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Great Pyrenees => Great Pyrenees Discussions => : London_Pyr_Lover August 29, 2007, 08:11:43 AM
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Just had a few questions about growth. First when should I expect Naja to start loosing her baby teeth, and having her grown up teeth grow in? She's got an awfully long snout and her little baby teeth are getting pretty few and far between if ya know what I mean. lol. Also, when do you think I can expect her fur to fill in a bit, like her mane and tail? Every picture I've seen of grown up Pyr's they have these beautifull long manes, and tails that could sweep the floor. I'm getting jealous of Yukon and Yiska! lol
Also, I've gone a bought a GIANT bag of Canadaie All Stages, but I forgot to make sure it was Large Breed before I left the store, and lo and behold when I emptied it into her food holder thingy it didn't say large breed anywhere on the bag. Hmph! Should I go back and get another bag? or is this one okay? It's like 40 lbs of food, so I'd hate to waste it, but I definately can't take it back. lol
Okay!!! Thanks
oh PS, more pictures of Naja to come soon. Must figure out how to get them from my cell phone to the computer!
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That beautiful mane you talk about doesn't fully come in for a long time and not nearly so much on the females The males get a glorious (and PIA) mane. I'm not sure how old she is but they first start getting their adult hair down their back as puppies. They have a big pouf of hair on their head which really looks silly (we call it the big bird look) until they are a year or more. Pretty much by the time they are 12-18 months you can see what their adult coat would look like and it seems to become more glorious and profuse each year. It seems the females also have a big blow of their coat sometime after their first year and before they are 2 in which they positively get naked and then the true adult coat comes in after.
I wouldn't take the food back- it is just important that your puppy is not overfed or overweight - one bag of food won't do it
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I feed Canidae also and I don't believe they have a large breed product. I too feed the All Life Stages to my pup she is 10wks.
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So would you say I should continue feeding her what I do for the LB Puppy about 3-4 cups a day? (it's what the bag suggests.
Oh yeah, she's 17 weeks and 2 days old! ;D And she's cute as a button! and a PIA. I left her out of her crate last night cause she looked so sad and lonely in there (I know I'm a sucker for a pretty face ::)), and she pooped in my closet!! Little stinker, I even had her out last night before bed, she pooped then too. Oh well. Guess that'll learn me.
I love her to pieces though, she get's smarter and more independant every day, she's only 4 months old and already has a mind of her own. I could go on for days, but I'll stop now. he he he ;D
Thanks for the advice on her coat, I can't wait till she's all grown up and has all that long beautiful hair. I still love every day of puppy hood too though. Ha ha one big walking contradiction I am eh? ;D
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Well that sounds right they go by weight and Phoebe is about 20ish lbs and she get 1 1/2cups/day split up 3times/day I will increase her to 1 3/4 probably today I need to check her weight again that should be fun. ??? How much does Naja weigh? Phoebe is in her crate next to our bed and she is certainly busy at night she wakes every 3hrs or so and plays my husband threatens to put her downstairs >:( (that will never happen)
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Well that sounds right they go by weight and Phoebe is about 20ish lbs and she get 1 1/2cups/day split up 3times/day I will increase her to 1 3/4 probably today I need to check her weight again that should be fun. ??? How much does Naja weigh? Phoebe is in her crate next to our bed and she is certainly busy at night she wakes every 3hrs or so and plays my husband threatens to put her downstairs >:( (that will never happen)
When I had her to the vet I guess that was wow like a month ago :o, it doesn't feel like that long ago. lol Anyways ;D, she was 28.4 lbs, so I'm guessing she's got to be between 30-35 ish now. I'm told that when she's about a year old to cut her down to adult portions (Half of what she gets now) so she doesn't get fat.
