It has been a long day. I will post pics of the male, first and then the female ( I am on a dial up- ugh)The male is about 29 inches, weighs 87 pounds and is at least 3 years old. Extremely skinny. I can see his ribs and the vertebrae in his back ( same with the female) I dont think that they are related as she seems to have a larger skeletal system and just doesnt really resemble him at all. I can happily report, they are wonderful sweet dogs. The male doesnt seem to even acknowledge the cat, even those she hissed at him. He was interested in the african grey parrot- but only temporarily. They are house broken. When I got there- they had the tag on the front of their cage with todays date as the euthanasia date,so I am glad that they are here.The third pic is my male and the male rescue. In person, Jake looks like a giant compared to the rescue male.