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BPO Food Forum => Food Discussion & Information => : meg August 01, 2005, 01:38:11 PM
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Hi,
Just wondering if anyone gives their dogs rawhides, or the pig ears or such, and what are the pros (if any) and the cons. ???
Thanks. Â
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I love rawhides and beef chews. But in moderation. I'm not sure if it's a rott thing...but more than one or two a night and my girls have the squirts.
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I am kind of curious about that my self. Those kinds of chew things can keep Spikes attention for a long time. He has the attention span of a goldfish.LOL
But I was told by someone a long time ago that raw hide can give parasites . Does anyone know if that is true or not?
Rachael and Spike
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I just got my puppy pig ears and she loved them, but she did make a little bit of a mess with it, but out of all the chew toys she chewed on them the longest.
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No Rawhide here.
It is not digestible, it can cause a variety of problems from lodging in the throat and choking to intestinal blockages and impactions.
In addition, unless it is made and cured in the US it can be cured with arsenic.
Pig ears are fatty and cause tummy upsets to many dogs.
I prefer to stick with big raw marrow bones for my kids, but they are hard chewers.
They do love the bully stix, but they don't last very long.
:D
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RedyreRottweil ers do you ever worry about your dogs breaking a tooth with the raw marrow bone? Sophie is also a very hard chewer as well and she chew on them and sometime break small pieces off. I am always scared of her breaking a tooth...Should I worry about that or do the dogs know when they are chewing too hard? She probably wont get another one for a little while thought..the last 2 of them have given her bad runs... which is a little weird...
Meg, Merrick makes a cow ear which I really like its almost like a rawhide but softer and Sophie will chew off smaller pieces. It is not greasy at all and I think they are safer then rawhides. Althought she still really loves the rawhides.. I watch her closely and only buy bones that say made in the USA. They tend to be a little more expensive but at least I know they are a better quality product
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and it really stinks.
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That may be the anwer to a problem we are having here diarrhea! She loves the pig ears, but sounds like they not be agreeing with her. Thanks to everyone :)
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I don't like them because they get all gooey and stuff stick to them. Plus Sanity gets them stuck in his back teeth and starts acting like he's choking. Also, many dogs who're pushovers normally get very very posessive over a pig ear or rawhide. In my opinion it's just asking for trouble.
Ang
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Red...... what countries exactly are you reffering to. when you say they might be cured with arsenic.
Marit
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RedyreRottweilers do you ever worry about your dogs breaking a tooth with the raw marrow bone? Sophie is also a very hard chewer as well and she chew on them and sometime break small pieces off. I am always scared of her breaking a tooth...Should I worry about that or do the dogs know when they are chewing too hard? She probably wont get another one for a little while thought..the last 2 of them have given her bad runs... which is a little weird...
Meg, Merrick makes a cow ear which I really like its almost like a rawhide but softer and Sophie will chew off smaller pieces. It is not greasy at all and I think they are safer then rawhides. Althought she still really loves the rawhides.. I watch her closely and only buy bones that say made in the USA. They tend to be a little more expensive but at least I know they are a better quality product
I've not had that issue, Rachel, and I've had dogs chewing them for years. I'm sure it could happen with some dogs. My older girl has canines both top and bottom that are worn very short from chewing, but not broken.
:D
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No Rawhide here.
It is not digestible, it can cause a variety of problems from lodging in the throat and choking to intestinal blockages and impactions.
In addition, unless it is made and cured in the US it can be cured with arsenic.
Pig ears are fatty and cause tummy upsets to many dogs.
I prefer to stick with big raw marrow bones for my kids, but they are hard chewers.
They do love the bully stix, but they don't last very long.
:D
Raw bones for me too.
Rawhides make mine fart.
I get the parrowbones cut in half so the bone is like a big natural kong and they can lick the goop out.
They are an OUTSIDE treat (smelly and messy)
No issues with teeth yet.
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Red...... what countries exactly are you reffering to. when you say they might be cured with arsenic.
Marit
Marit, I only buy chews made in the U.S.A....I know there are countries that cure their dog chews with all sorts of nasty things including arsenic...I found this out when Sammy was having loose stools quite alot & I was investigating as to why...I can't get my MSN search to work right now so i can't tell you the exact countries within certainty but as soon as I can get my piece o' crap evil 'puter machine to work correctly I will let ya' know. :)
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Puck had a bad experience with rawhide the first year we had him. He got the end off and was choking and gagging . I had to reach in and pull it out. He never got one again. My dads dog had one and he would not even go near it.He took one sniff and walked away.he..he
I want to try a bully stick though. Not me Puck ;)
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I love rawhides and beef chews. But in moderation. I'm not sure if it's a rott thing...but more than one or two a night and my girls have the squirts.
