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Newfoundlands => Newfoundland Discussions => : AnnaCrew December 20, 2007, 03:38:50 PM

: To adopt 7 y o ?
: AnnaCrew December 20, 2007, 03:38:50 PM
I know, I'm mad but here at present moment a 7 yo certified therapy dog - Cecil need home ASAP and I applied. Before me is another potential adoptee but there are suspicions that it will not work.

So, if tomorrow I will say yes, what I must to know for 7 yo Newf girl?

She is quaified therapy dog, even quite famous here, and if she is coming to my house, she deserves to be pampered, poor old homeless lady.

I do not expect any beheivior problems, but would like to get from you other possible hickups - never adopted senior dog into my household.

I already have 1 GSD bitch who might be quite bitchy and 2 GSD boys who will adore here, I'm sure. We also have my rescue Grace - she is 10-11 month old girl, she is still a puppy so that can not be a problem.

Please, all suggestions and if you have an idea that it will not work, then say it too. I'm open for any ideas.
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: London_Pyr_Lover December 20, 2007, 03:47:38 PM
I just want to say.  Anna.  You are my hero!  You have room and love to spare to the unfortunate animals who would otherwise not know the loving touch of a human hand again.  If I end up being half the good person you are, I'll have done just fine. :D  :D 
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: Tazz December 20, 2007, 03:48:09 PM
Congratulation s!! Wonderful you are willing to take an older dog into your home.

I don't have e newf (yet, someday)but I do know when you introduce the dogs you should do it in a netural area...park, parking lot ect. A long walk for all the dogs prior to that is also a recommendation I see alot to tire them out.

Good luck and keep us posted please!
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: AnnaCrew December 20, 2007, 03:53:38 PM
Noo, for my dogs it does not work - we must act opposite! New dog stright into the house and voila - say hello to the new doggy! :D

Outside my dogs can become territorial a bit, but any dog inside - it is ok, then they know that we want it to be like that and they can go stright outside and play.

We are the bosses and if we invited dog in, then our dogs tolerate it, no problem. (Last weekend we had 32 dogs into our house and later they were all playing outside like loonies - it was great fun, my pack is well socialized, and friendly).

I'm more worried about specific needs and beheivior of an old lady -  what I must to expect and respect? She will be one stressed.
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: AnnaCrew December 20, 2007, 04:03:21 PM
Noo, I'm not a hero, I'm a fool, to be honest! But I have a large house, large garden and dog loving husband (it is quite unusual, but if it would be his will, here would be even more pets), so I'm just lucky - it would be bad not to share it - you know, they make house much warmer and cozier. So I'm one who is gaining.

I'm not really keen on this dog, because we have maybe only 10 qualified therapy dogs in the whole country so it will be selfish to take the dog in just for myself, if somebody who has disabled child and would like to take her would apply. I am only the second choice, if such will be needed.

It will be decided tomorrow, but I already want to get ready for it. In case as Christmas at my house is not the most calmest time of the year - my 5 yo niece will be here, my mum with her Datchund and my friend with her own Weim, poodle that she is fostering while owners on hols and another Weim teenager that she is planning to pick up tomorrow. So on Monday will be a bedlam here - not very calm adoption day, but the family where dog is now, what to get rid of her ASAP. So it is a bit rush situation and not time for choices and considering then.
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: AnnaCrew December 20, 2007, 04:07:42 PM
Thank you for idea. I will at least put in the bedroom door in case if she will like to stay alone as I do not haveany crates - so far did not needed them. I have onecrate for smaller critters, like cats after op or so, kept a toyterrier mix puppy there at night as he was very active and i worried that my large pack can step accidentaly on him at night, but Newfie probably will be not able to stuck her head into it. But seperate room, yes, it might help her to settle in.

What else?
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: AnnaCrew December 20, 2007, 04:19:54 PM
She is the bitch, so probably she will get wel with my male dogs. She is not spayed (by some reasons, I do not know), and my femape spayed bitch can be quite bitchy sometimes.

When Grace arrived she even attacked her few times not in a playful mode, and needed serious telling off for such beheivior.