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I wouldn't worry about the amount you feed. Pyr puppies almost never over eat. I free fed Lily since the day I brought ger home and she is stayes lean. Even when she was on 100% raw she would leave her favorite meats when she is full. Also, the benefit of free feeding is that when puppies have their growth sperks they eat more...that way they can help themselfs ;)
Talking about adult coats...Lily had a glorious coat when she was 9 months old. Then at 11 months she went bold!!! I swear, some people even thought she is Golden Retreiver but mostly Kuvasz ;D Now, at 14 months, she is finally getting her coat back! I am soooo tired of vacuuming >:(
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I just remember starting them out slowly as pups cause it took awhile fo them to really eat much of anything and then they started to increase their amt- eating it all very fast and wanting more..so I would up it. The most they've ever eaten in a day is 4 cups of food, split between 2 feedings..Yuko n was up to about almost 5 at one poiint, but not Yiska..she used to be the lighter eater. Then they slacked off, then on..it's back and forth with them. We now give them each 2 cups at breakfast and they may or may not touch it, and what they don't eat, they eat for dinner- so all in all they *maybe* eat 2 cups a day now! I tell ya what though, that 40 lbs is sure lasting us this time haha. Yiska started chowing down and Yukon slacked off, but with his injury it's hard to tell what's causing it. I know he dropped 10 lbs and it seems he is trying to put it back on.
The food you got is the right kind, that's what mine eat. They don't make a large breed food..the protein is just fine in the All Stages for her.
What else, OH..yeah their grown up teeth just came in overnight, it was really weird. One day I noticed their gums were bleeding and how many teeth they DIDN'T have and next time I looked, they were all filled in! They just turned 8 mos and have had all their big teeth for awhile. Their coats are definitely changing but of course, nowhere near what their adult coats will be- and I'm thankful lol..enjoy her puppy fur, it's much harder to deal with their adult fur now! I can only imagine how much harder it will be. Yiska has gotten some of her mane, and it's hard to brush that. Yukon's is really starting to come in and no matter how much I brush it, it feels like I didn't bruh it at all. Someone already mentioned, the females won't get the very thick manes and coats. Yiska's coat is totally different than Yukon's, it's like flatter and thinner and -easier! lol. Yukon is a big fluffy polar bear, you can search for miles before finding skin haaaaaa.
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Merri and Annie both eat 4 cups a day. Tripper was eating almost 6 cups but is now not eating as much. I guess he isn't in a growth spurt right now, so I'm free feeding him right now. His baby teeth are starting to drop and the big ones are almost in. He turned 5 months on the 16th ao f August. He weighs close to 60lbs right now. I thought he was small. But I'm guessing he isn't. He isn't overweight either.
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Merri and Annie both eat 4 cups a day. Tripper was eating almost 6 cups but is now not eating as much. I guess he isn't in a growth spurt right now, so I'm free feeding him right now. His baby teeth are starting to drop and the big ones are almost in. He turned 5 months on the 16th ao f August. He weighs close to 60lbs right now. I thought he was small. But I'm guessing he isn't. He isn't overweight either.
60lb for 5 months old is pretty good! He is definitely not small :)
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Yeah, blowing coat is fun :) Luckly it's only twice a year. :) We didn't take Dixie to a majors show in Atlanta because she's blown her coat..:( She stood to finish!
Twice??? Did you say twice??? Oh, noooo! I was hoping it is only ones before the summer >:(
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Merri blows her coat twice a year. Annie blows all the time. She is fixed and I was told that fixed females will blow all the time and she does. I never get a break from the broom or vacumm.
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Merri blows her coat twice a year. Annie blows all the time. She is fixed and I was told that fixed females will blow all the time and she does. I never get a break from the broom or vacumm.
So when is it? Spring and fall? Spring and Summer?
I had collies and a newf before and they always shed in the spring only ;D
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I love it!!! I love hearing about all the Pyr Pups (and other pups of course!) that have grown up on BPO! Hearing about what I have to look forward to! I'm sad that Naja won't get the polar bear coat, but I guess that just means when I go back to BC and buy a house, I'll just have to get a male Pyrenees! ;D
After all Naja needs a buddy! ;) And as if I wasn't before I got Naja, but now I'm completely head over heels for this breed.
