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Treatment & Preventative Meds / Re: Nosodes....Need opinions
« on: July 06, 2006, 06:47:51 pm »

I am not here to suggest that everything offered in the market is effective and valid without a clinical trial - sure you have seen things that don't work. I can think of scores as well. But I also know better than to think a clinical trial is any guarantee of anything either.  Does it work in practice or doesn't it?  Thirty years of widespread practice isn't meaningless and there are studies, albeit few on nosodes for those interested in looking.

For those who need clinical trials, then nosodes and anything else not blind trialed, will not be attractive to you.  Depends on your mindset.  I know that those who come from deeply rooted scientific families cannot let go of this and find it difficult to grasp - that's ok. I am not here to advocate following anything blindly, without due diligence and research, whether traditional or alternative. I  do not understand however the mind that has been taught to trust a purchased clinical trial over practical real-life experience.  1,000 people telling me something consistent will always mean more to me than someone's clinical trial.

I do not personally use nosodes myself because they aren't necessary for me, but neither are vaccines and at least nosodes are the disease, nothing but the disease and no other chemicals, formaldehyde, brain tissues and bacterias. This is what is harmful. If everyone is making a choice to vaccinate because they understand how they work, what they do in the body, their failure rate, their health risks, their duration of immunity, and the true incidence and risk of disease to determine if they are even needed - then great - I will always respect that. I do not denounce the notion of vaccination - just the safety and necessity of current vaccines.

As for the last poster's reports on the low number of vaccine suits deemed valid - I have to choose to not debate that but ask everyone to use their own common sense here as well. People inject a vaccine into their animal or child every single day - and anything other than immediate anaphylactic shock is deemed "unproven connection" by the CDC.  I have seen suits denied for kids balloned up and covered in boils following vaccination, and dogs who developed conditions within days that are consistently and systemically reported by well-known immunologists as vaccine consistent and still - "unproven connection" because in the end, what proof can you provide? An easy defense.

Countless doctors have spoken up to say it was vaccine induced. Many other countries have banned several vaccines still used in the U.S. knowing they are harmful and the U.K. has documented vaccine damage for decades starting with the vaccine induced small-pox outbreak there. Polio today is solely caused by the vaccine here - about 400 cases per year and dogs routinely suffer acute neurological damage from the neurological vaccines (distemper and rabies).  It is far too much to go into here but there is so much information out there if people want to review both sides and consider it all for themselves.


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Treatment & Preventative Meds / Re: Nosodes....Need opinions
« on: July 05, 2006, 02:55:37 pm »

Imani's Mom said it so well I will do what I can not repeat here.  She said it right.

Unfortunately, we live in a society today where we do not question vaccines - they are such a pushed medical procedure by trusted medical professionals.  There are scores of information out there on the danger of vaccines today however if people want to do their homework and look. The CDC has established an entire separate agency dedicated solely to vaccines to handle all of the lawsuits on a monthly and yearly basis for serious side effects and premature deaths resulting from vaccines.  It is a prolific problem and my hope is more information will be forthcoming.

As Imani's mom stated however, it is a healthy immune system that protects and fights disease - NOT vaccines. Vaccines ARE the disease, as well as many other chemicals. There is no guarantee in them, they often fail, and they often become virulent (causing the actual disease they are aiming to prevent).  This the primary argument against the lepto vaccine for instance - it actually causes lepto more often than not (either acute or carrier state).

What we should be focused on is building a healthy immune system, through controlled natural exposure to illness and disease in order to build resistance, feed a healthy diet, and avoid chemical/toxin assaults on the system.  My dogs have never been vaccinated - a lesson learned after poor health, allergies, cancer and auto-immune problems in prior dogs.  My current dogs are the healthiest I have ever had and actively socialize in a large play group of dogs. A puppy in this group got Parvo - no known parvo in my city so I am convinced from her vaccine - and several dogs in the group got sick. Diarrhea and vomiting were common in all of these vaccinated dogs that were supposedly "protected" - my dogs?  Not a single sign of illness. I focused on their immune system and started boosting it when we learned of the illness through diet and vitamin supplementatio n. My girls' best friend is only now returning to normal and eating regularly again...my girls never skipped a beat.  It truly is the immune system - and vaccines are giving a hugely false sense of security.

Nosodes are based on the homeopathic principle - you may see many of my other posts here referencing homeopathy. It can be given as a preventative or to treat disease. There are mixed views on this since most homeopaths believe it should not be given preventatively, but rather only when exposure has occurred. Conventional science has a problem with homeopathy, so most vets will not support and it is against their oath - they like to say that "nosodes are not proven".  There isn't a lot of "clinical trial" study to support nosodes, but they have been used in the UK for more than 30 years as a matter of course. In the UK, nosodes have historically performed much better than vaccines. This is all anecdotal evidence through vet reporting however. No medical body has any vested interest to pay for clinical trials so it is unlikely to happen.

