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Bills & Other Legislative Acts / Re: Breed restrictions!!!!!
« on: March 27, 2005, 09:52:08 pm »
AMEN Jabear!

That is what I was trying to say, but doing a terrible job of it.

BTW...your puppy pic is the cutest ever!

jusiw

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Bills & Other Legislative Acts / Re: Breed restrictions!!!!!
« on: March 27, 2005, 02:40:02 pm »
I can see that this is a list with people from other countries.  It is great to hear how others manage the problems, but I don't believe that Americans are going to sit still while their rights become amended.  NOT practical in the US.

Kudos to you Ann for being so responsible.  In a perfect world, to those of us that love dogs, no litters would be bred without health clearances like OFA, CERF and BAER testing.  In a perfect world, only proven adults with lovely temperaments would be bred.  This simply isn't a perfect world.  We have a client who is an AmStaff breeder, and he NEVER does a breeding with a bitch or a dog that has ever growled or snapped at an human being, and he tests them thoroughly.  We have euthanized several of his prized stock after a single incident of snapping at a person.  We can do ANYTHING with his dogs, all of them.

He is a very responsible breeder.  I don't think he makes much money doing it!  I always try to tell our clients that if you breed right, you aren't going to make money.  At least not much.

I don't breed dogs, all of the dogs in my pack currently are desexed.  The key to ending all this breed specific legislation is responsible ownership.  Period. It isn't the dogs fault, it is the owners fault.  The dogs are just being dogs.  Who can fault them for that?

CGC's and breed championships are not the answer, although they may be a part of the equation.  You already know my objection to the breed ring as a way to "earn" the right to breed.  CGC is definitly not infallable.  I know several dogs with CGCs that clearly are NOT good citizens and their owners can't trust them around other dogs or the wrong environment or just out on the worng day.  Even dogs have good days and bad days.  If the dog earns a CGC on a good day, but has more bad unpredictable days, does that mean that it is a truly nice, good dog and can be trusted to be an ambassador of it's breed? 

Sigh.  Wish it was an easier fix.

jusiw

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Bills & Other Legislative Acts / Re: Breed restrictions!!!!!
« on: March 23, 2005, 07:55:45 pm »
Ann said


People with pet dogs no matter what breed should be made to castrate or sterilize
And all this mixing dog breeds is wrong.
NO BACK YARD BREEDERS NO SALE OF PETS AT SOPS OR WHOLESALERS
people  with working dogs that kept as pets should be educated that those dogs are working dogs and should be kept busy
Remember having a pet is a  privalidge



Ann,

I agree that most dogs and cats should be spayed or neutered.  I am a vet tech, no one believes more fervently than I do that these new designer breeds are a bad idea.

My concern with your ideas is...how and who gets to decide if I breed or YOU breed???  Just because you have finished champions?  That doesn't cut it with MY breed, most folks with working border collies think that the conformance world is going to be the demise of the border collie as we know it.  They would say that conformation breeding is what should be made to stop. I just don't believe that there is any chance of developing a mechanism that can limit intact breeding animals in any practical manner that could be legally maintained.  (last time I checked, the US was still a free county) 

Who gets to decide?  I think working ability is more important.  My nieghbor might think that fitting the breed standard is more important. 

Our town, sadly, has breed restrictions on anything that remotely even LOOKS like a pit bull.  This of course includes all crosses, Am Staffs, it is pitiful, and we fought it hard.  It passed anyway, brought my bosses then 8 year old son to tears of frustration.  He just couldn't understand how so many people could be so WRONG.  Statute requires "pit bulls" to be muzzeled in town, no new pit bulls, all must be desexed, they have to be housed on concrete, heavy duty kennel with a top, registered with the city, and a $50,000 liability insurance policy.

We have seen a lot of very nice family pets lose their homes, even their lives to this ordinance.  While people still paint them all with one brush we will continue to see unfair attitudes and legislation.  Very sad, and in my opinion, very wrong.

and yet...I still think that someone who owns property should be able to decide if they don't wish to rent to people with pets at all, or to people with specific kinds of pets...once again, it comes down to personal rights.  They have a right to decide what kind of risks they are willing to take with their own property.

jusiw

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