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: Dogless Blues
: galxe October 13, 2006, 08:15:29 AM
 So, hubby and I have been trying to bring home a furbaby for several months now, but to no avail due to...

*flaky people who decide at the last minute that they don't really want to get rid of the dog, even though they don't take care of it now.. grrr. >:(

*animal shelters that get your hopes up by posting the dog of your dreams, only to find out that that particular dog has already been adopted, "but we have an agrresive chihuahua lookign for a good home if you're interested"  ::)

*rescue groups requiring a "securely fenced yard"... we live on a private road on 30 plus acres. we don't let our dog outside of the house without us, period, even if we have a fence, and most importantly, what good would a six foot fence be when the yard sits under 8 feet of snow for several months out of the year? My husband would be be home with the dog mos of the day (or out walkign the grounds with him), wehave the financial resources, time, and love to provde a great home... but that stupid non-fence gets in the way.  >:(

*living in CA, where most of the dogs in shelters are eenie meenies, and most of the big pawsin shelters are halfway across the country.  :-\

Ugh, after the 7th failed dog attempt yesterday, I'm ready to give up. Or atleast wait until I have the chance to go out to Missouri again.  :'( I know the right pupper is out there for us somewhere... but I am just getting so impatient!!!
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: newflvr October 13, 2006, 08:25:13 AM
I know that here in Southern Calif., the Newf Club is overwhelmed with Newf rescues.  Maybe you could get on the waiting list of some the breed rescue groups?

Nobody wanting a dog should go dogless!!! ;)
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: galxe October 13, 2006, 08:29:41 AM
I briefly spoke with a lady with newf rescue of northern CA who said that as a general rule they don't adopt to homes without fencing, so we've been afraid to apply and get another no. But, I guess it's always worth another shot
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: newflvr October 13, 2006, 08:52:07 AM
I know here in So. CA, they do home visits and really check the homes out individually.  Your situation sounds ideal, to me!  I would think, knowing a Newf, 30 acres is more than enough land to roam and a fence would probably be superfluous.  Cowoboy never strays more than six feet from the front door by himself.  Chester is another story, but he's a brown...suppos edly a different kettle of fish all together! ;D
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: galxe October 13, 2006, 08:56:30 AM
We even have a pond, a pool, and a creek  ;D Plus, we go out to the Lake (Echo, or Tahoe) on a weekly basis in the summer. 
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: Nicole October 13, 2006, 09:24:20 AM
This issue always perplexes me. On the one hand, shelters are over-full and animals are getting put down by the thousands every day. And on the other hand, people who really want and can provide for a dog are being turned down! AGH!

I hate that!
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: newflvr October 13, 2006, 09:25:50 AM
Wow!  Where are you located?  We go to Lake Almanor all the time!!
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: galxe October 13, 2006, 09:49:01 AM
We're in Twin Bridges off Highway 50 before Sierra at Tahoe. We're about 20 minutes east of South Lake Tahoe
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: galxe October 13, 2006, 09:51:48 AM
This issue always perplexes me. On the one hand, shelters are over-full and animals are getting put down by the thousands every day. And on the other hand, people who really want and can provide for a dog are being turned down! AGH!

I hate that!

We had another group tell us that they would nto adopt a dog to us because we have a (very dog-savvy) cat. Apparently cats and dogs should not live together ???
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: brandon October 13, 2006, 01:35:48 PM
We had another group tell us that they would nto adopt a dog to us because we have a (very dog-savvy) cat. Apparently cats and dogs should not live together ???


That is crazy! Our dog has a pet cat, that's his cat, she & he always seem to be around each other.  I've always had the both dogs & cat's and never had a problem.  Dogs when they are puppies do get on the cats nerves at times, but never any injuries or anything like that.
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: Luvmydanes October 14, 2006, 03:44:02 AM
I'm sorry to hear this. I hope you find the right puppy and soon. I kind of hate that about HS too. You find the dog of your dreams and for us, it was always an issue with our kids. If they are small and the dog is big, they won't let you take them home. It's kind of stupid. Not that the dog isn't or can't be trained to be around small kids, they just won't allow it period. But yet they have thousands of dogs that need homes. It's kind of bogus. Let us know if you do finally find something :D
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: Saint and Mal mom October 14, 2006, 04:16:20 AM
I'm sorry to hear about your problems. Feel free to pm or e-mail me if I can help you find a dog for you or anything. You know, the Big Paws train is always ready to spring into action to get a dog literally "half-way across the country" to the person wanting it!
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: bigdogs@5501 October 14, 2006, 07:54:07 AM
I am sure that we can help you find your dog-  just let us know what you are looking for and  am sure that one way or the other we can get him/her to you.Also keep in mind that Saint and Mal's Mom, she could probably help you as well. Good Luck and keep us posted and dont get discouraged.
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: galxe October 16, 2006, 10:58:06 AM
Thank you for all of your kind words :)I know that when we find our baby, we're going to be so thankful that we didn't end up with any of the others, but ti's hard to see that now.

