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: Jakespal July 09, 2007, 08:39:42 AM
    We recently rescued an 8 year old Mastiff named Jake.  Although he belonged to our best friends (and next door neighbors), I have always been Jakes favorite person. This little fact can only mean something to those who are lucky enough to be chosen by one of these incredible creatures. 
    When Jake's owners had to move, it was decided that that move would be to hard on Jake, so he came to live with me. 
   Jake is in very good health despite his advancing years.  However, I do have one little problem regarding Jakes care.  When Jake eats and then drinks,  the food trapped in his cheeks gets  mixed with his drinking water.  This and the DROOL makes the water disgusting and undrinkable.  So I am changing his water 5 or more times a day.  So, how can I fix this? Is it even possible?  Maybe the dirty water wont hurt him a bit.  Could another Mastiff owner tell me what they do about it?  I suspect that many breeds have this problem, but there's just not a lot of information about drool...   I wonder why?   
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: lorim2 July 09, 2007, 08:54:09 AM
Hi there...Welcom e to BPO!  Great Place ...I am still laughing a little at your post because I have a almost 2 yr old OEM named Marley and after he drinks from the bowl everyone runs!!  I dont know if there is a fix for this problem ...I have an auto water and also several large bowls around the house....I fill the auto everyday and change the bowls at least 5 or 6 times a day....Jake is very lucky to have you!  They are awesome babies who are so full of love!  Again welcome...By the way, I am Lori...Marley is just one of many at our house as you will see in my signature!!  Look forward to talking to you
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: Britz July 09, 2007, 09:00:38 AM
I have  no  info on the  subject, but  I wanted to say welcome to the group. Im  britainy  mmommy to  two  human kiddos ethan and Kiera and  One big  fur ball Zeus are Rotti
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: Gevaudan_Jo July 09, 2007, 09:26:08 AM
When we got our first dane PUPPY, the breeder gave us a slop cloth, and said "you will need this" . i find it would be easier to use it to clean the slop from iside his lips than just drool from everywhere else... Maybe u can try that?

welcome to the board.
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: Lyn July 09, 2007, 09:50:15 AM
Ahhh yes the disgusting water bowl. Looks more like raw egg whites with chunks of kibble in it. LOL

Although my Saints have no problem drinking the slime it makes my stomach turn watching them drink it. Blech.. So I empty and refill all water bowls countless times per day. 
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: Newly Newfed July 10, 2007, 01:44:04 AM
Hi and welcome to BPO!  I'm Stephanie, mom the the goofball in my avatar, Sierra.  She's a 5 1/2 month old Newfoundland and the light of my life.  We have many other pets as you can see in my signature below, but Sierra is the reason I ended up here at BPO.

Sierra also gets things caught up in her lips - food, tissues, dirt, leaves, sticks, cat litter...whate ver she's been chewing on, which is pretty much everything.  All of it ends up in her water bowl when she drinks along with a healthy dose of slobber.  I've never owned a Mastiff, but I can say, the hose idea is a good one.  Sierra will drop EVERYTHING and come running when she sees the hose is on.  Other than that I just change her water endlessly throughout the day.

