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Great Pyrenees => Great Pyrenees Discussions => : mama23+pyrs2 March 20, 2007, 05:28:44 AM
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I wrote my breeder about this a couple weeks or so ago and still have yet to hear from her. For the first couple weeks of having my pups they got along great, played a lot but it was usually all very kind. Then they started to play fight and then it turned into really nasty fighting. They are crated together which doesn't seem to help matters but when they come out they do the same thing. I planned on crating them seperately at 4 mos..my breeders suggestion, and let me tell you I can't wait. It gets SO loud in here, between the barking and growling and yiping and you name it. It's very viscious sounding and as they grow, the louder it all becomes. I've never had 2 dogs before let alone 2 puppies (aside from when I was a child)so I don't know what to expect or when it should (hopefully) taper off. The male is dominant and pretty much gets whatever he wants but it doesn't stop the female from letting him know she's not happy about it. Are they still establishing a pecking order? They ALWAYS fight over every single bone or toy. Even if they have the same thing, just like kids. They refuse to eat or drink from seperate bowls so that is one thing they don't fight over.. sometimes I can't even see a reason for the fighting but it's almost constant now. I imagine when they are grown and out of the puppy stage this won't be such an issue.. but I just didn't know if it would better before then or not.
Also do I just let them work it out or do I ever intervene? I usually do not get in the middle, nor do I really care to..it's kinda scary. But sometimes when one is chewing it's toy quietly and the other one is just antagonizing him/her, I make them stop so as to avoid another spat.
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personally, i wouldn't crate them together. too much could happen. if it was me, i'd get two wire crate and just set them next to each other that way they're "together" but neither can get hurt and each has their own space. you may want to try the squirt bottle to get them to stop, that way you don't get your hands in the middle of them, but they will usually stop when you do that. are they getting a lot of exercise? our two dogs caine (pitbull) and diesel (great dane) are the same age, and we do obedience with them to help them focus themselves. we also do "rough house time" so they're super tired and don't cause a fuss. sorry i can't help you more, we got diesel when he was like 4 or 5 months old, so we skipped the whole two little puppy time, but i'm sure others will have some great ideas for you!
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Yeah they get excercise..I try to let them out in the yard with the kids when I can watch them because they dig. I let them out in the house for short periods in between crate time. But Yukon, bless his heart pees in the house constantly and without warning so it gets exhausting, Yiska is much better about it and has had only a couple accidents. Yukon will end up peeing every time he is in the house, despite me taking them out about every 20-30 mins. Sometimes he pees within 10 mins of going outside. He doesn't get anxious..no cues just walks along, squats and keeps going, drives me crazy. The time I have caught him, which have been many I scold him and out he goes and then I praise for going outside but it hasn't seemed to make any difference. Anyway that's another issue altogether but they seem to get plenty of excercise and lay around mostly.
We are planning to take them to obedience as well ..but I decided to wait a lil longer because of hearing this breed usually responds better when they are older. We tried taking them for a walk once but I ended up carrying them back because they just don't want to move on a leash most of the time.
I plan on getting another wire crate soon then. I think it will be good for them even if it's miserable in the beginning. ..you still can't take one out w/out the other one sounding like it's being beaten. :o
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I would socialize, socialize, socialize. Even if they don't listen at obediance, they are still getting interaction with other dogs, people, each other and you are establishing pecking order--they aren't, you are. :) Puppy kindergarten is worth it, IMO.
Get that spray bottle. ;) It works! With Charge and Chammie, I let them get snarly but I would immediately take away whatever it was that was causing the problem (typically, a bone). And then, I'd put them in a sit/stay (you might need a leash LOL) and remind them that I was in charge and that they could release when *I* said so. The snottiness only lasted a few days and then, it was over.
I'd start taking them on LONG walks, playing ball or other games in the yard but also at parks. Great pyrs are territorial by nature, so socialization is key. Plus, it's fun! Chammie is a nightmare in the house (extremely destructive) and, so far, the only thing that makes her less naughty is exhausting her. I take her on bike rides and she goes to doggy daycare every day...it's finally started working (after 6 months).