As Newfy is a teraphy dog, for years working with disabled children, she may be overprotective alfa, so, yes, you are right, pack dynamic will change and it can create some arguments...

Peeing in the house is priority of nmy St.Bernard rescue - she spent her whole life on chain outside, so she is somewhere at the end of hosetraining - she still has minor accidents in the house after two months of training.

This girl was spending her days at kindergartens, hospitals and families with disabled children so probably housetraining will be not on the top of the list. See, so far she was treated quite well, except the fact that she was passed from family to family, without having herown home and proper owner - that is the devastating part. But in general she is really sweet, very well socialized and trained dog.



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: shine December 20, 2007, 04:30:11 PM
I have a large house, large garden and dog loving husband (it is quite unusual, but if it would be his will, here would be even more pets

Uh....does he have a brother?? LOLOL!! (ssssshhhh....d on't tell my husband I said that!)

I can't help but wonder....how did a registered therapy Newf end up in this situation?  I always thought people who put in the time and effort to train a therapy dog were not the kind to get rid of them easily. How did she end up being passed from home to home?
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: maxsmom December 20, 2007, 04:40:24 PM
I think you are doing a great thing. She has obviously earned her retirement so to speak.  I believe in starting out the way I mean to go with my dogs.  They come into the house, have to live with everyone else and if they need time alone, they have to find "their" place.  I will feed them a few feet apart if need be, but that is it.  I don't crate them and don't put them in separate rooms.  I have had to reinforce potty habits with a newbie, but that is about it.  The pack dynamics will change with every new addition, but the dogs sort that out rather quickly.  I don't interfere.  If she is not spayed, you will probably not have to deal with much in terms of a senior female.  As long as she is healthy, you should be home free.  I would just set aside some time for loving and reassuring her and go on with life.  The sooner she accepts that nothing unusual or too demanding of her, the quicker she will be able to relax and enjoy her new life with you.  Sounds like she is going to be getting a fantastic new life for Christmas.
Kathy
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: AnnaCrew December 20, 2007, 04:44:22 PM
I do not know the details, but the whole situation sounds a bit fishy to me. As ar as i now, dog do not have individual owner, dog had been donated to NGO which do the therapy job, and the whole thing was supervised by the doctor to whom I had contacted.

So when the training process was completed, dog had been borrowed by the family with disabled child who need such therapy and the whole thing was superwised by the organisation. The last time dog was given to the family who already wanted to keep her forewer, but something has changed and now family wants dog out ASAP. As organisation had not planned new family for this dog, they have no where to place it.

But the whole idea of borrowing dog for 2 months sounds crazy to me, and living without her own house and her own family - even more mad. so maybe I do not know the real story. Let's see.

I talked with her breeder today and she is high class PB dog with wonderful pedigree, great health list and so on... So probably she will be ok, not an old grumpy lady but more soocial butterfly without personal attitude.

Melissa, I am not even accepted yet andI agree that if there will be found today a family with disabled child, then they have priority as trained therapy dog is a treasure here even at such age.

 
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: happiday December 21, 2007, 05:33:08 AM
Anna, what a wonderful opportunity for her to be well-loved!  How sad, though, that the current 'family' wants her out ASAP!  My Annie (saint) is also 7 y.o.  She has been with us since March.  I think the old ladies appreciate a nice, loving 'retirement home'.  Annie likes to be near me and is just happy being loved.  She came from a neglectful situation, abuse, really.  I think this gal will thrive in your loving home!
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: Pyr Heaven December 21, 2007, 02:52:50 PM
Do you know if you'll get her or not? I really hope you do. She deserves a home like yours.
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: chaos270 December 21, 2007, 06:18:14 PM
The only thing I can add is that she may need a serious brushing depending on how well she's been taken care of.  Kali mats like crazy even with being partially brushed almost everyday.  As far as bringing her in she'll do fine it may take her a little while to settle on but once she does beware of the bear rugs...Kali is always sprawled somewhere and we've learned to be careful walking at night as she's taken us out a few times ;). Good luck and post some pics if you get her.  Sounds like she could use a nice retirement.
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: AnnaCrew December 21, 2007, 11:47:15 PM
Situation is getting even more fishy - dog is in ER at present, on IV, vet had not proper diagnosis but seems like pyometra. I was on phone all day tacing the dog but I found the ER hospital where she was taken, and it is not even cear if she will make it...
It is disgusting, but people where she was living had not had cared about her as mch as notice that she is ill.