One important fact about nosodes - they should NEVER be given with vaccines or after vaccination to try to antidote them.

Also, Nosodes, like vaccines, do not confer immunity. Only the immune system can do this.

I highly recommend you purchase Catherine O'Driscoll's book "Shock to the System"...she dedicates an entire chapter to nosodes, what they are, how they should be used if at all, and all the scientific references available regarding them. She discusses vaccination, the immune system, clinical studies and nutrition as well.  An excellent and highly informative book about the vet profession and I can't recommend it enough.


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Treatment & Preventative Meds / Re: Is there anything we can do?
« on: July 05, 2006, 02:16:06 pm »

I personally use homeopathic remedies for most insect stings/bites and find them to be the most effective at truly curing the sting, rather than merely suppressing the symptom (what we see).  My girl just got stung by a bee last week and was very unhappy about it. It took me quite a while to find it but I eventually did and removed the stinger - it was very red.  I iced it as should be done for all red, or inflammed bites and then gave her the appropriate remedy, in this case Rhus Tox matched her symptoms and characteristic s. She was holding her leg up and wouldn't stand on it when we started....wit hin a couple of hours the redness was gone and she was walking around fine.  Apis is another common remedy as well and these are found in your local healthfood store.

If you are not familiar with homeopathy, you should consider taking a closer look as it has been invaluable in addressing common issues with my dogs.

If you aren't comfortable with homeopathy then there are several natural remedies that help easy discomfort of bites and dilute the sting. Wash the bite thoroughly to remove any toxins, ice it to provide comfort and decrease swelling, and apply Lavendar oil for instance to poisonous bites like snake bited, every 20 minutes until medical help is found. Tea Tree oil is also effective as an antiseptic.

All of these things treat the issue at hand - the bite instead of introducing a drug into the system.

Good luck!

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Food Discussion & Information / Re: Who Else Buys Beef Soup Bones?
« on: June 30, 2006, 12:25:48 pm »

An awful lot of you are talking about feeding your raw bones indoors and this is very concerning to me. I want to preface what I am about to say by saying that I have been feeding raw for 5 years, several dogs, and prepare diets for people on a regular basis. I don't find handling raw meat "icky" or see what is gross about holding a turkey neck so....with that said:

Raw meaty bones in your house is a serious health hazard and not to be taken lightly. You can't rub a meaty bone on your floor and think a "quick mop" is going to do anything to effectively clean the surface. It would take serious chemicals - bleach, ammonia etc. to effectively clean the bacteria - even if it has been frozen you should not presume safety and bacteria free.  I don't recommend using these chemicals as these are hazardous to your animals and would not want them walking on these surfaces afterwards. I do not recommend touching door handles, appliances or other surfaces before washing your hands thoroughly and definitely recommend against allowing your dogs to chew on bones on rugs or regular floor surfaces.

For those raw feeders I know who cannot allow their dogs outside to chew (either too cold etc.), they lay out plastic with a sheet on top so that then at least they can wash the sheet in extremely hot temperatures. I recommend this over allowing them on any other surface.

Personally, my dogs don't set food indoors with a bone - they chew them outside where they stay and since breakfast is always our RMB meal - I hand them their turkey necks outside in the morning.

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Food Discussion & Information / Re: RMB Q
« on: June 28, 2006, 08:02:26 pm »
Ok, I tried switching my dog to raw meat and bones and she's doing great on the meat part but whenever I give her bones she burries them somewhere and refuses to eat them.  Any ideas on how to get her enough calcium?  She also refuses any form of chicken unless it's disguised in other food.

If she doesn't like chicken, then I suggest just listening to her and not feeding chicken. No point in feeding something she doesn't like.

As for bones, turkey necks are a great balanced source and the primary bone source in my home. If she is not into consuming whole bone at this point, then you should consider ground bone. You can do this yourself if you want to buy a grinder, or you can purchase pre-packaged frozen products like bravo or halshans. You can also purchase a natural calcium supplement such as Animal Essentials Calcium (not bonemeal) and mix in with her food if this is feasible, but not as good as bone. Egg shells are not a good source as the sole source, as they are high in calcium but have no phosphorus and will readily throw the calcium:phosphorus ratio off with longterm use - very important balance for a dog. 

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Food Discussion & Information / Re: Who Else Buys Beef Soup Bones?
« on: June 28, 2006, 07:55:37 pm »
The last time we fed a bone, it was one of those huge knuckle bones from petsmart,   Seems like the soup bones wouldn't break as sharply as the knuckle bone did.