I would guess that drinking their own slobber and pieces of food is fine for them.  Whenever she can sneak it behind my back, Sierra is perfectly happy drinking from our slimy frog pond and she hasn't gotten sick yet.  I have had to fight to keep my lunch down a few times, but she seems to like it!
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: Newly Newfed July 10, 2007, 06:06:35 AM
Aww...poor Rollie!  I wouldn't want to drink out of it either!!!  I see what Sierra's dish looks like and she's still a baby...I can only imagine what the bowls look like after TWO adult Newfs have been in it!
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: Fumble July 10, 2007, 05:57:56 PM
hi!!  welcome jake!!  fumble is the same way, he REFUSES to drink dirty water.. Just ask Kali and Laci's family he tipped over the water bucket every time it got dirty (and it was usually because he put his two front paws in it!) I refill his bowl all the time, although he's sort of anti drinking water right now, and all about getting 8 trays of ice cubes a day.  I think though he may not like the bowl?? HMM. maybe that's my weekend job! 
Definately get a towel and try to catch jake after he eats, then get all the yummy white drool before it gets in the bowl or lands on your or your ceiling (speaking from experience hehe)
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: Sillygoose July 10, 2007, 08:53:50 PM
Hello and welcome to the board. A slop clothe works well for me with my grown pyrs. It gets really messy in the water bowl and I changed the water often. Funny though Tripper has his own bowl of water in the kitchen and refuses to drink fromit, but loves to drink from the big bowl after teh other two have been drinking from it. Yuck!!!!
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: happiday July 10, 2007, 10:08:14 PM
I suspect that many breeds have this problem, but there's just not a lot of information about drool... I wonder why?
Hi, and welcome!  I'm Salli, mom to Annie, a 7yo St. Bernard (rescued in March) and Grace, 6yo Golden Ret. mix.  I don't have experience w/ mastiffs, but I do know about drool, St.-style.  I think it's just one of those dirty little secrets everyone who has 'jowly' breeds knows about, but doesn't like to talk about.  It comes along with that precious, smooshy face!  You get the whole package, good and icky!  I wouldn't trade it for anything!  :)  Don't have a solution, but you've been given much good advice already.  Welcome to BPO!  This place is full of wonderful people.  We'd love to see lots of pics of your guy. 
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: Newly Newfed July 11, 2007, 02:26:56 AM
get all the yummy white drool before it gets in the bowl or lands on your or your ceiling

ugh!  Thanks for the warning of things to come...  I'm sure this will not go over well with my trendy, cares too-much-about-her-appearance 16 yr old daughter!!  I'm just imagining how the world will come to an end when she gets drool on her clothes before a date...
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: Fumble July 11, 2007, 05:44:07 AM
get all the yummy white drool before it gets in the bowl or lands on your or your ceiling

ugh!  Thanks for the warning of things to come...  I'm sure this will not go over well with my trendy, cares too-much-about-her-appearance 16 yr old daughter!!  I'm just imagining how the world will come to an end when she gets drool on her clothes before a date...
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haha! i work with the elderly, and i'm glad they can't see me when i go back to work after my lunch break, esp on these hot days!  drool stains are soo much fun! heHE!
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: Britz July 11, 2007, 06:55:04 AM
Ewwww, hahah!  Well, we don't have droolers in the house but I'd like to welcome you anyway!  I'm Julie, mom to Jackie (border collie mix), Chamonix (Chammie-great pyr/bc), Charge (lab) and Tilly the cat. 

I'm not sure if we are lucky or if our dogs are really nasty (both, maybe?) but our kids drink out of the toilet. They even lift the lid up if it's closed...Nasty, but we keep our toilets REALLY clean because of it.   :P