"The squirts!"
LOL
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yeah...thanks for the 'heads up' on that Lins!
I had read that too, about blocking the intestines and such. SO, I hadn't bought any. My mom brought one over for felony a couple of weeks ago and I thought I would just watch her with it, but she isn't very interested in it. She has a small raw marrow bone and seems to like that much better...
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HEY MOON! where you been?
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Lady and Grace like those morrow bones stuffed with Cheese.
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We used to give raw hides, but then Hutch choked on one, luckily I was able to pull it out. Hutch tries to eat his treats too quickly thinking that he would get another one! Now we only use raw marrow bones, they love them more than raw hides and I haven't had any problems with them.
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Red...... what countries exactly are you reffering to. when you say they might be cured with arsenic.
Marit
Marit, I only buy chews made in the U.S.A....I know there are countries that cure their dog chews with all sorts of nasty things including arsenic...I found this out when Sammy was having loose stools quite alot & I was investigating as to why...I can't get my MSN search to work right now so i can't tell you the exact countries within certainty but as soon as I can get my piece o' crap evil 'puter machine to work correctly I will let ya' know. :)
I read something about this hmmm must have been a couple of years ago, and the countries they said to look out for was mixico, far east, and some contires in eastern europe. Most contries in western europe have a very strict law against formaldehyde, for curing food in particular but even in general. I worked for a company manufact. and doing interior design for bathrooms and kitchens in sweden, we had to follow the hardes of laws with all the board material that was used because it can cause both allergies and cancer. The quantity is also rather critical, since formaldehyde actually is something that is present in our bodies as is.
Does anyone know what the law states here, is it safe with just any rawhide made in the us, or is it a difference what brand too. Are some companies more reputable than others? I am right now writing a BIIIG list of stuff I need to order for my babies and I had rawhide on it, but I would like to know if you know if there is any difference depending on brand or who has made them.
Thanks
marit
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Has anyone tried the sweet potato chews? they are supposed to be long lasting and the alternative to rawhides. I haven't tried them but have been thinking about it. My dogs are extremely picky (one won't touch bully sticks, the other does sometimes depending on his mood) and I'm looking for something that lasts longer for my puppy when he gets bored in his crate. (he doesn't spend long in it, but it would be nice for him to have something to do).
He won't touch nyla bones and greenies only time to time (and I've heard many dogs have choked on greenies!) And he doesn't like rawhides even if I were going to give them to him (which I won't because of the same reasons as already mentioned)
I wanted to try raw bones (with my supervision) but I live in an apartment and my dogs are indoor dogs and I'm worried about sanitation (I'm moving to a house in November, but for now, I'm worried about giving them raw bones inside the apartment).
Does anyone have any suggestions for something that lasts longer than pig ears/tendons/ etc. for picky eaters? Can you believe my akitas don't like pig snouts/bully sticks/raw hides/etc.? drives me crazy!!
Also, my vet warned about chipping teeth on roasted bones as well. The side tooth near the back (ones shaped like a W) jut out a little more than the other teeth. these are the ones dogs use when they chew a bone (you know how they turn their heads sideways and chomp on a bone? that's the tooth). these are the ones that are most prone to being chipped. I then looked at my older dog and he has a little chip in one of those teeth (and he's not a really aggressive chewer!). I went online and found tons of other people who hav experienced the same problem. If your dog hasn't chipped any, than that's excellent. But for others who don' tknow whether their dog would chip a tooth might want to play it safe and use an alternative... just my opinion.
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I think you should be able to give raw bones in the apt. Just pick them up when they are done and wanting to guard it or hide it....They will love them... I feed raw and use a lot of antimicrobial cleaners and bleach water so noone gets sick... working pretty good. I think the sweet potato chews sound great.... I add a little sweet potatos to my dogs dinner. They seem to like it!!!! Read Billinhursts "give your dog a bone" for more info on feeding raw meaty bones....Also make sure you don't give any kind of cooked bones because they are dangerous and can splinter...