We're especially fond of Newfies, but really just have a heart for big, big dogs. We need a dog that won't eat our cat, that won't have to wear a sweater during the winter (lots and lots of snow here!, and we love long haired dogs, though the hubby loves Danes as well), gets along with other dogs (we know we won't be able to stay a one dog famiyl forever, or even very long at all!), and doesn't have any people aggression issues (we work at a camp and so have strangers around frequently, though never unsupervised with our puppers). We have vet references, personal references, and would be more than willing to give a tour of the place, or send videos/pictures to those too far to visit.

We have a heart for special needs dogs, and senior puppers. We'd prefer an adult to a puppy. Separation anxiety? Bring it on. Needs some housebreakign practice? No problem. Little lacking in the obedience department? We can take it (heck, we work with troubled ttens most of the time! At least dogs don't do drugs or make out in the bushes!) Medical issues? We can take it in stride, as long as he or she has sufficient mobility to be able to take walks on rolling hills. (There's no such thing as flat space around here). We also need a dog that is, in general, dependable off leash.

I know it sounds like a huge list, but we're not that picky, I promise! We live in the Lake Tahoe/Sacramento area of CA and are willing to personally drive 8-10 hours to bring home our baby. So, if any of the eagle-eyed out there have anyone in mind, please let us know!
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: bluskygirl October 16, 2006, 01:28:34 PM
Hang in there!  I went through this same thing! I have two small boys (8 and 4), a fenced in patio- it does have a small grass area- BUT we live across the street from a huge open space park that my boys and I spend all our free time at (Why spend money to do something when you can go on a hike and see Owls, foxes, racoons, etc and have a blast for FREE?).  Anyway, I tried to adopt through the Saint Bernard rescue and they wouldn't accept me because of the boys and because they were worried about my small back yard.  I know they're trying to do the best thing for the dog, and they don't know whether I'm going to take that dog for walks, or train it to be safe around kids... so I understand, but it's frustrating when you KNOW you could provide a loving home for a dog that needs one and everything seems to stop you!  I finally got Bella, and things are good- so I know that it can happen for you too!

I will keep my eyes open for you too... Best of luck! Oh, and whoever said it earlier is right on- you DO have the perfect situation for a happy puppers. ;D ;D
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: Thelma October 17, 2006, 09:51:16 AM
don't give up.........the y just make your life so more complete.
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: galxe October 17, 2006, 10:14:36 AM
You guys can adopt me.  I weigh as much as a big paw and love open space.  ;)

You'll find the right one, I promise...

Julie

Only if you promise to drool, shed, and not eat my slippers! ;D
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: ZooCrew October 17, 2006, 01:31:45 PM
I know how you feel.  I had the same problem when looking at a particular dane rescue (the only in the area that had puppies, which is what I needed).  We had a fence on two sides of our yard when we moved in, and we finished putting up a 5 ft fence on the rest.  They denied us b/c the one side (that was there when we moved in) was only 4 ft.

I also raised the question on the purpose of a fence when you get snow which we would be around once we moved (and I told the rescue that).  Even an 8 ft fence would do no good if you get more than 4 ft of snow a year (which many places do).  Which is why I ended up going thru a breeder.  I was just too frustrated to continue looking at rescues.
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: galxe October 18, 2006, 05:34:44 AM
The hubby and I have considered putting up some sort of fence just to say "we have a fence", but I wouldn't even know where to put it! The terrain up here is so rugged and there are so many trees, etc that we wouldn't even know where to begin. Plus, four feet of snow is one thing, but the 8-10 that we sit under from December to March, we'd need an uber fence. And, they're even predicting more snow than normal this winter, so we'll be up close to 12-15 ish.
Hubby is cute though "we have a fence around the pool, doesn't that count?"
I really don't want to go through a breeder, I just have such a heart for rescue that it would kill me. I know there are so many dogs out there that need good homes, apparently just better homes than we can give- grumble gurmble. (It's morning, I'm allowed to be grumpy  ;)) Plus, I'd much rather have an adult than a puppy (I know, I'm weird) But I also know that if we're still dogless in 6 months, we'll have to go that route. (Hubbers is quite anxious to have a pupper to love and play with) But, we'll see. We're marching on.
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: newflvr October 18, 2006, 06:01:35 AM
Have you heard anything back from Newf rescue?
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: galxe October 18, 2006, 06:04:38 AM
I got an email from Cathy this morning, and sent an email to Laurie with rescue to see what we have to do to proceed. Grizzly is absolutely adorable- I just want to hug him through the computer! So, fingers crossed andhoping things will work out!