haha  zeus trys that aswell  One  day  I flushed the toilet  when he was sitting at the door of the bathroom  and it kinda  creeped him out so now he is all iffy  about the scary  toilet bowl
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: stephkt September 03, 2007, 08:10:09 AM
Hi,I have a Mastiff and know exactly what you are talking about. Stone's water gets changed 4 times a day and his bucket gets washed every night.
 Enjoy your wonderful dog, your so lucky he chose you!
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: Imani's Mom September 03, 2007, 06:14:39 PM
I currently have three mastiffs and have, at various times, had up to five in my home.  The water is "served" in 2 gallon stainless steel buckets, elevated off the floor, with a rolled towel around the rim of each bucket, to (hopefully) catch the transferred slime from their faces after a drink.  Ok, so it doesn't always work, but it does cut down the amount we have to wear after each drink.  As for the slime in the buckets, my solution (we are still in the planning stages) is to buy and install one of the new automatic flush toilets just for them; the ones that use a sensor to detect motion and then flush- so each time one of the slimers gets a drink, the slime and goo gets flushed, and the "water bowl" refills with fresh clean water.
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: karateblossom November 25, 2007, 03:15:33 AM
omg....I'm laughing so hard!  we have to change odies water 6-7 times a day for that reason and the fact that he won't even begin to lap a bowl of water that has his drool in it!   recently we moved from city water to a rural coastal town with well water and we had to buy BOTTLED water for our boy.....it took him 6 months to start drinking the well water.  changing his water was expensive at first bcuz we had to change it so often.  as grose as it is......it is what makes them so kewl!
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: slewis December 30, 2007, 02:19:15 PM
Hi  I have a English Mastiff myself and when we first got Titus we got him from a lady who lived in apartments but you are going to ware yourself out changing his water all day long i finally went to the store an bought one of those water dispenser and the sorta cut down on it but not really i wash the bowel out everyother day but i also have 4 other dogs so they dont seem to mind to drink after him.
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: jagersmom December 30, 2007, 05:47:22 PM
HAHAHAHA Jager will slobber all in his water with "floaties" the the cat will come and drink after him. I figure the dog drinks out of the pool and I can't exactly flush that every day so a little drool in his bowl won't kill him  ;)
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: mynameislola December 31, 2007, 10:08:39 AM
Has anyone tried those motion-detecting outdoor dog waterers?  We have used the hose end lickers with great success and are curious how big a mess the automatic ones can be.

Those hose end lickers are great for areas that rarely freeze.  No bowl filling and no drool.  Their main drawbacks include the mess under the spigot and the inability of monitoring fluid intake amounts.  We put the licker up on the lawn so the mess is somewhat contained.

Hubby says to add that watering them mostly outside helps keep the blobs of sandy drool off the walls. 
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: maxsmom December 31, 2007, 01:41:07 PM
Welcome to the group.  I swear Max has holes in his mouth.  He doesn't have the loose jowls of some breeds and doesn't drool, but for every cup that goes in his mouth, 1/4 of it comes back out, food, water, etc.  He is a slob.  I take up all water dishes before I feed them and don't put them back until after everyone has eaten and walked around a bit.  That way I only have to refill water bowls 2 or 3 times a day and change it once.  Jake drools, but doesn't mess up a bowl of water, and Cody doesn't drool unless he is exicted or hot.  John, my oldest cat, drools like a fiend everytime he is being petted or brushed.  I have learned, not to love him too much when he is laying on anything cloth covered, bed, couch, etc.  He will soak the spot where he is laying.  The automatic flushing toilet sounds cool, but our dogs drain the toilet whenever they drink out of it, so for us it would be just refilling it. Congratulation s on your new addition and welcome.
Kathy
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: karateblossom January 12, 2008, 02:32:08 PM
for odin, even the self releasing water disspensers are futile because he refuses to drink the 2" layer of slime at the bottom along with the wobblers floating on top.  He is quite funny, really-he wakes up and tells us "hey guys, gotta pee" then goes to his bowl and gives it the sniff and says "guys, there is drool in my bowl, please change it".  their big jowels n tongues are ironic compared to the amount of water they can actually lap up-and oh yes, the 3x amount that ends up around the dish!  We have graciously come to enjoy this unique mastiff quality.  A  giant bath towel around his water bowel daily helps with the 3/4 lost via his giant face.  I have given up on the "cute little doggie mat" that many pet owners display under their dogs food n water bowl.  There should be a mastiff book of not so pleasantries one must be required to read when bringing an eng mastiff into the home-they aren't  feng shui and will lay in the MIDDLE of your walk space, if you are out side or ANYWHERE they aren't ,they will whine like big ol babies to be with you, wobblers and slingers-need I say more (heaven help u if u have flat paint!), their tongues are big enough and their brains smart enough to clean your plate without evidence if u leave it unattended, 200lb paws hurt, yes my huevos are in the way and uncomfortable for public onlookers but they are mine, I can jump like a rabbit so don't think my size will stop me from catapulting over a 6ft security fence, I NEED something soft and big to lay my body on so if u don't provide your couch cusions will serve my slimy muzzle well-and the topics are endless.  they are a very kewl breed and aside from a dane or irish wolf hound or st bernard or maybe a comodore or a pug (a mastiffs alter ego)  -I don't think I'd own another type of furry family member.
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: pitas January 12, 2008, 02:55:45 PM
Droolers and water slimers unite!  With our 4 Newfie puppers, we have to change the H2O bowls several times a day.  Maddie our one female will absolutely not drink out of a water bowl after one of the others. She will bark, carry on etc...until the water bowl is changed.  When I rinse the bowls and refill them, I make sure she gets water first.  The rest don't care what the water looks like.  Our McKayla pup will even go as far as running on the pool cover if there is even a drop of semi-frozen water.  There is also a hidden water bowl upstairs in one of the bathrooms for Maddie which always has fresh water for her.  Klondike is wise to it now but, has only slimed up that dish once.  He has probably forgotten it's there because he is pretty lazy.  We have contemplated putting an extra heated water dish outside now for winter.  Horses have those heated water buckets so the water doesn't freeze.  We might try that to cut down on the amount of crazy glue drool we find daily on the walls. 

