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BPO General Forum => General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws => : angelsmama September 25, 2005, 04:23:41 PM
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when i was walking angel today someone was petting her saying how sweet she is and kissed her head while angel licked her. angel was showing just how gentle she is. she asked what kind of dog angel is, i told her a rottweiler mix.she jerked her hands back and close to her and said "that dog could have bit me, she'll turn on you!" >:( i told her "you just kissed my dog, and now shes evil since you know what she is?? if she was to ever bite it'd be an idiot like you" and walked off with my dog.
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Isn't that sad?
This is how breeds of dogs get outlawed. The general public just has no idea that the majority of dogs in any breed are good canine citizens that belong to responsible pet owners.
It's the irresponsible few that get all the rest of us in the soup.
The best thing you can do is have your well mannered dog out in public as much as possible, being seen behaving well.
And if she's a mix, come up with a funny name. Louisiana Lap dog? Texas Tree climber? Carolina canine?
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You also have another opportunity to educate people on how to approach dogs they are not familiar with.
It is a BAD IDEA for anyone to put their face up to a dog's head that they do not know. This is a STRONG gesture of dominance to dogs. Think of how dogs interact. When one dog comes up and puts his face right in another dog's, it's not generally a friendly gesture.
Dogs are not people. Many people are bitten in the face when they do this, and esp lots of kids.
I school people gently all the time about these sorts of things.
I try to set my dogs up for success, so I CONTROL their interactions with the public, and how people approach and interact with them.
Just a little food for thought.
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When I was at the hotel, I was walking Zeus, to go potty, and this lady with a Cocker and Schnauzer was also walking her dogs. She had a little boy with her holding the Schnauzer. When she got closer I heard her make this comment "Becareful so that dog doesnt kill ours, he is a Rottweiler" >:( Zeus was a very good boy, didnt bark or anything at this people, just minding his own buisness. Sadly I am used to those comments by now, but they still upset me.
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It's a chronic problem with dobermans too. I figure if they are that predujudiced and stupid I don't want to deal with them anyway, so they may as well be afraid of my dog. It bothers me more when they are teaching their children the same crap, thus ensuring another generation of idiots.
Stella
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beautiful doberman you have :) as i always say - punish the deed not the breed.. not sure how many has seen this video.. www.pitbullpro blem.tk
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I actually took the time to ask a woman with that type of attitude why she thought that way. She said " No one should be allowed to have those kind of dogs in public. My Aunt Bertha was bitten badly by one of those."
I said "Oh, I understand now. My Uncle Fred was hit by a car, walking down the street. I guess no one should ever drive again, right?"
Stella
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lol! nice come back.. well those who dont like my ms angel , thats just more love she can give someone else :)
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Stella and Jenn,
WOOOOOOOOOOH! Good answers! Fortunately, Cabeza doesn't look Chow-ish enough to ever have comments like that made. I know people would say stuff like that if they thought he was a Chow.
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cabeza is such a handsome boy as well :) i cant get enough of this site, everyones pretty babies ;D
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Isnt it crazy the way some people think. Ive been living in my new house for 2 months now and you wouldn beleive the comments I get. OMG. It drives me nuts. I just started getting mail today cause the Mail Man was scared of Judge. Our last Mail Man gave Judge cookies so he Loves Mail Men. I had to track down my old mail man to talk to the new guy to let him know Judge wouldnt eat him. I even made sure Judge was in when the mail come but he wouldnt come near the house. I can understand being worried but all he had to do was come to the front door and I would have introduced him to Judge. The little dogs around here seem more vicious than my big whimp. HEHEHEHE
Coonie
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Angelsmom-Cabeza says, "Aw, shucks. Thank ya, ma'am." hehehehe!