By the way, you are my hero  ;D
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: newflvr October 18, 2006, 07:02:50 AM
GREAT news!  Fingers and paws crossed that it will work out!  Please know that I'm available to transport!!  Will you keep us posted??
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: Kirsti October 18, 2006, 07:06:10 AM
Good luck, hope all works out well!

~K
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: galxe October 18, 2006, 07:38:19 AM
We will most certainly keep you posted. I think the only issue will be getting a home check- we're rather an awful distance to drive to, but I'm hoping hoping hoping that this works out. Thanks for the offer for transport, we migth just take you up on it, or maybe we'll just race down there and brign him home as soon as we possibly can!  ;D If we can, we're really hopeful but trying not to get excited, as we've been let down so many times before. Hubbs made me promise not to even think about names until he's sleeping on our couch..
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: aggghgmom October 18, 2006, 07:57:58 AM
I will keep all fingers, toes and paws crossed for you.  It sounds like you can give a pupper a wonderful forever home.
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: Skippy October 18, 2006, 08:03:51 AM
Hope you find a dog soon. The house is so empty with out them. A Newf is a good choice. We had Lady until she was eight. We lost her to cancer. She was about a year old when we got her from a breeder. She had been shown in puppy classes and was one of the owners family dogs. They knew her hips weren't going to certify so they gave her to me. She nver has any problem with them.

You are right. When we were looking for another dog this winter it was very discouraging. The applications ask more questions than if you wer adopting a skinkid.

Hang in there. It will happen when you are least expecting it.  Mine always have come that way until we got Lollie.

You have a great place for a pupper or two it sounds like.

Skippy
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: Saint and Mal mom October 18, 2006, 02:49:49 PM
Oh, I hope this dog works out for you! Are there any pictures? Is it a boy or girl? How old? Give us all the details!
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: galxe October 19, 2006, 04:29:42 AM
Haha, his name is Grizzly and he is a 3 1/2 year old brown Newf. Apparently he is very mellow, likes getting to meet new people, doesn't eat cats (Abby is thankful for that) and just an all-around amazing boy. He was purchased from a breeder/quasi puppy-miller in the Midwest for a family where the daughter had extreme asthma problems, and no amount of grooming could help. So, that's how he ended up in Rescue.

I have no idea how to post a picture on here, so no pictures yet. But just picture the most adorable Newf (other than all the BPOers, of course) you've ever seen with a big bone in his mouth.

We foudn out this morning that they are officially considering us, so we will have to fill out the application, newflvr will most likely do a home check, and, hopefully, we'll be new parents before too long!
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: newflvr October 19, 2006, 03:52:50 PM
It's official.  I get to do the home check!  It all sounds very positive, so far.  Hopefully Grizzly will have a forever home soon and Dogless Blues won't be dogless much longer!!
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: galxe October 20, 2006, 07:26:10 AM
Yeah, but I know that he's thinking of names too. This big fibber.

I actually kind fo like the name Grizzly, except that we live in an area with quite a few bears (blacks and browns) and I figure that calling out "Grizzly!" to a large brown creature in the forest at night might be a little frightening to some.  :o
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: galxe October 20, 2006, 09:51:53 AM
Home check is tomorrow! We're excited, guess it's time to hide the bomb making materials. (kidding)

Hopefulyl we'll be a fit home and on our way to a new baby!
Grizzly does sound like a perfect fit, so we're soo keeping fingers crossed.

I always end up with first anme choice, though he gets veto power. Generally we can agree pretty easily, but picking out a name is never easy. I have a few up my sleeve, but mum's the word until he's "sleeping on our couch"  : ;D
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: galxe October 20, 2006, 11:42:04 AM
Alright, I am such a sucker for things like this.