So I'm less anxious now that I know her teeth are normal and that any day now, I'm gonna start seeing more teeth in her head (It's so cute when she gives me that big toothy grin, her teeth are so far apart she almost looks like a doggie Jack-O-Lantern). I am beginning to see some growth as of last night. But now I'm wondering about the food. cause it's as though she's ALWAYS hungry. You'd think I was starving her the way she wolfs down her food at breakfast, lunch and dinner. I just don't think I trust her enough to not eat everything in sight if I were to try free feeding her. Hmmmmm... ???
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So when is it? Spring and fall? Spring and Summer?
I had collies and a newf before and they always shed in the spring only ;D
Annie all year long! and Merri blows early spring just before show season and september again jsut before the shows. So everyone point that girl has, she got out of coat!
She always looked bald going into the ring. Also I think it's following her heats. She is season righ tnow so I'm betting she's going to blow right after just in time for our shows here.
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Lisa's 3 pyrs blow their coats 2x a year.
My two blow theirs 2x a year You know it when they do it too. House looks like a Flowbee came thru and chopped their hair off. You rub them or pet them and wind up with a handful of hair. I do a LOT of brushing during those times and a lot of sweeping/vacuuming :)
Are they fixed? If so why is it ANnie seems to be blowing all the time? I've always got them up on the table grooming them.
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I don't like all the blowing coat talk lol. Mine have blown theirs each once, course they are just pups. I don't even remember when it was now. Thank god I've got a good vacuum.
I really don't think Naja would overstuff herself. I've never seen mine eat more than they needed. They won't turn down a treat, but they definitely seem to have portion control over their meals. I'm sure she is just needing to eat that much right now, she's still very young. Mine were going through A LOT of food still at that age. Half the time now I forget to feed them because it seems they could really take it or leave it. I assume they have plateaued a bit in their growth, I don't know. I thought surely Yukon would hit 100 by a year old..I thought that was kinda normal for a male but he's got a very long ways to go if that's the case.
Tripper seems right on track. Yukon was only about 70 or so before he hurt himself and stopped eating, at 8 mos. Yiska is the same, only on a much smaller frame, but neither of them are overweight, however that works.
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Here's a pic of Yukon with his jack-o-lantern teeth too lol. He was 5 mos old here.
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and 2 mos later..
big difference huh?
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I'd say! Man they grow fast. Makes me sad to see Tripper loose his puppy fuzz and baby teeth. It's something you never get again with the same dog.
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They are so cute I just want to eat them up!!!
Sorry, I'm at work, and whenever I see a picture I have to get everyone around to come look (of course I'm the only one in a fuss about it but whatever, they're too cute).
When did your guys get their tails, cause Naja's is still kinda wirey and not fluffy... ???
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At 6-7 months their tales get really fluffy ;)
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yea i never even noticed about the tails lol..i'm so observant i know. one day they were fluffy i guess lol...ill have to look back at pics and dates, that's how i remember really haha.
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Yeah 6-7 months seems right. Here is Yiska's tail at 4 mos and then 6 mos.. lol, you love all my comparison pics dont you? :P
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lol, i love pyrs... but this whole coat blowing is EXACTLY why i didnt get one lol. ;D the hhhhhhhhhhaaaa aaaaaiiiiiirrr rr! i would just go nuts!
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lol, i love pyrs... but this whole coat blowing is EXACTLY why i didnt get one lol. ;D the hhhhhhhhhhaaaa aaaaaiiiiiirrr rr! i would just go nuts!
lol i know. one of the requirements on my list for a dog when we were searching breeds was SHORT HAIR, EASY grooming that wasn't time consuming..and looked what i ended up with. :P not even one, but TWO! if they weren't the sweetest (and best) dogs i've ever had, i'd go completely batty with the hair. i'm a clean freak and have a tiny house- that's A LOT of hair in a small space. :o but after researching and learning about them, i just had to have one, or i guess two lol.