Coonie...wooh! Let me tell you my mail man story! hahahaha! One day, my daughter and her friend were in the front yard with Cabeza. They were brushing him. The mail man walks up and says, "You little a$$holes, put that dog away!" The kids, who at this time are like, 10, say, "What? He's nice, he won't hurt you." And the mail man starts YELLING AND CURSING (more) at these two ten year olds! So, Cabeza starts barking at him! The mailman HITS AND KICKS Cabeza and tells the kids that they are two SOB's and runs away. The kids and Cabeza come in, and as they are telling us the story, ANIMAL CONTROL shows up about a BIG VICIOUS BLACK DOG. I'm like, 'HELLO?! THis mailman calls my TEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER an a$$hole, and yells at her, and my dog barks and the DOG is vicious?" I think that the mailman needs to be investigated! I couldn't believe it!
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OMG Did you ever get mail again ?? Your poor kids. That Mail man is lucky Cabeza didnt chew his leg off to protect HIS kids.
Coonie
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omg :o that man would be missing if he did that to me. angel would have eat him :D shes sweet but she doesnt like anyone screaming around me.
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Swore at my kids??? Hit and kicked my dog????
That's one federal employee that would be in a federal food kitchen with my size sevens planted so far somewhere that he'd have to find a proctologist!
Stella
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LOL! i couldnt agree anymore gr8
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You can't trust dogs like that,, gotta watch out for 'em, they will steal your toast! :)
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I was absolutely FURIOUS. The animal control guy finally ended up leaving, and APOLIGIZING to me. He tried to tell me that even if my dog is in MY yard with MY kids, he still has to be on a leash, he could write me a ticket, blah, blah, blah, blah....and I'm like...."Dude. I'm about to file assault charges on this guy. I think you need to leave now. Do you really want to give ME sh..t when this man harrassed a couple of KIDS grooming their dog? Not to mention....ABU SING MY DOG?" He was like, "Um, no ma'am. I'm sorry." And he left. I called the post office and reported the guy. He never delivered our mail after that. We had a new mailman.
I did see the guy (mailman) one other time, and I was like, "Oh, hi. You're the sorry, sad little man that finds it interesting to curse at children and abuse dogs. It must be so sad to be you. I feel terrible for you." He just looked at me like I was nuts. But, we both knew that I was right and that he's pathetic.
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Angelsmom-Cabeza says, "Aw, shucks. Thank ya, ma'am." hehehehe!
Coonie...wooh! Let me tell you my mail man story! hahahaha! One day, my daughter and her friend were in the front yard with Cabeza. They were brushing him. The mail man walks up and says, "You little a$$holes, put that dog away!" The kids, who at this time are like, 10, say, "What? He's nice, he won't hurt you." And the mail man starts YELLING AND CURSING (more) at these two ten year olds! So, Cabeza starts barking at him! The mailman HITS AND KICKS Cabeza and tells the kids that they are two SOB's and runs away. The kids and Cabeza come in, and as they are telling us the story, ANIMAL CONTROL shows up about a BIG VICIOUS BLACK DOG. I'm like, 'HELLO?! THis mailman calls my TEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER an a$$hole, and yells at her, and my dog barks and the DOG is vicious?" I think that the mailman needs to be investigated! I couldn't believe it!
Oh wow, I am just afraid of what I would do if someone came into my yard and abused children and my dog!! I'm furious and my stomach hurts just thinking of it!
Once a woman kicked at Emma as we were walking on a sidewalk. Emma was leashed, and she looked over at the woman (just curious, not mean). I did a quick correct, but then as we were almost past, the woman kicked out at Miss Em. Well, I turned around and gave her h*ll. She threatened to call the police on my dog, and I whipped out my cel phone and said, let's do that right now, because you are NOT going to be kicking dogs who haven't done a thing to you. She shut up, and we moved on, but good grief it was an ugly situation.
Jen
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OMG - What is it with these people?!?! This is just insanity. If someone kicked my dog, they would see the Irish temper come out in all it's glory. I don't have any kids, but if I saw someone treat my nieces that way....there is NO telling what I would've done.