Also, when they potty outside do you make a huge, over the top, happy production? That's what I had to do with Chammie. She really struggled with it for a while, so every time we'd go outside, as soon as she finished going to the bathroom, I'd jump up and down, squeal, tell her that she was the smartest thing in the world, give her kisses, a treat and throw a ball. While it may have been humiliating for a while (hee!), it worked. Unfortunately, I didn't figure it out until the wood floor by the front door was already stained and warped. :'(
Your two are adorable. If I didn't know better, I'd want them but Chammie has taught me a great lesson about puppies...I'm a much better older doggy momma. :D
Julie
Okay, good advice. I will pick up a spray bottle, I think it's gonna get a lot of use lol. I have found a couple puppy kindergarten classes and had planned to start this week but my finances got a little stressed this month so I will have to review. :P They have met a lot of different people but only dogs at the vet so far..and I REALLY want to socialize them yes. They are just vaccinated enough to go to class but the one class I was going to go to, they aren't old enough for their Rabies which my vet says is a must. Yukon seems to already have issues with larger dogs, which I know Pyrs are known to have.. he seems to already have that big dog attitude. Small ones he does fine with so I wanted to be sure to get them around lots of different dogs.
I'd love to take them on walks but like I said, I haven't figured out how to get them to actually WALK lol, a common complaint I hear from other Pyr owners. I think it takes awhile and patience from what I've read. Taking them outside to potty is no easy feat, when they don't want to walk a step further, that's it. My daughter calls them cynder blocks lol.
Oh and yes I try to get real excited and lavish them with pets and kisses when they go..haven't got quite as excited as you but that's because they really don't seem to care what I do, they just look the other way, like yeah..what's wrong with her. lol
Thanks for all the advice so far!
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i agree with julie. we are the bosses (even our kids do obedience with them and they're 1 and 3) and then the only dog we let be "higher" is axle for the simple fact of with having 5 dogs, he is the only one who can handle being "second in command" (to people) and not abuse it. he very rarely punishes the other dogs, but in situations where i don't want to put my hands in he is very good at breaking up disputes that have gotten too rough. even if you don't go to obedience classes, you can still do some at home. this will really help you in the short and long run and it will help occupy their time also. one thing i have noticed though is with some dogs, having no "alone" time with their people can cause problems. i've seen dogs that spent years together and you couldn't separate them b/c they'd both flip out, some to the point of hurting themselves or destroying houses in attempts to get to the other dog(s). for this reason we make sure to walk single dogs or go to petsmart etc with only one dog to make sure they have that confidence should we ever need to bring ONLY one dog somewhere. as for the walks, just don't give them a choice. when you give in and just pick them up they're getting their way. we were told by our trainer to never take no for an answer. if you want or need it make them do it. if you just keep walking, after a few days they'll get the point. even if it's just a 20 ft walk down the street, you're still getting the point across.
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Ok, Pyr's owner here...oh, boy it does takes a lot of nerves to live with Great Pyrenees. Mine is 8 months and I just now starting to actually understand my dog and finding the correct approach.
First of all, we did have a very big issue with walks when I got Lily. I was pulling my hair out trying not to kill the dog. As soon as I put the leash on she would not walk. What I did is I was taking her to the park whih is nearby of different neighborhoods which she didn't know and let her go. She would stop of course...and I let the leash go (make sure it is safe around!!!). The pups are still insecure at this age and WILL follow you. ANd she did, time after time. It took long 2-3 weeks but the problem is solved. Almost...now she would stop to listen and to look around to make sure there are no predators...an d I let her...a couple of minutes later she start walking again.
Obedience is a MUST!!! Do not wait. The breed is very smart and puppies learn very fast. We started at 9 weeks and by the 19 weeks graduated with 1st place at the exam. They are very stubborn and require very strong leaders. Strong meaning not the power of force but mental stability. They are very sensitive to the voice so you don't even need to touch them...just sterdy voice correction is anough to get their attention.
Urinating in the house...put them on a schedule then you will know when they have to go (about 20 min later). If you can't watch them...crate them... and they will not make mistakes in there. Take them out right after they eat, sleep, and play. Give then a very special treat every time they go outside. AND, be strong!!! It's a lot of work!!! But in the end you will have truly wonderful companions! Good luck!