 Is that right? Will they still pass bone pieces with eating a soup bone?

Knuckle bones ARE soup bones - same thing. They are Beef Knuckle bones from the joint of long bones. Grocery stores all carry them and their benefits of feeding the as recreational chewing is as raw bones - no value to cooked and those would be more dangerous since if consumed so large, would have a much harder time passing and breaking down. There is little meat on them but dogs tend to scrape the raw meat and this is an excellent teeth cleaner - I have never had my dogs' teeth cleaned in their life and they better than the kibble fed dogs who get cleanings.

Beware however of the grocery store variety as these are "cut" bones and some are small relative to their orginal state.  Cut bones, if you have an aggressive chewer who consumes them, can do damage and come out scraping the intestines. Ideally, if you can order them uncut from a butcher or farmer - huge - at least 8 inches long - that is the best and safest manner - Oh and always RAW.

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Food Discussion & Information / Re: Can dogs have tomatoes?
« on: June 28, 2006, 07:48:43 pm »

Tomatoes themselves are not toxic for dogs, the way chocolate, grapes and onions are so they are not in the same category.  While they are "fine" to feed and the occasional tomatoe sauce is no problem, they are part of the "night shade" family and therefore are inflammatory. Animals with arthritis or joint problems should not eat them and elderly animals are wise to avoid.

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Food Discussion & Information / Re: Tripe
« on: June 28, 2006, 07:46:12 pm »

Green tripe is fantastic for dogs - they always love it and it has an excellent balance of nutrients for them - both fiber and offal.  Be sure to never feed bleached tripe - this has all nutrients washed and bleached and provides absolutely no value. It is important to still have the stomach contents in the tripe - this the "green" which is really black :)  and this is what dogs love.

Good luck!

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Treatment & Preventative Meds / Re: Advantix
« on: June 28, 2006, 07:38:36 pm »

I have heard of countless reports of serious side effects from all of the toxic chemicals:  fipronil (Frontline), imidacloprid (Advantage), permethrin and others including seizures, anaphylatic shock, liver and kidney damage, GI Tract complications, renal failure, and auto-immune disease... and the list goes on.

I think it is critical for everyone to remember that all of these chemicals are pesticides, regulated by the EPA in most cases, and toxic. They permeate the dog's skin, enter the bloodstream and internal organs (liver & kidney) and can filter into the intestinal tract. These chemicals are also excreted through these organs in feces and urine.  The packaging provides serious warnings about not touching with your hands and washing your hands immediately after application. Hmmmm...so it is safe to pour onto your pet's skin, but you should not allow it to come into contact with your own and "keep children away".

Frontline has the lowest reported side effects and fewest claims for damages and most vets agree this one is potentially the least damaging - although none can be called safe.  If you are dealing with an infestation, then one use may be necessary to break the cycle and get things under control. But otherwise, repeated use is very unhealthy for your pet and extremely dangerous for cats. There are many natural methods that are effective for repelling fleas and ticks that do not pose a health risk to the animal.


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Treatment & Preventative Meds / Re: Gold Bead Implants
« on: June 28, 2006, 07:25:21 pm »


I have heard a lot about them from Great Dane people - who often turn to them for the common Spondylosis and Wobblers issues in that breed.  One colleague of mind recently referred several to this site for more information:


http://www.danebytes.com/gold_bead_implants.htm

My understanding is success is excellent on young dogs who seek treatment early and drops to only 50% when the dogs are elderly or over 10 years of age.

Good luck

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You really, really need the puppy pads.  ;)

Have you been using anything to clean the smell from the carpet?  It can be confusing for him if he smells where he's gone before.

If I were you, I'd steamclean my carpets with an enzymatic cleaner to break down any urine scent that's left in the carpet right now; keep puppy pads around for him; and make sure that you use an enzyme cleaner for any accidents he has going forward.  It's just a matter of time.  :D



I should have also seconded NoDogNow in that the quality of cleaning is very important as well and is reinforcing. Many think they have cleaned it well since they can't see it, but I have learned that without using at least half a gallon of Nature's Miracle and my steam cleaner - it isn't clean.  Stick your nose to it and if you can smell it at all, you need to keep working on it.  If the dog is going in the same area as well, he is showing you it is well marked also.

The best test of whether it is clean are dogs themselves. When dogs come into my home and don't stick their noses to the carpet, I know I have mine clean...truly clean.