So my husband and I are installing new carpet upstairs this weekend. The color is dark brown (kind of like our almost-maybe new furbaby). And the color name? Grizzly. How's that for coincidence?! (I picked out the carpet more than a month ago)
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: Saint and Mal mom October 21, 2006, 07:56:15 AM
Oh, I hope everything goes okay for you! Let us know how it goes!
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: newflvr October 21, 2006, 05:44:38 PM
The visitation was awesome!  If there is a more heavenly place for a Newf I can't imagine it.  Kids, streams, people, hikes, ponds, snow!!!  How much more could a Newf need??  Chester was ready to settle in!  If my vote counts for anything, Grizzly is going to have his very own forever home.  Now it's up to the Newf Club to weigh in!!!
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: galxe October 23, 2006, 04:22:50 AM
Aww shucks. We're honored that you like us.  :)

The good news is that everythign went just fine with the home check... other than the attempted kidnapping of Cowboy and Chester (my darn pockets weren't big enough).

The bad news is that Grizzly went to the Newf picnic this weekend and he growled and barked at any of the other Newfs that got too close to him for too long. Now, he is fine with the foster mom's dog, and the neighbor's dog, but apparently not a big fan of other other Newfs. However, this is most likely a training issue, and as long as hubs is up for it, it won't change our minds, but still a bit of a bummer.
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: newflvr October 23, 2006, 05:18:46 AM
Wow!  I haven't heard from the foster mom so hadn't heard the latest.  It does seem strange though.  Some Newfs, if they haven't been around other dogs as big as they are, can be intimidated by someone their own size.  Then to be at the picnic where there are 20 or 30 Newfs....could be he was overwhelmed! 

That's all the more of a reason to have TWO!!!   ;)
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: galxe October 23, 2006, 05:59:24 AM
Well, good news! Hubs still wants him, growly boy attitude and all, so now just waiting to receive our application and hopefully our own fluffball!
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: galxe October 24, 2006, 12:24:10 PM
We sent in the app today (actually, we faxed it, because we're overly excited) So, keep those fingers crossed!

In other news, Grizzly got his CGC on Sunday!


And, Hubs, Mr. "Don't even think of names until he is sleeping on our couch" already picked out a name himself. The stinker.
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: newflvr October 24, 2006, 12:32:47 PM
YEA!! 

I got an email from Laurie saying she was waiting for your app. to "move forward with the adoption".  That sounds positive to me!!! ;D ;D ;D

And congrats to Griz on his CGC!!  That is significant!! 

What name is Grizzly going to be known by in his new life??  (the cheater!! ;))
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: Kirsti October 24, 2006, 12:45:10 PM
Oh! I'm so excited for you!!

~K
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: galxe October 24, 2006, 12:47:20 PM
Woohoo! That does sound positive!

We decided on the name Izzy- still close to Grizzly, but not the name of a bear. We're still workign on a middle name for when he's in trouble.  ;)

I just want to know that he's ours and that he gets to come home with us!
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: newflvr October 24, 2006, 01:52:10 PM
Believe or not, I'm as excited as you!!!  It's sort of like setting someone up on a blind date and waiting for SOMEBODY to 'pop the question!!!'

Izzy's a great name! He won't get in to trouble, though.  Look at Chester:  he jumped out of the car window when we were going to lunch....was he in trouble??  Okay, maybe with dh!!! The rest of us just laughed!!!
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: galxe October 25, 2006, 05:03:16 AM
Well, the application was more of a formality than anything else, and now we're trying to set up a time to meet. If they don't need both my husband and I to come down, it might just be this weekend. But if they need both of us, it will probably have to wait a few weeks or so. But, we are excited!!!


There's no way Chester should have been in trouble for jumping out the window! He was just proving his mom right when she said he could and would jump out! I hope you gave him an extra belly rub for provig dh wrong  ;)
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: newflvr October 25, 2006, 06:55:22 PM
I can't wait to hear what happens.  I'm not far from Cathy and Grizzly so if you want to meet up, just let me know.  Cowboy and I work Saturday mornings, but other than that, we're pretty free!!

I'm glad we've made it past all the stages so far!  Congrats!

And Chester's wild adventure has given dh the benefit of great story telling!  Anybody who has met Chester would understand!  Don't think he's quite ready for his CGC!!! ::)
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: galxe October 26, 2006, 04:30:35 AM
Well, there's good news, and there's really bad news.
The good news is that we're approved for Grizzly! Yay!