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Okay let's see.. well firstly they don't like to follow me even at this age, unless I get down to their level and call them over getting very excited but that only works until I stand back up and expect to walk further haha. I mean even going out to go potty this is the issue. They will have to go..but you have to pratically drag them over to the right area before they will go, otherwise, they'd be happy to trot back inside. They will ONLY poop along the perimeters of the fence so if you don't get them over there, you know they aren't going lol.
They definitely are very smart and catch on fast, it's just a matter of what they want to do ..I believe they know it but choose to not do it unless they want to. I started training basic manners from the time I picked them up and they are very good with most things, caught on very fast. They sit for everything, will wait patiently for treat until they are allowed to take it, will go to bed when told (well mostly haha, Yukon's better) and respond to 'leave it' and 'off' etc. Also have to sit while I open the door and tell them they can go, they are really very good.
The potty schedule, they do have one. They are crated when I can't watch them but if I have to run to get something for a child or something, it's happened that in those seconds I come back to a puddle and I know when I take them outside who it was, it's always Yukon..and he's the one I always catch doing it to. He does it right in front of me. They also go out anytime they come out of the crate, any time they whine, after they eat/drink etc.. and after about 20 mins of playing inside. They get a treat when they come in from a sucessful potty trip. They have learned to expect it so they come right in and sit and wait for me to get their treat. ;)
I thought I had a lot of patience before but they are really testing it yet lol. I knew to expect this though having done a ton of research on anything I could read before I got them, good thing or I'd go nuts I'm sure. I now need help to take them to the vet because it's no longer working on my own. Taking them there last wk was exhausting!!! I can't tell you how long it took for me to get them inside the door and once I got one in, a hyper weimaraner batted my girl in the face and back out she went with her brother. It was a nightmare. So, next time hubby is going along to help. Pretty sad I can't take 2, 3 mo old pups to the vet alone. :P But aside from picking them both up at once and opening the door at the same time it wasn't happening, they weren't moving and if they were, it was sitting pulling backwards so we wouldn't go in.
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i agree with julie. we are the bosses (even our kids do obedience with them and they're 1 and 3) and then the only dog we let be "higher" is axle for the simple fact of with having 5 dogs, he is the only one who can handle being "second in command" (to people) and not abuse it. he very rarely punishes the other dogs, but in situations where i don't want to put my hands in he is very good at breaking up disputes that have gotten too rough. even if you don't go to obedience classes, you can still do some at home. this will really help you in the short and long run and it will help occupy their time also. one thing i have noticed though is with some dogs, having no "alone" time with their people can cause problems. i've seen dogs that spent years together and you couldn't separate them b/c they'd both flip out, some to the point of hurting themselves or destroying houses in attempts to get to the other dog(s). for this reason we make sure to walk single dogs or go to petsmart etc with only one dog to make sure they have that confidence should we ever need to bring ONLY one dog somewhere. as for the walks, just don't give them a choice. when you give in and just pick them up they're getting their way. we were told by our trainer to never take no for an answer. if you want or need it make them do it. if you just keep walking, after a few days they'll get the point. even if it's just a 20 ft walk down the street, you're still getting the point across.
yeah that's true. i never go to them and pick them up because i figured it would defeat the purpose and they would never learn to walk on the leash so i make them walk at least outside to go potty, enjoyable walks around the neighborhood are going to have to wait though, taking 3 kids and 2 puppies that won't walk on a leisurely, supposedly pleasurable stroll was an awful chore lol. i guess i could try taking one when hubby gets home from work and leaving the kids here w/him to make it a little easier.
ya know i had my doubts about crating them together to start with but i didn't want to traumatize them in the beginning. they are better than they were then at least..and one can be out playing and the other one in the crate for not behaving and after a few unhappy whines and barks from the crated one they settle. it's funny because whoever is out is happy to be and seems to almost rub it in the other ones face lol. once i seperated them i was also going to feed thems seperately of course and walk them seperately. there have been times all they do was roughhouse outside and it's one huge ball of puppy fur tumbling and no one is going potty so i'll put one back inside.