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My Berners have always been very easy to potty train, and my current girl took just 3 days to understand and 2 weeks to be trusted and reliable on her own. The breed is highly trainable this way - of course, it depends on our consistency :)

In my experience, the key to training effectively is to consistently show the behavior desired and reward for it (you're doing that) and don't allow the puppy to be wrong. Mistakes are reinforcing and each one doubles the amount of time to undue. The goal is 0 accidents inside and you can get it done in 3 days like I did.  If accidents happen, they must be caught in the act or there is no learning.

I strongly advise against the use of puppy pads - that does nothing to show the puppy the desired behavior OR location and should only be used in desperate situations such as gone all day long and left alone in a kitchen - not ideal.

In my case, I picked up my girl a couple minutes after eating or drinking and took her outside to the same spot - when she squatted I said "go potty" and after 4 or so repetitions of this she learned the association of the action and word command. We stayed outside until she went by the way...patience . Thereafter, I continued taking her outside every 40 minutes or so to empty herself with the same routine. They seem like they are never empty :)

While inside, I stayed within 2 feet of her at all times. This is tough for many and so I recommend tethering him to your waist. If she went into a squat, I was right there to pick her up and say "no", moving her outside. Any further than that, and we can't be on top of the action. I always left our back door open for my first Berner, and while he was generally good at going on when he needed he never learned to scratch the door or truly tell me he needed out should the door be closed...this can backfire....so with this girl, I never left the door open, so she learned how to manage with it closed and had to tell me and give me a sign.

We used potty pads while flying home on the airplane together in her bag and in the airport. Here's a great lesson of how this can backfire too:  my girl was good and knowing where to go - outside is first choice. But for the first few days, she would go to the back door and if closed, she would turn and head upstairs straight to the master bathroom, where we had...of all things....whit e bath mats. Funny, they looked like a potty pad.  She peed the first time on the bath mat - very smart girl. So realizing this, I waited for the second instance, and when she turned to head upstairs I allowed her to go...following her...and waited until she got up to the bathmat and started to squat - then I quickly picked her up while saying "no" and ran her downstairs and outside. She understood that the bathmat was also not the right choice through clear association and it never happened again. This is the final key lesson - always catch them in the act in order to correct the behavior. I could have always prevented her from going upstairs to the bathmat but there was no learning in that - I needed to undue the thinking that the bathmat was choice #2. This is harder and harder to do the more times they have been successful going inside without being caught in the act and moved appropriately outside.

So just remember to focus on 1) very close supervision within 2 feet, 2) catch them in the act and move them promptly 3) set up structure to teach the behavior you want such as door closed and an indication they need out 4) reward profusely for going outside 5) set them up for success and take them out frequently so they cant be wrong

Good luck

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Breeding Questions & Information / Re: How to find a good breeder....
« on: June 09, 2006, 10:31:49 pm »

It is so nice to see a topic like this posted - I wish I could run reputable breeder advice in every major newspaper every week but.....

I agree with several points already mentioned - namely, if they are poo-pooing the breed club it is a serious red flag - like it or not, that is the official voice and community for the breed and usually it is a sign they can't get in.  Most breed clubs have codes of ethics for their membership breeders, some stricter than others, but a good step and this is always the best first place to start in finding a good breeder (there are many unreputable breeders in clubs as well so it is no guarantee, but still an important place to go).

I have a lot more considerations that are too many to name here, so consider checking them out on my website under "Looking for a Puppy?"  www.naturalk9. com


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Saint Bernard General Discussions / Re: Crates?
« on: June 09, 2006, 10:16:00 pm »

Thor doesn't need a crate, he needs mental and physical stimulation due to severe boredom.  He is only trying to entertain himself and get out his pent-up energy so it is critical to help him do this and it means he needs more exercise, socialization and stimulation.

I don't know how old he is, but crating a dog for more than 4 hours or so during the day, especially if already crated through the night is not productive or useful. He needs to be able to stretch, utilize his leg muscles and address his own energy level. Crating him during the day will make your current problem worse.  He is a working dog who needs something to do.

If you have long work schedules or are gone a lot, can you get him into a doggie daycare where he can play and socialize with others his age? If not, how about hiring someone to come in twice a day and play with him? neighbor child? professional dog walker?  These are positive solutions that will help alleviate his frustration and your's.

Good luck!

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MacyBean is correct - the hair protects and keeps the direct heat off their skin - which only makes them hotter.  I am always surprised at how many people get the notion that shaving dogs is "cooler" and how many vets go along without proper cautions.  There are some breeds, particularly those subject to heat stroke, which would be ill-advised to ever shave.

I know that long wooly dogs can get "cut" where 8-10 inch fur is cut down to 4" and this can help cool by allowing greater air ciculation through the fur to the skin; however shaving whereby hair is so short that skin is accessible is dangerous.  Too late now but be very careful with your Saint outdoors.


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