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BPO Rainbow Bridge Forum => Remembering those no longer with us. => : tanimara July 25, 2005, 12:35:18 PM
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I hate to write this as much as I hated to talk to Chelle this morning. We lost Arwen and her brother Aragorn to the heat this weekend. I dont know how to say it any other way.
The heat here this weekend was 105 with moderate humidity. They were in the pasture with the other dogs and goats. Pleanty of shade, pleanty of water and a pond. At noon they were ok and at 6 pm they were both dead.
There are times when we do all we can and try to do it right. Often we can look back and see what we could have done differently. But not this time. Short of moving all the dogs (8 of them) into the house with AC, there was nothing I could do or could have forseen. Because if I could have forseen this they would have all been in the house.
Todd and I have broken hearts as do Chelle and Randy, who were taking Arwen home with them this month.
Chelle and I have talked at length this am and cried together over this. Pippin, Arwen and Aragorn's brother, did not seem to be effected by the heat, nor did the other dogs or goats.
The heat continues today and tomorrow here in the midwest with a break coming hopefully Tuesday night or Wednesday. So take extra precautions with your animals this week. I did, but it did not help..... :'(
Jackie
Pic: Dutch (Nubian) Aragorn and Arwen on the right
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That is so sad. Hugs and prayers to everyone. :'(
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I'm so sorry for your loss, Jackie. It's so hard to predict what is going to happen when you do everything you can to make them comfortable outside. With the shade the water and, especially a pond to cool off in, I would think they would have been fine, too - despite the heat.
Maybe it was something else, but despite the reason, your broken heart remains just as full of pain. They look like such sweet angels.
We're all here weeping with you.
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OMG! I am so sorry for both you and Gypsy! So, so sad!!
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I am so sorry Jackie. I am in shock, I wish there were some words to help. Please let us know if there is anything we can do for you.
Lisa, Dixie Darlin, and Sugar Bear
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That is so sad.Im so sorry for your loss.They were so beautiful!Ill say a prayer for you and your family.
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I am sooo sorry for your loss I know how much she meant to you an Chelle. My prayers are with you
Nina
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I am so sorry to hear that.
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I too am at a loss for words. Jackie and Chelle, I am so sorry to hear of such a sad thing, and this truly brings tears to my eyes. You are all in my thoughts and prayers today.
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Ty everyone...As I think you all know, in my heart, Arwen was already mine...She just didn't live her yet...She will always live in my heart...I am going to take one of the many pics that Jackie sent to me...You know the one...Arwen grinning up at the camera & have my neighbor print it out on photo paper & she will have her place next to Samson on the fireplace mantle as it should be...Funny, but it's like Samson knows...I know he knows I am grieveing but I think it is even more than that...It is as if he understands... I sit on the couch & he lays his big ol' head on my knee & looks up to me as if to say, "I will miss her too Mama"...Normally Samson isn't a laying the head on the knee kind of dog...Today I grieve for Arwen, for Aragorn, for Pippin, the brother left alone, for Jackie & Todd...I am so very sorry...& I grieve for us...My children are handling the news well as children will & have reached out to me in their sweet little way which makes me so very proud of them...Randy is also saddened but is also trying to comfort me...I want to add a big ty to Jackie for delivering this sad news to me the kindest way possible & for crying with me over our little girl...Rest in peace baby girl...We all loved you so...I take comfort knowing you right next to your brother Aragorn as you were while you were here with us...Keep room at The Bridge for me little one....& Jackie, please don't feel badly...You couldn't have known & did everything you could to provide Arwen & Aragorn with comfort from the heat...You are one of the most tuned in & caring dog lovers that I have ever met! ((((((Jackie))))))
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OMG Gypsy! You are so sweet and so strong. Your kind words to Jackie and Arwin and your thoughtfulness made me cry so much! I am sure that Samson knows and that he too is grieving for his sister.
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This is SO sad :'(
I am sorry for your loss. Both tanimara and gypsy.
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I would like to take the time to reply to each and everyone of your posts but considering how many of you have shown us support that would be hard to do. So may I just say thank you for the support, hugs, and emails I've gotten, not to mention the phone calls from Chelle. She just called and then I read your posts here and now Im crying again! Damn it!
Arwen was one of those very special dogs. Not because I lost her but because she was just special. She had the tempermant of her ancestor Wolf. Very quiet, very docile, very loving, and at 5 mo I was very attached to her to say the least. Aragorn too but Arwen was just so special and she spent more time in the house with us as Aragorn was to be a guardian.
As a breeder of Pyrs for 20 years, I have lost puppies over the years as any breeder will at times. You get use to loosing the very little ones to some extent. But when you have bonded with them like I did with Arwen it's a different story.