The bad news is that we can't take him. While finishign up th elast of the repairs in the house, we found a disaster. Wht we thought was a small, water damaged spot in the bathroom turned out to be hiding lots of significant water damge that has actually rotted through part of the floor. We also discovere dthat the bathroom is done in regular sheetrock, instead of greenboard, and is a breeding ground for mold (very wet conditions up here in snow season!) if it isn't replaced. So, the whole bathroom has to be re-rocked, and the floor has to be replaced. Not the flooring, the floor itself. Ugh. And, for the icing on the cake, the water damaged wall is a shared wall between the kitchen and bathroom, and so that wall in the kitchen needs to be redone as well. Even better, that's the wall with the cuonter, the sink, the cabinets, etc. So, we're looking at 3-4 weeks of major repairs, that will turn our house into a construction zone. We'll actually have to move out for awhile at some point.

So, everythign worked out on every end but ours. We're heartbroken, as we were soo so so excited for Grizzly. But, we also know that it wouldn't be fair to bring him home with us in the middle of this kind of craziness. It's just so frustrating. We had finally finished everythign that we wanted to do this season, thought we were done, and , No, it starts all over  :'(
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: newflvr October 26, 2006, 04:47:39 AM
Can't you get Grizzly later?  after the repairs are done? 

I'm so sad! :(
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: Kirsti October 26, 2006, 05:26:04 AM
Oh thats sad! I hope you can get Grizzly later... and I hope your house is okay

~K
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: galxe October 26, 2006, 05:43:33 AM
We could most certainly get him later. And the selfish side of me would really like to! But I also know that that's quite awhile to have him in foster care. He's already been there a month, and that's anothe rmonth added on. The selfish part of me hopes he doesn't find a home in that time, and gets to come home with us, but I know that if they find another home for him in the mean time, I just want what's best for him. Though, hubby and I are also going to do all that we can to speed this process up!

Our house will be fine, it's just very, very frustrating. Every small job turns into a large job because we keep finding that things weren't done right the first timne. The house was built in the 30s, and was meant to be the medical building for the camp. So, it was never meant to be a year-round, full-time occupied house. I just wish that for once, we could start a small project without finding somethign majorly wrong, yknow? Especially because we finally got everyhting else done and the last of our furniture moved in, and it was starting to feel like home. Now it's back to ground zero- sheetrock dust all over the house, walls missing, floors missing. It's just all very tiring. But, it will be for the better. We have to redo the bottom cabinets and the counter, so we're getting a dishwasher and new counters, and we discovered the ground floor has hardwood floors, so when we have the time and enegery in a year or so, we'll have some nice solid cherry floors. But, we're just so ready to be done working on the #%#%#%^ house. And we're ready to bring Grizzly home. But we can't. Ugh. I'm going to drown my whining in chocolate.
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: newflvr October 26, 2006, 06:31:30 AM
You are NOT whining....at least it's not unjustified whining!!  Remodeling is NEVER fun!!  We've done in several times and each time the contractor would come in with the bad news about previous remodels...ugh!!  Even at our tiny cabin...we are just in the process of putting on a new deck because the old one was 70 years old and in danger of collapsing...t hey found dry rot all around where the old deck was touching the cabin!!  AND the cabin was supported only by 2 x 4's with no concrete foundations!!  DOUBLE UGHH!!

Hopefully Grizzly will still be waiting for you when you are done...maybe you should just come down and visit him...just in case!!  If not, "Bernewfs" are due to be born at any minute and they will be ready to go after the first of the year.  Does anybody smell puppy breath!!!??
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: LittleGrace October 26, 2006, 06:45:54 AM
Grizzly sounds like the perfect fit for your family and I am sure it will all work out somehow for you. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you that everything will resolve itself quickly.

Sorry to hear about your house, that is tough =(  We have a nightmare slow remodel on ours because we are doing most everything ourselves... Thankfully although there was some water damage in the bathroom upstairs it didn't seep far into the walls or floors.

My family has a house up near the Y in South Lake Tahoe and we are planning on bringing Grace our OEM up with us when we come up to go skiing some weekends. Maybe we will see you sometime!
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: galxe October 26, 2006, 07:12:48 AM
Our friend is a GC and so with his help, we've done everythign ourselves so far. We might call someone in for the bathroom... we'll see. We'll get a better look at it all this weekend when we gut it.

I hoep they'll still let us have Grizzly. I won't be able t come this weekend because of the recent changes at the house, but, my husband will be in Anaheim next weekend and maybe he'll get to go for a visit  :)

Thanks for all of the encouragement guys! Right now we're just super-bummed, but we know that what doesn't kill su we'll make us stronger or yadda-yadda somethign like that.


The Y is very close to us! Definitely let us know when you're up! Hubs has a huge thing for OEMs, but he figures that getting such a short haired dog when we live in snow for almost 6 months out of the year would be a bad idea.