www.petcurean. com
Fromm Four Star Nutritionals: www.frommfamil yfoods.com
Go! Natural: www.petcurean. com
Hund-N-Flocken: www.solidgoldh ealth.com
Innova: www.naturapet. com
Innova Evo: www.naturapet. com
Karma Organic: www.karmaorgan ic.com
Lick Your Chops: www.healthypet foodsinc.com
Lifespan: www.petguard.c om
Limited Diets: www.royalcanin .us
Merrick Pet Foods: www.merrickpet care.com
Mmillennia: www.solidgoldh ealth.com
Natural Balance Ultra Premium: www.naturalbal anceinc.com
Natural Choice Ultra: www.nutroprodu cts.com
Newman's Own Organics: www.newmansown organics.com
NutriSource: www.nutrisourc edogfood.com
Organix: www.castorpoll uxpet.com
Performatrin Ultra: www.performatr inultra.com
PHD Viand: www.phdproduct s.com
Pinnacle: www.breeders-choice.com
Prairie: www.naturesvar iety.com
Premium Edge: www.premiumedg epetfood.com
Prime Life: www.ompetprodu cts.com
Royal Canin Natural Blend: www.royalcanin .us
Timberwolf Organics: timberwolforga nics.com
VeRUS: www.veruspetfo ods.com
Wellness: www.oldmotherh ubbard.com
Wellness Simple Food Solutions: www.oldmotherh ubbard.com
Wenawe: www.wenawe.com .uy
Wysong: www.wysong.net
Zinpro: www.lincolnbio tech.com

Good luck with Lucah and please post more pictures.

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Breeding Questions & Information / Re: Backyard Breeders
« on: August 04, 2006, 03:34:31 am »

The CKC isn't any better than the AKC. I see BYB ads all the time for CKC registered pups. :(

There are two different CKCs.  The first is the Canadian Kennel Club which is much like the AKC - long history of registering dogs and totally legit.   

When a Miller or BYB lists CKC it is usually in reference to the Continental Kennel Club.  The Continental Kennel Club will, from what I have heard and read, register anything with fur and 4 legs. 

I just was looking at the ContKC site and came across the breed below. What The h*ll???  Why would anyone breed a Peke and a French Bulldog then call it an "american" herding dog??? 

American Bullnese
   
Height: 6-12 Inches
Group: Herding
Weight: 12 - 25 Pounds
Coat: Thick, Soft, Dense, And Short
Color: Any Color Is Acceptable
 
   
Description: Head: Massive and square. Eyes: Oval, large, set wide apart and hazel or amber in color. Ears: Small, dropping back and never cropped. Muzzle: Wide and well tapered. Nose: Black and self-colored according to coat. Bite: Undershot. Neck: Muscular, powerful, and slightly arched. Chest: Deep and broad, with well-sprung ribs. Body: Back straight, short and sloping. Legs: Forelegs are short, powerful, muscular and slightly bowed. Hind legs are strongly muscled and have hocks well bent. Feet: Strong, with toes well arched and close together. Tail: Strong at base, slightly curled, covered with short hair and not reaching below hocks. Movement: Strong and driving, yet very agile. Temperament: Gentle with good pet qualities.

*The American Bullnese was developed by Bobby Rice of Florida involving the French Bulldog and Pekingese.

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Welcome.  I am Eileen the provider to NOLA, our 17 month old male mastiff.  We have finally gotten over our sleep deprivation... once he stopped needing to potty at night, he was able to jump in bed with us and wake us at 3 am for a snuggle.  Good luck with the pup.  Where are the pictures? 

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Introduce Yourself to the Forum / Re: Hi I'm new here...
« on: August 01, 2006, 09:47:44 am »
Welcome.  Brody has such a delightful face.  I am Eileen and I have NOLA, 17 month old male mastiff beastie. 

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Welcome.  I love you boxer.  She is just too cute.  We were considering one then decided we needed something a little more akin to a beanbag with legs.  I am Eileen and my non-action dog is named NOLA, a 17 month old male mastiff.

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Molly, Kudos on starting your research now.  I spent about two year researching mastiffs before purchasing one last May.  The internet is a great tool.  When you locate some breeders, they all love to talk about their dogs, their breed and dogs in general.  Good luck, Molly.

Molly and Nicole, I saw the word "cheap" linked with giant breed and went into soapbox mode.  I hope I didn't come off too preachy!


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My position is that buying a "cheap" puppy may cost you a much more in the long run.  Please stay away from BYB and pet store pups.  Giant breeds have a number of hereditary problems and can sometimes temperment problems (shyness, aggression).  Look for breeders who show their dogs (conformation) and test (PRA, OFA, etc.) both the sire and dame. When both sire and dam are certified clear of hip dysplasia the pups are statistically less likely to develop hip dysplasia although some of the pups may develop hip dysplasia. A knowledgable breeder is worth their weight in gold, or should I say gasoline! 

A good place to start might be the http://www.neapolitan.org/

Good luck in your search.  I have met a couple Neos and they are delightful.

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Newfoundland Discussions / Re: Chester is a TRUE Newf!
« on: July 24, 2006, 01:18:47 pm »
Great Story.  Chester is quite the hero while Cowboy has management written all over him.  Maybe he's Chester's agent and expects 10% of any treat dispensed tonight.

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She is such a doll.  You need to take a picture every 10 minutes because they grow so quickly.

I understand Lola's hatred of color.  Nola hated orange and proved it by destroying our two orange chairs.  They needed to be reupholstered anyway.

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Collars, crates, & other cool things / Big Paws Merchandise
« on: July 20, 2006, 02:00:59 pm »
http://www.cafepress.com/bigdogsporch

I had to share this site of big dog merchandise with all of you.  The mastiff stuff made me smile but the Newfoundland in the Whistler Mother painting almost made me wet my pants. 

The only thing they are missing are slippers.  I think I should send them a suggestion.

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Bhender254, I'm in Chicago and can send you some information on a supplier out of Michigan who delivers MI, IN, IL and WI.

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Happy Birthday, Fumble.  He is just the cutest 1 year old. 

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Poor little guy.  I love how a regular doggie bed just wasn't good enough for Badger and only the best twin bed would do!  As everyone else stated, you are not a drama queen, you are Badgers mom.

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I love talking raw!  Cleaner ears and smaller poops are just the beginning.  Can you say no doggie breath?!?!  Nola has the cleanest smelling breath, I kid you not.

We get our meats from the ethnic stores.  They have things like beef heart, lamb necks, pork necks, goat, etc. that I cannot find in the national/regional chain grocery stores.  I do notice that their meats and organs seem to turn funky a bit quicker but, unless the meat becomes rotten, I feed it all to Nola.   When it starts to smell off, I feed him on the porch  :D 

If you are looking for information on a BARF supplier, check Yahoo groups and search BARF.  They have regional BARF groups that will help you locate suppliers of ground meat, veggie & bone.  That was how I found our supplier of skinky green tripe.

If you are looking for prey model supplier, check these Yahoo groups:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/ and
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CarnivoreFeed-Supplier/

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