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Here is Lily at 7 months with her tail. She did have enourmous amount of hair though
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Wow, that's a well groomed dog. My dogs have never gotten that fluffy lol. You need to come groom mine too. ;D I'd love to see them professionally done- maybe some day.
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Wow, that's a well groomed dog. My dogs have never gotten that fluffy lol. You need to come groom mine too. ;D I'd love to see them professionally done- maybe some day.
I have heard that regular grooming improves blood circulation and makes hair grow much faster ;)
For as many fluffy doggies I had in my life I should have open a grooming place myself ;D
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Oh Lily is just beautiful! Beautiful coat too!
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Wow, that's a well groomed dog. My dogs have never gotten that fluffy lol. You need to come groom mine too. ;D I'd love to see them professionally done- maybe some day.
I have heard that regular grooming improves blood circulation and makes hair grow much faster ;)
For as many fluffy doggies I had in my life I should have open a grooming place myself ;D
The hair is exactly one of the reasons I enjoy the breed. I can't explain why, but I love brushing out that full thick coat, twice to three times a week. It's one of the single most relaxing things to do!
In the meantime, Cloud ends up looking quite dapper.
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But now I'm wondering about the food. cause it's as though she's ALWAYS hungry. You'd think I was starving her the way she wolfs down her food at breakfast, lunch and dinner. I just don't think I trust her enough to not eat everything in sight if I were to try free feeding her. Hmmmmm... ???
I feed Miles Canidae too.
Last time he was at the vet he only weighed 11 pounds (that was a couple weeks ago at 9 weeks).But since then he has been treated for the bulk of his problem (hookworms). So I'm hoping he starts gaining soon! He's so skinny!
And ALWAYS hungry. I feed him at least 2 cups a day now (the recommended for his weight on Canidae is like 1 1/4 cups)
I don't really trust him with free feeding either. He'd probably eat the entire bowl of food in one sitting! But I don't know how much to give him.....Especi ally since I'm trying to help him gain weight. haha
How much do you feed your girl in comparison to her weight?
Look how skinny his leg is with no hair!!! :o
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But now I'm wondering about the food. cause it's as though she's ALWAYS hungry. You'd think I was starving her the way she wolfs down her food at breakfast, lunch and dinner. I just don't think I trust her enough to not eat everything in sight if I were to try free feeding her. Hmmmmm... ???
I feed Miles Canidae too.
Last time he was at the vet he only weighed 11 pounds (that was a couple weeks ago at 9 weeks).But since then he has been treated for the bulk of his problem (hookworms). So I'm hoping he starts gaining soon! He's so skinny!
And ALWAYS hungry. I feed him at least 2 cups a day now (the recommended for his weight on Canidae is like 1 1/4 cups)
I don't really trust him with free feeding either. He'd probably eat the entire bowl of food in one sitting! But I don't know how much to give him.....Especi ally since I'm trying to help him gain weight. haha
How much do you feed your girl in comparison to her weight?
Look how skinny his leg is with no hair!!! :o
Poor Baby Mile!!!
Okay, well I feed Naja about 4 - 5 cups of food a day. This has stopped her from wolfing the food down like vacuum, but she still eats everything in front of her. She's putting on more weight every day, but I still have the food mixed with her old stuff (Nutra Natural Choice LB Puppy). It's at a half and half mix now but in the morning I give her 1 cup of the mix and 1 cup all Canadaie. Lunch and Dinner time she gets the mix about 1 1/2 cups of it. She must be at at least 35 lbs now. It's getting hard for me to pick her up, and when she jumps up her front paws reach almost to my chest! I hope that Miles is able to pack the pounds back on quickly. How are his evergy levels? Is he back to his old self?