Good luck and if the drool dries on the walls before you find it, use a great deal of elbow grease and warm water, it will come off! 

Anita & the 4 Newfies from NJ
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: navarre1316 January 12, 2008, 03:16:09 PM
HAHAHAHAHA  when I used to read the threads about the droolers, I always thought they've got to kidding!!  Some of the stuff that you wiper-uppers would relate to each other.  BUT now that Axle has infultrated the household, I to have become a wiper-upper!!  Even though he is a gigantic Akita, he has the jowls of a mastiff!!  I now know why people try to find bibs or bandanas, which I thought ridiculous before....but now I have crossed over;
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z149/navarre1316/axle_bib.jpg)

My first experience with the slime in the bottom of the bowl...I have no words.  But, to all the wiper-uppers out there, even when Axle leaves my home, I will always be humbled!! :D
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: karateblossom January 12, 2008, 09:52:27 PM
It is a humbling experience.... ..and to love them so, even after finding the slingers on the ceiling (and your favorite throw pillow or comforter that they managed to maneuver off of the bed for their slime comfort)! If he weren't so darned cute and sweet and goofy.......
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: gredden February 15, 2008, 11:12:54 AM
I have the same problem with Sebastian. There's nothing you can do except change the water.  I get we change his water 5 to 8 times a day. I am very lucky in that Sebastian does not drool except after drinking.
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: marinafb February 17, 2008, 08:31:28 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I got sick of hot foots and kicking the water bowel i put a bucket in the bath tub and that is were the get a drink now. Of course Bryce is the one slobbering up the water and my other 2 do not want to drink after he gets done i do not fill the bucket up all the way because i have to empty the bucket of slobber all the time! Oh well he's lucky i love him!
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: Guardian Angel's White lightning February 17, 2008, 08:51:19 AM
At the hotel this weekend, there was so much drool in the water bowl it clogged the sink!! GROSS..not only that, when i went to change his water bowl, mind you that was half full from what i thought...was all drool..... so grossed out..that is whatcha get though!
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: karateblossom February 17, 2008, 09:18:51 AM
ewwwwwww jaz!  dats nasty!  :)    Have ya ever busted arse because ya slipped one of the piles of slime that accumulate around the drinking dish post drink?  My poor baby gets the "awwweee, oooodiiiinnnnn n!".  He just goes and lays down and watches me.  He can't help it..lol.

