LOL......when we decided to get a Newfie, we were under the impression that Pyrs, Saints, and Newfies were all cousins! Well, you know! One is pure white, one is pure black, and then you have the tri-color of the Saint....right? Ha-ha! And then I only found out about browns, silvers, and Landseers after joining BPO. I really liked the browns, did my research on Newfoundlands, and was lucky to find Molly's breeder. Even with the research, it wasn't until we'd had Molly for a few weeks that I finally learned Newfies were originally developed from Labs and Chesapeake Bay Retrievers! I was shocked!