Timmie
ps - you can go to the butcher and get some pretty cheap bones. If you get the big beef bones have the butcher cut the long bones in half so hey can get to the marrow
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I picked up some of the nylabones - the healthy edible ones in different flavors...Will ow loves them... Have you tried those?
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Hi Brigid:
I'm not sure if you were talking to me or the person who started the post. If me, then yes, I have tried the nyla bones. I've gotten the chicken flavored puppy bones to the harder ones to the bacon flavored healthy edibles and he smells it for a second, maybe gives it one or two chews every few days, and pretty much ignores it. Same with the bully sticks. Sometimes he will chew on them, sometimes he won't. I wonder if I should soak them so the taste comes out. Someone suggested to boil the nyal bones in chicken broth and I haven't done that yet. I'll post if it helps pique his interest...
ARG! It is driving me crazy! He loves roasted bones my boyfriend gives his rott but I can't leave him with one in his crate. I also found these rib bones on valleyvet.com that don't splinter but they last for maybe 90 seconds...ARG! ??? :'( why so picky, little akita?!?
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Hey Jans - Try a raw bone. Beef bones are kind of hard on pup teeth. Lamb is good. Make sure it has a lot of meat on it. Bet he would love it.
Let him eat most of the meat part in the kitchen for easy clean up then the bone bone part can go in the crate for less mess.
Timmie
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I give Cowboy big beef marrow bones frozen....stra ight from the freezer. They aren't so messy then and they sort act like a popsicle to cool him down. He just works and works on it for hours! Once the marrow is out, he kindly passes the empty bone to Chester who will work to find what ever little bit of marrow that Cowboy missed (smaller tongue!!!). I worry about giving Chester a new bone because I don't know if it messes up the energy (fat!) to protein ration for puppies. Is that something I should worry about??
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Hmmmm....I don't know about that. I think it is ok. I wouls just watch for chipped teeth...thoose beef bones are very hard for pup teeth. Billinghurst wrote another book, "grow your pup with bones" I haven't read it yet but I heard it was pretty good.
Timmie
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Thanks! I'll check their teeth more regularly. There seems to be mostly licking to get the marrow out, though. And they only get them after breakfast while I'm reading the paper. We've never had one break...but I'm still not comfortable letting them chew while I'm not right there.
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Yeah - I agree bone eating should be supervised
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Grace lost a lot of puppy teeth with her rawhides
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i never use rawhide bones
ive heard so many horror stories about them getting wraped in the intestines.
as for marrow bones, they are my dogs favorite, but i cook them, never raw.
every one has the pros and cons
what ever works for your dogs, i say stick with it
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I've been looking online at those sweet potato chews that were mentioned above...they are called "Sams Yams" and I think I am going to try them for my crew...first I will see if I can buy them locally, but the website doesnt list retailers...
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Does anyone have any suggestions for good, safe chewies? I've tried Nylabones but Seamus doesn't really like them. Our vet said rawhides are okay as long as they are big enough for him not to ingest a lot at one time. We buy those HUGE rawhides from petsmart. We haven't had any problems yet, but if he shouldn't have them i'll stop. He needs something to chew on when he is board though, and only edible stuff seems to work. Any ideas?
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I know, Ive been wondering the same thing....I am going to try the sweet potato chews...I will let you all know how they work out!
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Well...I just got my shipment of dog chews from SitStay.com and I have to say that the Sams Yams did not go over so well. I thought Austy would love them since he drools a puddle whenever I make yams for dinner! He just kinda crunched them up and spit them out all over the carpet. Not enough butter I guess ;) The favorite chewy in my house are still the icelandic fish skins, hands (PAWS) down!!! Vizslas are big chewers so I like to keep a variety of edible chews around. Heres our chewy ranking list:
Elinoras Royal Fish Skins***** Yummmmm
Texas Toothpicks*****
Grandpaws *****
Macho (bully) sticks **** only Zoey likes these
lamb ears*** dont really last long enough
rabbit ears*** new to us ... wait oh they're gone (not long lasting)
marrow bones ** Zoey just likes to drop them on the hard floor in the middle of the night!
Sams Yams* these sounded so good
I'd love to know how the sweet potato chews work out for you.
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Tulsa gets Pig Ears , once a day after our training session. Jerky Treats are her fave and used for incentive when training. I have rawhide bones, made in USA, but she doesn't like them as much as she used to, as she matures her tastes have changed. About the same time she stopped liking the rawhides, she stopped eating my 'sneakers'! YAY!!!
J ;D