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Have you tried a bell for the potty training? It worked for us to housetrain Lily. Although a couple of weeks later, when the bell would not stop ringing LOL we had to take it off.
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lol yea that's my fear haha. we haven't. we tried that for our last dog (an Eskie) and that was the same problem with her, well it never worked actually she just played with it and never 'used' it. i could try it though. we take them out the same door every time we take them out to potty and have from day one but they dont go to that door when they need to go either- that would be so helpful if they would... in time.
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Maybe if you hang it kind of high so they can reach it it could work. I mean...everyti ne you open the door for them to pee you would ring it...and then if they want to go they will go to the door and will try to get to it...and here they are BY THE DOOR. Just like you want it!
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How old is Lily now? She's adorable :)
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walks will get easier when everyone matures a little. on the rare occasion i or we get a wild hair up our butt, i / we take 5 dogs and 2 (1 and 3) kids for a walk. other times i'll take all the dogs and leave the kids for a break ha ha, i'll play the "but, HONEY, it's just soooooooooooo hard to take EVERYone" ha ha, he falls for it every time. how old are your babies?
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walks will get easier when everyone matures a little. on the rare occasion i or we get a wild hair up our butt, i / we take 5 dogs and 2 (1 and 3) kids for a walk. other times i'll take all the dogs and leave the kids for a break ha ha, i'll play the "but, HONEY, it's just soooooooooooo hard to take EVERYone" ha ha, he falls for it every time. how old are your babies?
my kids are 9, 2.5 and almost 11 mos. so my oldest attempted to push the double stroller which i discovered pushes horribly (waste of $) and hubby and i each took a dog. they could have done worse but it was a bit stressful lol. i had to take turns holding each to walk home because they were just DONE. we only walked around the block because i know they shouldn't be excercised a ton at this age but even what they would walk proved to be too much.
it would be good for them if i did take one each on a walk so that way they would get some alone time with me and not be as distracted with the other, not to mention- easier. ;)
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i know EXACTLY how you feel (minus the 9 y/o). we have a 1 y/o boy and a 3 y/o boy. boy, can it get hectic! i can say, toys r us has a jeep double stroller for like $70 that's great!
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2266102&cp=2255983.2256189.2256200&parentPage=family
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i know EXACTLY how you feel (minus the 9 y/o). we have a 1 y/o boy and a 3 y/o boy. boy, can it get hectic! i can say, toys r us has a jeep double stroller for like $70 that's great!
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2266102&cp=2255983.2256189.2256200&parentPage=family
well ill check that out, thanks! i was going to get that one initially when i went searching for one because we had the jeep liberty one or whatever it is and loved it, but the double got some bad reviews. so i go getting a fancier more $ one and it's crap! i can't even sell it, i've tried MANY times.
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Ok honestly the separate crating is not traumatizing. Since a crate is their den/bedroom, I bet they'll be psyched to have their own, their place to get away and chew a bone or take a nap and not get disturbed.
For walks, are you using a harness or leash and collar. I highly recommend a harness cause then you don't feel bad pulling them and making them walk. Also do you carry like jerky training treats? Those could help a lot!
For socialization, I agree shots are really important but socialization is even more important. Sniffing noses and saying hi is fine. Smelling poop is NOT! So I still highly recommend getting out there and letting them meet as many pups as you can. If anything you can post on craigslist in the pet section and see if there is anyone in the area that is willing to meet up and do some puppy socialization. You can meet up at a park or something!
I know that they will go #2 somewhere besides the perimeter but they are kinda wrapping you around their paw by making you cater to them and think that that is the only place they'll go. If you stand wherever you want them to go long enough, they will go. Pace them back and forth just like a 3 foot wide span and they'll relize this is the place where they'll have to go.
You are doing a fantastic job. I don't have any skin kids and I think 2 pyr pups alone would be enough for me! Keep up the good work, all of the sudden you'll go WOW they are doing it all! Leaving the cats alone, going potty outside, walking...etc! Cheers!