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Ahh. ok ok. So Naja eats a decent amount. Do you have any recent pics of her!? I'd love to seee!!!
I think I'm going to start giving Miles more when he "asks" for it. He just goes so crazy over mealtime, and always wants more. I think I'll gradually add more to his diet. Can't hurt him any right? I mean, if he was overweight that'd be one thing, but he's definitely not!
And he's doing much better. Being the crazy ol' pup he once was. I think he's even more hyperactive and playful than before. The one thing he's really into these days his BITING me. hahah. He's just playing, but it hurts SO bad. And he doesn't stop. I've tried everything. Although, spraying him with water seems to be doing something....h ahaha He just looks at me like...why did you do that!?
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Hee hee hee!!! ;D
That's SOOO cute!! Try alittle viniger or lemon juice in the spray bottle, I've seen alot of improvement with Naja since I started doing that, Just a little squirt in the mouth, she hates it and will stop mouthing. When she stops I always give her a small treat and or lots and lots of praise!
I don't see anything wrong with upping his food intake at all. I think if he's that skinney and that hungry he probably needs it. Try moving him up to 3 cups a day and see how his little tummy likes that. I always feed more in the morning cause I figure that's when I'm the hungriest, so why wouldn't she be? It is the longest period between meals. And this way Naja doesn't freak out like she used to when I'd call her for lunch.
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Jack's adult coat started to come in around 6 months. The hair down the center of his back went from being fluffy to more silky and quite wavy and that texture is spreading to the rest of his body. Over the last couple of months (6 to 8 months old) his tail keeps getting bigger and bigger! He's also getting quite a "mane" as well. He had all his adult teeth by about 6 - 7 months. He weighed 22 lbs at 2 months, 45 lbs at 4 months, 60 ish lbs at 6 months and is now 92 lbs at 8 1/2 months).
Here's a pic from last weekend - you can't see his front end, but you can see his giant tail!
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Jack's adult coat started to come in around 6 months. The hair down the center of his back went from being fluffy to more silky and quite wavy and that texture is spreading to the rest of his body. Over the last couple of months (6 to 8 months old) his tail keeps getting bigger and bigger! He's also getting quite a "mane" as well. He had all his adult teeth by about 6 - 7 months. He weighed 22 lbs at 2 months, 45 lbs at 4 months, 60 ish lbs at 6 months and is now 92 lbs at 8 1/2 months).
Here's a pic from last weekend - you can't see his front end, but you can see his giant tail!
lol, I have just a heck of a time brushing out Yukons tail! And his mane? My lord, it never feels brushed no matter how many times I go through it. His coat is soooooooooooo thick, I prefer Yiska's who's is flat and wavy and not NEARLY as thick. His weight seems to follow Yukon's until the end there he totally packed it on huh? After seeing pics of him, Yukon doesn't look filled out at all. I used to think Yukon was bulky but wow, not compared to Jack.
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Our Charlie is 22 weeks old and he only weighs 30 lbs...is that rather small? Could it have something to do with his HOD? He can't exercise much because of it, and he eats less when he isn't feeling well.
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Yes, he is pretty small for 22 weeks. Don't you worry though, he will catch up soon enough ;)
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I free feed my pups from the time they are weaned and they each generally consume about 5-6 cups a day PLUS 1 pound of meat and or other supplements such as yogurt etc a day. Some of the pups eat about 8 cups some eat about 4-5 cups. There are no fat puppies here and I find that they self regulate quite nicely. Pups at 8 weeks old generally weigh about 18-20 pounds and at 6 months old are 60 plus pounds. By free feeding I am then assured that they have adequate nutrition on board for their growth needs and we essentially have no orthopedic problems. The main thing is a high quality food and the puppy in a lean but not thin condition- whatever amount of food that accomplishes that. Another way to feed is to put enough food in the bowl that there is a little left over when he is finished eating- works if you don't have a little pig!