I can only say this that Chelle has been very supportive to me instead of the other way around. She and Randy both have touched my heart. So with her decision to take Arwen's brother Pippin it has helped me some. To know that he is going to this very loving home. For those of you who have seen Lord of The Rings, I think you can picture Pippin's personality. I think Chelle is in for a treat with Pippin and I think it was meant to be that he go to live with Chelle and Randy and their wonderful family.
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How old were these puppies?
Puppies have more trouble regulating their body temperature in the heat, and so do older dogs.
Pyrs have been bred with the coat to be LGDs in mountainous terrain where they probably usually work in cooler temperatures.
I'm so sorry for your loss, they were 2 lovely puppies.
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Wrong picture of Pippin, try this one.
Jackie
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Jackie, It was evident from the first time that I spoke to you how special Arwen was & how very much you loved her...It is just one fo the things that impressed me about you not only as a breeder but as a person...Yes, we will take Pippin into our lives & our hearts...I just see so much of Arwen in him...How could I not love him?...He has lost his sister & brother...So very sad...I know that Arwen would have wanted it this way...Ty Jackie for everything & ty to all of B.P.'s for being here for us!
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Oh NOOOOOO!!!!!!
I just read on the bottom of the page that we lost a member and then found out who! Poor little babies!! The heat is really getting scary!! Hang in there everyone, and let's all keep our sweeties cool and safe! I'm so sorry you had to go through this Tanimara! :'(
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 I would like to take the time to reply to each and everyone of your posts but considering how many of you have shown us support that would be hard to do.Â
You don't worry about us Jackie. It is time for us to be here for you, not the other way around.
Dance like nobody's watching; love like you've never been hurt. Sing like nobody's listening; live like it's heaven on earth."
-- Mark Twain
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I have been crying 15 min straight, since I logged on and read that we have lost two more BPO dogs. Chelle and Jackie, I am thinking of you both and your families. I can relate to how very traumatic it must have been to find them. Chills went through my body and it was like going back in time when I found Buffy. There is so much you ask yourself when something like this happens, so many if's you wonder over. But there is no way we can foresee everything. Sometimes life is just horribly unfair and devestating.
Sweet little Aragorn and Arwen, have a safe crossing and there will be several dogs there to meet and greet you, and play with you. Your human families will miss you badly, but you already knew that. You knew how loved you were and that they would do anything to make your stay here longer if they could.
Know that they passed happy, they were together, they knew just how loved they were and even if there stay here was way too short, they touched soooo many people. They are missed by people who never even met them, people who never got to pet them cry over them and pray for them. They know that and can be proud of having had the good life they had, even though way too short.
Lots and lots of huggs from me, Hera, Galahad and Zeus
Marit
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I am so glad to hear that something beautiful is flowering from something tragic, and that little Pippin will have a new home with a loving family.Â
He is a very lucky pup to come from such a great place and to go to another one. Jackie and Chelle, you are both very special people.Â
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You guys are too awesome!...I don't think I have ever seen a better bunch of people in one place at one time...Not even church...lol.. .Getting Pippin is bittersweet... He is adorable & I fell in love with him when I got that pic Jackie sent today...It didn't hurt that I had Arwen whispering into my heart that I should take him home & love him as I would have her...I will always look at him & remember Arwen though...I guess that's not such a bad thing. :) For some reason it must have been Pippin that was meant to be here all along or Arwen would have stayed...I am going to go eat something & take a nap now...I feel absolutely drained...It's been a very emotional day...Ty all for being here!
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Our hearts go out to you. I know it is very unusual for it to get that HOT where you live and the humidity makes it worse. Alas, just when we least expect it -bam. We are so sorry and are thinking of all of you.
Peggy
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Every time I stop crying, I read something that set me off again. Yes Gyp..... I am sure it was meant this way, Pippin is a very lucky puppy and I know that Arwen would want it that way.
You are such a good person with such a big heart.
Marit
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How old were these puppies?
Puppies have more trouble regulating their body temperature in the heat, and so do older dogs.
Pyrs have been bred with the coat to be LGDs in mountainous terrain where they probably usually work in cooler temperatures.
I'm so sorry for your loss, they were 2 lovely puppies.
Ty Red...They were beautiful...No w to answer your questions...Th e pups were 5 months old...Jackie has been breeding Pyrs for 20 yrs. without any other incidents such as this...She knows her dogs...Yes, Pyrs were bred origionally for mountainous terrain & the like climate but they are used all over as LGD's...I got Samson from a woman who has sheep near here...it gets hot & humid in Iowa in the summer...Her dogs live...I don't know why this happened to Arwen & Aragorn but I have come to know, respect, & like Jackie...I stand behind her & her dogs 100%.
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i am so incredibly sorry that this happened to you! i don't know you guys beyond reading your posts on here, but i couldn't help but sit here and cry over the loss of your two beautiful dogs. just know that their sweet spirits will always live on, in all of your hearts as well as somewhere out there, having fun playing, chasing goats, together forever.