Yesterday was monthly wall wiping day for me-slingers always end up in the craziest of places! :)   
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: Ali February 17, 2008, 09:25:33 AM
Feeling luckier than EVER that Tani isn't a drooler... ;)
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: karateblossom February 17, 2008, 09:57:32 AM
Alý it is pretty grose!  :)  My favorite is when he gets a drink and I'm not paying attention and then walks by me for some loving and just about the time I realize he has a 10inch long wobbler hanging on one side he wipes it on me!  He gets the awweeeeeee oooooooddiiiii nnnnnnnnn!   :)
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: Guardian Angel's White lightning February 17, 2008, 02:27:12 PM
He just goes and lays down and watches me. He can't help it..lol.

LOL that is funny... I know Titan lies down and looks at me...but he is sooo Laughing at me inside... i see past that innocent "i can't help it' look.  This weekend we bought him a bib...it is the best thing in the world>... i think that all mastiff owners should go this route. I know that they are mostly for st's and newfies, but mastiffs benefit from it too....it catches the drool before it hits anything...the floor, your legs, shoulders, walls, feet...it protects everything...p lus, it helps when they do have the 10 inch slinger going on...just quickly grab with the towel and go...i will get a pic with him and the bib...it says "drool king" it fits him perfectly!
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: karateblossom February 18, 2008, 10:02:30 AM
Where do you you get a bib?  I sew....could I make one from old towels ya think?  It would be SUCH a life saver and down south where I live, we don't have a lot of pet options (even pet store is 40 mi away and at the cost of gas.....u understand,?)....hehe

A bib!  I have had 5 kids and I never thought!  I have tried bandanas.....n o good.  I'm a ding dong!
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: lorim2 February 18, 2008, 10:57:08 AM
Wow that is a good idea!  I was just saying this weekend that I am about tired of walking past the water bowl and doing the big slip thing...or walking in there with just my socks and ewwwwwwwwww.
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: Guardian Angel's White lightning February 18, 2008, 12:53:06 PM
The bib is a godsend! It is just king sized...the top part of the bib (where you would tie on a baby) is elastic, and the bib part is towel...you want to make the bib so that it can cover the entire chest of your pup..that way when they drink water, the drool just falls on the bib!@!! way cool.i googled it and her is what they look like...titan's looks similar (but says drool king on it)  http://www.bigdogshop.co.uk/big_dog_shop_bibs.htm
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: karateblossom February 18, 2008, 03:53:47 PM
that is cute!  I can so see my big meat head with a bib!  I have a fab pic (darn I wish I could upload pics!) of odin in an aussi hat-it would pair well with a bib! 
I keep hoping he slimes the cat but she only assaults him while he is asleep!  ;)
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: Guardian Angel's White lightning February 18, 2008, 04:54:05 PM
That is so funny...titan does that to  the cat too... he seems to always wrap his wet drooly lips around the cat's head..lol...bu t the cat is far from innocent...tit an will be sleeping, and the  cat will go into "stelth" mode, and sneek up on titan, grab his muzzel and attack...lol. It is so funny to watch... see karma does happen!
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: karateblossom February 21, 2008, 04:39:22 AM
Titan gets cat assaulted too?  Is it not the funniest?  They HAVE to wait til said dog is asleep!  LOL!  My cat is declawed front and back so she is benign.  She is tiny and yet can run him off of every one of his pillows!  Cats!
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: Guardian Angel's White lightning February 21, 2008, 04:54:45 AM
I have movies of the cat assulting a little shar-pei puppy we have. I wish i knew how to download them, they are funny as all. In one movie the cat is attacking her, and then holds the dog down and licks her ear..it is priceless!!!
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: KiraNGunnersmom April 26, 2008, 02:18:56 AM
UGH,  Gunner is only 9 weeks old (10 weeks on wed.) and I change his bowl often because of all the floaters I see after he drinks. I can only imagine how much worse it's going to get as he gets older. Kira(akita)has her own bowl of water and drinks frequently from it with no problems and I change it and wash it every evening.  yesterday Gunner drank from her bowl and when he was done she came behind him looked in the bowl sniffed and made a noise that I swear sounded like a sigh and went to the bathroom and drank out of the TOILET!!