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Mastiffs => Rare Breed Mastiff Discussions => : DevilDog43 March 24, 2005, 05:44:14 AM
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I love al the mastiff breeds. Does anyone own a rare breed Mastiff??
English Mastiffs are AKC, as are Bullmastiffs too.
There are so many Mastiff breeds, I was amazed when I learned about them all.
I own a Brazilian Mastiff, called a "Fila Brasileiro."
The national dog of Brazil.
Definately a liability to own one of these breeds. "Ultimate personal protection dog." No strangers can enter my home. That is their temperament. But I love her anyway & she has always made me feel safe & sound.And I love all 180lbs of her!!!
I am new to group. Own a dog Training business in NJ area for last 9 years, as full time business. Rettired from showing dogs in AKC & rare breed shows in 2000. Of course, they were Mastiffs!!!!!
Happy Easter to all!
Devildog43
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I have a Fila too! Her name is Galiana and is 1.5 years old. She is all black with a white diamond on her chest. She is on the small side at about 95 lbs. She has a great temperment, is ok with lots of people just a little leary of strangers. We are located in Cincinnati, OH. Where are you at? Glad to hear from another owner, seems to be very few out there. Your pic seems to be broke, hope mine works...
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Hi Erin
Nice dog you have. Yes, very few Fila owners are out there. The breeed is definately NOT for everyone. I do not know how much you know about them as a breed. But They are not suppossed to accept strangers at all. Once they reach their temperament (which varies with each indiviual dog), it is called ,"OJERICA", which means "wary of strangers." The police in Brazil take these dogs on patrol with them, as bodyguards. "FILA" means to "HOLD." I have seen some who accept No one else but their owners to even touch them. And some who have a softer temperament, & will allow some strangers to approach them. They are also only one of two breeds in the world of dog shows, that is a "hands off" to judges. They do not approach them or touch them in the show ring.My dog does not allow strangers in my home at all. Not a doggie for the "social butterfly type of owner." Great to meet you!! My girl is brindle.
Thanks for the reply!!
Donna
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Hi I own an "American Mastiff" and they are not very prevalent. essentially they are 7/8 English Mastiff and 1/8 Anatolian Shephard. They look like somewhat leaner OEM's. You can check out a picture from a month ago in the section American Mastiff (he is Goliath).
Matthew
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Hi Matthew
I have never heard of an American Mastiff. I do know the Anatolian Shepherds though. Is this breed a new Rare breed or just a breed that is new & trying to be introduced into ARBA or UKC ?
What is your dog's temperament like?? That of the OEM or the Anatolian Shepherd? Interesting mix of breeds.
Donna
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I have a Presa and Boerboel mix. Great dog. Gets along great with strangers after being introduced, and it seems that he has a good memory for people.[tr][/tr]
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Hi There!! Just logged in and find this an interesting site!! Hope it stays that way, too many sites/boards/chat areas are "doing the tango dance" on each other. I have at this time, five large sets of paws running my household. There are two dobermans, both females, one is an"old lady" and the other is a "breeder" (health tested, shown, from very good European lines, etc.) that is 2 1/2, and has had one litter. Maybe more in the future, we shall see. I have 3 South African Boerboels, one is a brindle 3yo female, looks just like the presa/boerboel mix above!!! I have a spoiled 2 yo, and a 10 month old male, both "yellow with black masking". I am waiting for my next female in about 2 1/2 months she will come over from South Africa, as the rest have. I enjoy them alot, but the size and strength they have is enormous. I used to also have Dogue de Bordeauxs, they run about the same in weight, but no where near each other in strength. Hands down, the boerboels are strong. Well, at least the neighbors are good about my dogs, they haven't complained, and we keep good tabs with them so they don't bother the neighbors. I do not like to let my dogs bother anyone else. But don't knock on the door- :D -they are loud barkers!!! Let's hear stories about large breeds and the funny things they do, because of their size-Britt
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Hi Everone,
I have 3 Filas (2 females and a male) all 3 are rescues that when I pulled out of the shelter they were all around 90 lbs. 2 had mange. one of them so severe we are still after 7 months trying to get his hair back. we have them at around 130 average right now and slowly gaining.
My babys were confiscated out of a drug bust.
all 3 have differet social personalities. the male loves everyone. One of the females likes almost everyone we have over. the other female we usually put in our bedroom when company is over. (she does have a select few that she likes, that is once she knows them).
We have a process when anyone comes into our house though before we introduce them to anyone . They are definately all love bugs with my family..
MY husband actually bought a second full sized matching bed for our bedroom as our king was not big enough for 5 of us.
ITs nice to meet other Fila owners.