So my chances to get her is very slim now, ut a large group of people are working on her now... There are a lot of lies, and probably some finances involved. I do not want to tell the whole info as so many things are controversal, but she is not coming today. It is clear 100 %.

It is terrible story. She is 7 yo, hips are DD, and it is from completely wrong care, her sisters are still AA, so...

The people from where she was taken, kept her in the sed under the stairs on concrete floor... Not much hopes for poor girl as God kows how lng she had been fighting with this inflamation...

I feel sick about the whole situation!
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: chaos270 December 22, 2007, 01:10:57 AM
Pyros are really bad but my 12 yr old greyhound pulled through hers and it was bad...some dogs don't really show clear symptoms until it gets really bad.  I'll keep my fingers crossed for her hopefully she's a fighter and will pull through.  I just hope she can get a good home eventually. Keep us updated.
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: AnnaCrew December 22, 2007, 04:29:39 PM
She had not made it. Today she died at hospital. Last night overall scan was done after the blood tests were great... She died because she was beaten up to death... Her scull ...
She had internal bleeding and the best vet hospital here was not able to save her... Police is called and investigation startet, but it will not bring back this beautiful dog... I'm still crying for her - all her life she worked hard to help disabled childern to end up unvanted and beaten to death...

I have no words!

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: Pyr Heaven December 22, 2007, 04:32:58 PM
Wow. That is just horrible.  :( :( :'(
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: Lyn December 22, 2007, 04:37:19 PM
Words can't even express my feelings right now.  >:( :'( The poor girl.  :'(
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: marypyrs December 22, 2007, 06:29:21 PM
Anna. I am SO SORRY!   :'( I know you were the Angel meant to rescue her. But the cruelty of these people in her life took too hard a toll. She could no longer endure. There are no words. And there is no possible understanding of such things. How can anyone be so cruel? So Evil? The thought brings me to tears. All she did was bring joy and love to the hearts of children in need.

I also worry about the child she cared for.  :'(


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: DenverFurKiddos December 24, 2007, 08:13:24 PM
Omigosh.  I'm shocked.  No, I'm HORRIFIED.   :'( Rest in Peace, sweet girl. 
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: London_Pyr_Lover December 24, 2007, 09:50:11 PM
I can't believe what I've just read.  That is terrible and I'm so sorry Anna.  I hope that the people who have done this to her are brought to justice, and that she will be vidicated in her passing. 

RIP sweet girl.
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: People Whisperer December 25, 2007, 02:25:12 PM
I am so very sorry Anna  :'( :'( :'(

RIP sweet girl
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: maxsmom December 25, 2007, 02:52:30 PM
I have to agree with the previous posts.  How could anyone do that to any dog, especially one that was intended to assist a disabled child.  At least she is at peace now and will never be abused, hungry, or locked away again.  My major concern at this point, would be if someone could do that to a sweet loving dog, what would they do to a defenseless disabled child.  Hopefully, they will be prosecuted and a watch placed on the child.  I just don't understand people.  I am so sorry Anna.  I know you wanted her and would have given her a fantastic home.  Just know that you tried and did all you could for her. 
Kathy
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: shine December 26, 2007, 01:21:35 PM
OMG. I came looking for this thread, excited to read if you had gotten her yet....I had this mental picture of her in my mind after reading about her...imagined her being quiet and dignified as she cared for a disabled child.  Then the first post I saw said "RIP, sweet girl".  I got quite choked up as I read what happened. 

Another wonderful animal that just got bad break after bad break, was passed around like an inanimate object, and suffered at the hands of people who obviously have no heart.  We read about it time and time again...and it never gets any easier. 

I wonder, what are being done with her remains?  It may seem a gruesome question....bu t I feel like someone should bury her in their yard or keep her ashes....give her the family and the respect she was denied during her life.