Julie
well when they are left alone that's the only place they poo and when we walk them that's where they take us to go or we take them since it's like the magic spot to get them to squat. i can even tell they need to go BAD and they will hold it until they can get close to their perimeter and then bam. it sure makes cleaning up easy though i must say! and know where not to walk lol. i didn't understand it exactly until i read that pyrs first line of defense is to leave their scent marks around the perimeter of their territory and i already knew about patrolling etc..so that makes sense. i dont mind going there to potty it's just that sometimes it's a pain in the middle of the night lol.
thanks for your advice and support..it helps. i don't have a harness no, but that would be a good idea huh? i'll get that then, i'll try anything! some things that are right in front of my face i don't even think of. :P
and i only crated them together since i was going on my breeders advice, i figured i'd trust what she said since she bred them, but i will be happy to seperate them now lol. they do love their crate now..so that's nice.
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well ill check that out, thanks! i was going to get that one initially when i went searching for one because we had the jeep liberty one or whatever it is and loved it, but the double got some bad reviews. so i go getting a fancier more $ one and it's crap! i can't even sell it, i've tried MANY times.
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i really like it! i don't like the ones that are one up front and one in back b/c it limits the view in the back and our kids would get frustrated and act out very quickly (mainly our 3 year old acting against our 1 y/o). the only thing is it doesn't have storage, and if you're somewhere with just regular doors it's kinda hard to get in. we're fortunate enough though that our mall and a lot of our stores have double-doors that make it super easy to get in. toys-r-us also has a few of the front and back strollers that look nice for an ok price.
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Lily is 8 months and 10 days (I am not counting!). I love her to death! I have to admit I don't know if I would be able to train or just deal with her if I had children. You must be very brave!
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Ok I have to jump in on this, the reason that they go to the perimeter is because they are Pyrs. Pyrs will go to the very edge of thier "property" to mark and let the predators know that they are there- that this is thier place. Even though yours are probably not having to guard against coyotes or wolves, this is instinctive. Pyrs also dig, allow them one area of the yard that is thiers to dig until thier hearts are content. If not, you are going to have a couple of very frustrated Pyrs and then next thing you know, you are replacing carpet (if you have any) Its almost a necessity for them to dig. If you dont want your yard with holes- get them a sand box- let them know that it is thiers.
I currently have a 3 1/2 month old male Pyr. We have not done any obedience training yet. I am sure that he will get that- but right now the older girls are teaching him all about life, including when to bark at the coyotes and how to patrol the perimeter fencing. Tug is crate trained- and pretty much potty trained- we are still working on that though.
I also agree on the water bottle. It is a god send in most instances. All I have to do is pick mine up and they sprout halos and wings.
Also get ready for the butt head stage. They go thru a stage, usually around or right after 6 mos of age, and they will not listen to you or pay you any attention at all, for any reason. My theory is that this is the stage at which they determine that they have to grow up and become independent. And being a Pyr, they are pretty sure that they are smarter than you. This is when you have to be strong and keep reminding them that you are the boss. I have gone thru this with 4 Pyrs now, and I am interested in how the baby will handle it since the girls are mothering him and teaching him the rules of life. You will get your Pyr back at some point after they are a year old- one day they will look at you and you will know- that stage has ended.
Another bit of advice- listen about the socialization, you have small children- these pups are going to guard your kids. Make sure that they are well socialized with young children- other wise your kids will have a problem with thier friends coming over in the future. A young child is no match for an over bearing, 120 pound Pyrenees who instinctively knows that protecting his kids is his soul purpose in life.
Welcome to the world of the Pyrenees. If I didnt adore them so much, I certainly wouldnt have four of them. I really am looking forward to more pics of the two.
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Ok I have to jump in on this, the reason that they go to the perimeter is because they are Pyrs. Pyrs will go to the very edge of thier "property" to mark and let the predators know that they are there- that this is thier place. Even though yours are probably not having to guard against coyotes or wolves, this is instinctive. Pyrs also dig, allow them one area of the yard that is thiers to dig until thier hearts are content. If not, you are going to have a couple of very frustrated Pyrs and then next thing you know, you are replacing carpet (if you have any) Its almost a necessity for them to dig. If you dont want your yard with holes- get them a sand box- let them know that it is thiers.