Sandy
Ps my Filas names are Hope, Faith And Courage
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Goliath is an American Mastiff from FlyingWFarms in Piketon OH. American Mastiffs are registered with the CKC. Every one I have met has a personality very like an OEM and a somewhat leaner body like the anatolian. I have been SUPER happy with him and would recammend the breed to anyone with the time to care for them .... Goliath is very good inside (even at 5 months he is sedate indoors) and great with my 3 yr old son (goliath weighs twice a much as him but will sit and wait for his food without complaint and does exactly as he is told no matter who tells him what to do). Make NO mistake these are HUGE dogs (Goliath's sire was Brego -280 lbs and his dam was Gail - about 190 lbs).
Check out my breeders website if you like http://www.flyingwfarms.com
Matthew
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Hello.
I"m new to the board, but I have a male Cane Corso (Italian Mastiff). He's from Italy out of a breeder called Morgan Cane Corso. I would say that he's the lighter breed of the Mastiff's, but can still grow to be pretty large-Sire was 130lbs, Dam was 120lbs.
Maximus is a wonderful 2 year old that snores me right out of the room. He's the second one that I've owned and an absolute joy in my life!
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I love the very dark brindle coat!
Matthew
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Thank you. Max likes to keep a athletic build to him, but I'm winning the war of the weight and he's actually put on about 10 wonderful pounds now. His father was a blonde and mother was a black. Max and his brother are the only littermates here in the US.
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I am proudly OWNED by a fila and soon to be joined by another one. My fila is a red fawn and is 125 pounds and is 14 months old, his name is Falcon, and yes---Hi, Donna its Amanda, lol
This breed is awesome! Glad to know their are others out there. And just to let the other fila owners now there is a Fila Nationals in Charlotte in November I think???Will get more info or maybe Donna can straighten me out....lol
Take care and give hugs to all your filas (I can't I will get bite, lol)
Amanda
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Hi Amanada
Great dogs, aren't they?
I do not keep track of the Fila competitions anymore. I retired from the show ring & handling about 3 years ago. Just do not have the time to travel.
If you go, it is really cool to see other Fila's. So many wide opinions of how their temperaments should or should not be. Always a Hot Topic of conversation among the Fila show people. ha ha
I do know the judges have changed their views on having them being "a hands on" dog in the show ring now. Where a few years ago, they were on of only two breeds worldwide that were "HANDS OFF" even by judges. Only their handlers could touch & show them to the judges. So looks like the show world is leaning towards making them a bit softer in attitude. LOL Again, this causes allot of debate among some serious show owners. But have fun there.
Donna
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I Love the names you gave to your dogs. How great you rescued them all. They certainly look loved & happy now. As for the mange problem, please be aware that mange breaks down the immune system in dogs as they get older & causes severe health problems, as they age. Try using NUPRO POWDER on food, & keep givng them the perscription baths they need. It always seems to stay in any dogs system for life & it affects their immune system. Best of luck
Donna
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This is a great looking Cane Corso!! I love his build & head.
Cane Corso's were my first Mastiff I ever owned. I love them.
Best of luck with him
Donna
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Very nice looking dog! I am partial to the dark brindle ;)
Rachel
Hello.
I"m new to the board, but I have a male Cane Corso (Italian Mastiff). He's from Italy out of a breeder called Morgan Cane Corso. I would say that he's the lighter breed of the Mastiff's, but can still grow to be pretty large-Sire was 130lbs, Dam was 120lbs.
Maximus is a wonderful 2 year old that snores me right out of the room. He's the second one that I've owned and an absolute joy in my life!
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Hi. I am new to the board. I don't know how to post pictures. I am currently owned by 2 Spanish Mastiff bitches. I also have a Cane Corso too. I am looking into maybe a Fila De Sao Miguel pup. Still searching for the kennel and pup. Plus I have an OEM and my tiniest an Australian Shepard.
If someone can give me directions on how to post pictures, I would greatly appreciate it.
Rebecca
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its soooo easy.....when you are posting(in a new topic or just a reply), right under the space for the body text, there is a ADDITIONAL OPTIONS in bold...click it, and there will be this little menu that pops up and one option is ATTACH, just click browse and attach. if these are crappy directions...i am sorry LOL....someone else will help you, or there is a post about posting pictures, just search for it in the search bar
welcome! i cannot WAIT to see all the pix of your doggies! you have a housefull huh!
nice to have you here! you will love it!
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I have 3 South African Boerboels, one is a brindle 3yo female, looks just like the presa/boerboel mix above!!! I have a spoiled 2 yo, and a 10 month old male, both "yellow with black masking". I am waiting for my next female in about 2 1/2 months she will come over from South Africa, as the rest have.-Britt
Eventually, an other Boerboel-owner !
Hi everyone, it's nice to see how much you all are pleased with the choice(s) of dogs and breeds you've made.
We too: 2 Boerboels chose us to live with, here in Netherlands, Europe. The male was born around the corner at Immer Moed Boerboels http://www.immermoedboerboels.com/; the female comes from Vincent Marvell http://www.marvell.co.za/.
(http://outeniqua.50webs.com/photos/images/dscn2855kd.jpg)
Any other Boerboel-owners here ?
Albert.
http://www.elmwich.org/outeniqua/
boer-boel@lycos.nl
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Albert, I do not own a Boerboel but I would like to see pics of yours, for some reason I can't view them ???