I currently have a 3 1/2 month old male Pyr. We have not done any obedience training yet. I am sure that he will get that- but right now the older girls are teaching him all about life, including when to bark at the coyotes and how to patrol the perimeter fencing. Tug is crate trained- and pretty much potty trained- we are still working on that though.
I also agree on the water bottle. It is a god send in most instances. All I have to do is pick mine up and they sprout halos and wings.
Also get ready for the butt head stage. They go thru a stage, usually around or right after 6 mos of age, and they will not listen to you or pay you any attention at all, for any reason. My theory is that this is the stage at which they determine that they have to grow up and become independent. And being a Pyr, they are pretty sure that they are smarter than you. This is when you have to be strong and keep reminding them that you are the boss. I have gone thru this with 4 Pyrs now, and I am interested in how the baby will handle it since the girls are mothering him and teaching him the rules of life. You will get your Pyr back at some point after they are a year old- one day they will look at you and you will know- that stage has ended.
Another bit of advice- listen about the socialization, you have small children- these pups are going to guard your kids. Make sure that they are well socialized with young children- other wise your kids will have a problem with thier friends coming over in the future. A young child is no match for an over bearing, 120 pound Pyrenees who instinctively knows that protecting his kids is his soul purpose in life.
Welcome to the world of the Pyrenees. If I didnt adore them so much, I certainly wouldnt have four of them. I really am looking forward to more pics of the two.
Ok, now I have a question to you. Lily is completely housebroken. She doesn't even go on the deck BUT...when we have friends over with their dogs she would pee on the floor (carpet, tile...). Is she marking her territory? Or just being lazy independent Pyr who just doen't want to bother to go outside? (the last one is mine opinion!)
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Being a pyr- she is probably marking her territory. Instincts are really strong in most Pyrs. However she could just be telling you that she is not thrilled to be sharing with other dogs. Has she gone thru the difficult, hard headed, I will do as I please, and yes I hear you, cant you tell that I am ignoring you? (otherwise known as the butt head) stage..
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Ok I have to jump in on this, the reason that they go to the perimeter is because they are Pyrs. Pyrs will go to the very edge of thier "property" to mark and let the predators know that they are there- that this is thier place. Even though yours are probably not having to guard against coyotes or wolves, this is instinctive. Pyrs also dig, allow them one area of the yard that is thiers to dig until thier hearts are content. If not, you are going to have a couple of very frustrated Pyrs and then next thing you know, you are replacing carpet (if you have any) Its almost a necessity for them to dig. If you dont want your yard with holes- get them a sand box- let them know that it is thiers.
I currently have a 3 1/2 month old male Pyr. We have not done any obedience training yet. I am sure that he will get that- but right now the older girls are teaching him all about life, including when to bark at the coyotes and how to patrol the perimeter fencing. Tug is crate trained- and pretty much potty trained- we are still working on that though.
I also agree on the water bottle. It is a god send in most instances. All I have to do is pick mine up and they sprout halos and wings.
Also get ready for the butt head stage. They go thru a stage, usually around or right after 6 mos of age, and they will not listen to you or pay you any attention at all, for any reason. My theory is that this is the stage at which they determine that they have to grow up and become independent. And being a Pyr, they are pretty sure that they are smarter than you. This is when you have to be strong and keep reminding them that you are the boss. I have gone thru this with 4 Pyrs now, and I am interested in how the baby will handle it since the girls are mothering him and teaching him the rules of life. You will get your Pyr back at some point after they are a year old- one day they will look at you and you will know- that stage has ended.
Another bit of advice- listen about the socialization, you have small children- these pups are going to guard your kids. Make sure that they are well socialized with young children- other wise your kids will have a problem with thier friends coming over in the future. A young child is no match for an over bearing, 120 pound Pyrenees who instinctively knows that protecting his kids is his soul purpose in life.
Welcome to the world of the Pyrenees. If I didnt adore them so much, I certainly wouldnt have four of them. I really am looking forward to more pics of the two.
Thank you for all your advice and experience! I was aware of the marking thing, I think it's pretty cool personally haha. They actually did find the kids sandbox one day they were playing in it and went to town, it was hysterical..an d any time it's open they go nuts in there. Didn't think about getting them their own, that would be a good idea. We don't have any kids come around so that's a hard one but I do know how important it is, I've read that in my books too..so I want to get them out and about more. Hubby wanted to take them for a ride up to work tomorrow haha. I have a friend w/2 little ones but some people are nervous around dogs or dogs that aren't tiny. These have a habit of getting a little rough with the little ones and I have to always watch of course to make sure enough is enough. Yiska especially likes to nip at them, it's not mean but it's her way of playing and I have to watch it. Yukon mainly just gives kisses.
Wow, you've had 4- that's awesome. I hear about that stage they go through you mentioned and that scares me a little lol..but I'm expecting it at least.
Oh and I picked up the spray bottle today so I can start using that and see what happens. I haven't needed to use it yet. :)
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Julie- we are going to have to work on getting you a Pyr. HA HA HA HA oh and just so every will know that I am nuts, I currently have 4. We call them the Polar Bear pack.
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Hey I just wanted to throw in that I'm sorry about the poop around the fence perimeter response I had, I did not know that that was a typical Pyr trait. I thought it was stubbornosity! haha! I swear I am learning new things on this board everyday! Thanks Paige and everyone else who posted it as well!! I have never had Pyrs so take all of my advice with a big ol' grain o'salt!
had to modify cause I am a dork!
lol, yeah I was thinking, no but they really do need to poop there! lol. Funny thing is though since I get yard duty you don't know how many times I am grateful to have a Pyr. With as much as they go and considering it's the size of a full grown Golden Retriever at only 3 mos old (EWW)- I am VERY happy they will only go in certain areas, we have a large yard and it makes an unpleasant job MUCH easier. ;D
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Welcome to the world of Great Pyrenees. Your babies are sooooooooooo cute. It is a good thing that are that cute or they would never make it past 6 months. Just kidding, I am so hooked on Pyrs I could never see me with out a few. I have three Pyrs. Sugar Bear is my 2 1/2 year old male. Dixie Darlin' is my alpha bitch andis 2 years old. Penny Lane is my baby at 8 1/2 months old.
I have found that is really is necessary for me to have one on one time with each of them. I had a lot going on after getting Penny and I did not get her out as much as the other two. Now we are doing two weekly trips since she is at the second fear period. She is a show dog but when she got in the ring for the first time she was just sure she was a bucking bronco, so it is back to lead time 101.
Oh as far as the boy and marking in the house it took me almost 11 months to break Sugar Bear of that. For him it was when I take him to work with me he wanted to mark each desk, chair, trash can, and on and on. For me boys have taken a lot longer and a lot more work to potty train.
Lisa
Owned by Sugar Bear, Dixie Darlin', and Penny Lane
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How is the play fighting going? It took me forever with Sugar Bear and Dixie to learn that they really were playing and not fighting. I will try to get some video of mine on youtube. They sound like they are going to kill each other but it is all in good fun for them. Penny Lane is very vocal when she is playing.
Lisa
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How is the play fighting going? It took me forever with Sugar Bear and Dixie to learn that they really were playing and not fighting. I will try to get some video of mine on youtube. They sound like they are going to kill each other but it is all in good fun for them. Penny Lane is very vocal when she is playing.
Lisa
Oh that's a great picture! they are beautiful. :-* Well my breeder told me the same thing when we were out there to pick them up, about the 2 females fighting, they would wake up at night to the sounds thinking for sure someone was going to be torn up but they never were. I'd love to see some video of yours to compare. I will try to take some of mine later. I don't know, it really seems like real fighting and somebody always ends up crying, it's hard to tell.
Good to know about the males being more difficult, maybe that is going to be the case or IS the case haha. I just don't know about him. He can hold it longer than her in the crate and doesn't need out as much as she does..she also pees multiple times in the yard, but inside it's always him going? So maybe it is marking. Kinda sucks but I keep reminding myself that one day he won't do it anymore and carpets can be cleaned- again lol. I'll just keep at it!
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Oh and Yukon is the most vocal of the 2 also. All the growling and dramatic sounds are always coming from him lol.