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for some reason I can't view them ???
That's weird - no pictures at all or just the ones at the 'pictures'-pages ? ???
You can see photo's of Abel and Lucy also at http://outeniqua.50webs.com/photos/fotos.html .
Some other pictures you can see at http://outeniqua.50webs.com/events/may2005/may292005.html ; not Abel or Lucy but you can see Abel's breeder (the one with the beer-tray) and me with two sisters of Abel: Immer Moed Anne and Immer Moed Amber (Amber scored more than 85% that day at the appraisal!).
Also you'll find pictures at the old site (which is not maintained anymore!): http://members.lycos.nl/boerboelabel .
Can someone tell me what's wrong with the pictures at my site ?
Albert.
http://www.elmwich.org/outeniqua/
boer-boel@lycos.nl
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I own a Central Asian Ovcharka!
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Thanks Donna, Yes they are true angels. I mostly just do bassets but I have grown to love this breed so much I just took in another one (but just as a foster)
He is awesome. Best temperament for the breed . He was dumped at the shelter also and of course I was contacted.lol
His name is Goliath. He towers over and has a greater length than my other 3.
He really is an angel though. He came in with a severe Kennel cough but is on his way to feeling better.We all just love him to death but 3 permanent Filas is more than enough. House is only so big.......lol I am sure we will find a perfect home for him as he has the greatest temperament. He has definitely been kept socialized. (even though he hasn't had the greatest of care).My other babies are doing well .
My Basset hound came in with severe mange about 4 years ago and we go thriough break out here and there. Unfortuantely it really does screw up the immune system
Sandy
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Being Italian I love the corsos. I own a Rottie and 3 Boerboels. Also there are are cane corsos from Morgan in California. Californiacane corso.con
Gerry
Damon
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Zanta
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Bruno 3.5 months in the pic
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Hi,
Did your Fila's come from D.C.? Mine was rescued from there about the same time.
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i am also new to the board. I have a Dogue de Bordeaux and 3 boxers. I am amazed everyday how many pet stores in my area that are popping up with rare breed mastiffs. The pet stores by me have Bordeaux's all the time and now are getting in Italian and argentinian mastiffs too. I am afraid that these rare breeds are going to become common MUCH TOO SOON. Does anyone else notice this happening?
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Unfortunately,
I have to agree that way TOOO many pet stores are popping up with rare Mastiffs. It's been a practice of mine to always contact the petstore and find out who supplied the dogs, that way I can post it all over that they're an unethical breeder. No ethical breeder in their right mind would agree to sell their dogs in a pet store! That alone shows you that the breeder has no concern about where/who their dogs end up-very sad!
My Corso is from Morgan Cane Corso in Italy and we stay in contact constantly directly and through his US contact, California Cane Corso. It's almost to the point that I really wish that the Cane Corso not ever be recognized be the AKC because once it does...all h*ll is going to break loose!! >:( :o
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I too stay in contact with my breeder. I send her pictures and let her know how he is doing and she always makes a point to answer back even if its a "how cute" and thats it. At least you know that they are still checking up.
The pet stores by me (New Jersey) are selling the pups for the same $3500-$4000. I never thought to call and ask I just might start doing that. i really hope that these breeds dont get ruined by these irresponsible people. I know of someone that bought a Bordeaux after they saw my christmas card with all my dogs in it. They went to a pet shop in NY City and the people in the store told them that the dog will never be over 100lbs and he wouldnt drool and he could be left alone for long periods of time. How insane is that. I dont know what breed they were talking about but it certianly was not a bordeaux!! the dog is now a year old and over 100lbs and he drools so the people dont want him anymore!!!!!! It makes me SO MAD. Oh and best of all they told her that the dog was from champion lines --a great breeder!!! I cant understand the nerve of these people.
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Very sad story that I hear on a constant basis. Well, if the dog was from champion lines...hopefu lly they got papers on the dog which will make it a lot easier to sell....?????-I know that's wishful thinking :-\
Here in Seattle, WA...it's starting to become more and more common for people to recognize my Corso, even more common for offers to breed him to Pit Bulls.
I think the only thing to do to help dog lovers/buyes out there, is to let them know that buying a dog is like buying a car. You just don't buy the first one you see.... You check it over, you check around to see what else is out there, you make sure it fits in your budget, you make sure that it's everything that you want.....etc.
Hopefully there will be a happy ending for the Pet Store Mastiff.
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I have to say that I feel that every dog (even a pet store dog) deserves a good home. They dont know where they are from so they dont understand why someone wont want them. But People should know what they are buying. Be aware of your risks. People dont research pets before they just go and buy them. In general my feeling is that buyers and sellers need to be more informed so that educated decisions can be made.
Your guy is beautiful by the way!!!
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i have a fila
she is a great dog
but,,,,,,,,,,as it says not for everyone
her name is tigre you can see all her photos in the rare breed link here on BPO