Some people should just be drawn and quartered.
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I can't believe some people. That mailman would have been fired if it happened to me or my family.
Too bad I never think of anything to say until after the fact, otherwise I would have had plenty of words with people over the years. I have never had problems with anyone saying anything about MY dogs, but I have heard general comments about dog at our dog park. It really upsets me that people judge a dog before even meeting it.
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These stories are horrible. I don't have one of the "Bad Breeds' persay, but if I have the dogs out, everyone goes for Araby first. I think it's hysterical because Araby is a psycho crazy banshee on lead. She'll walk on her back legs for blocks, spin in circles, drag our 380 pound Polynesian friend down the road. She's a nut job. Sanity and Hobo will sit there SO well behaved with nothing but their butts wiggling (Especially when kids are involved) and people will walk around them to go to the spotted pogo stick. It just floors me. Don't get me wrong, Araby loves people and ADORES kids, and is really good with them, but if I had the choice between going up to one of two well behaved dogs or the one that looked like it was on crack, I'd take the good ones. I asked one lady why she went to Araby as opposed to the boys and she said "She just looks more welcoming then the other two do. They're kind of scary." My poor boys :(
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Some people are just dumb sometimes. It's horrible to judge a dog (or their owner) by the breed of dog, but sadly it's done all too often. I know Great Pyrenees are "supposed" to be all white...but if they aren't...who cares? Once in a while, we get some snob asking "aren't they supposed to be all white?" or "Hmph...isn't she a bit big for a girl?" Come on...give me a break! These people are so silly....When you think about it, it's almost like asking a person why their child doesn't have blonde hair and blue eyes competing in beauty pageants. Much less asking why their kid is so tall for a girl. Doesn't this sound ridiculous to anyone else but me? People who judge a dog by its breed, are the same people who will judge a person by their skin color. It's the same thing. Everyone is different...do gs included. Not everyone is "perfect", but it doesn't mean that they aren't loved. I wouldn't change Roxy's gray patches and black face for anything! So what if she's a little bigger than most females? That means there is that much more of her for everyone to love!!
One of my favorite quotes---
"If you love it, then it's perfect"
Think about it...its true! We all love our dogs, no matter their shape, size or color. I'm pretty sure that the majority of you wouldn't change a thing about their fur babies...am I right?
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I can't agree more. It irks me when people speak out of ignorance against a breed. Preferablly against pit bulls (I'm so sick of hearing that age old debate). I dont own one nor have I ever, but that doesnt mean I will speak out of foolishiness b/c of some dumb stereo type. Not every dog is bad b/c of size shape or color. I have the same problem with people who open their month & assume my pet is aggressive b/c they see a curled tail & think Oh-My an Akita ( and lions & tigers, & bears!).. If those type of people had half a brain they would research or do their homework before speaking. Whew I feel better! ;-)
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its nothing but canine racism... people dont judge all whites for what the kkk did , so whats the difference.. there is none.. >:(
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 I know Great Pyrenees are "supposed" to be all white...but if they aren't...who cares? Once in a while, we get some snob asking "aren't they supposed to be all white?"   I wouldn't change Roxy's gray patches and black face for anything!
Around 65% of all Pyr pups are born with color but only 18% will keep that color into adulthood...Th ey are definitely not "supposed' to be all white...Anyone that thinks any different obviously has no real knowlege of the breed...My Pippin's father has the most gorgeous face mask & color on his body & he has been shown & won!!!...Samson has quite alot of color....The breed standard states no more than 1/3 of their body should have color...Your Roxy is just gorgeous & a very pretty Pyr!!!....I know breeders who try to get their bitches to "throw some color" by mating her with a stud with colored markings...It is desired...I actually prefer the adult Pyrs with color because it is more uncomman than finding an unmarked adult!
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I know whay you all mean. I use to have a pit bull who was the best dog. and when we were staying with my parents while we were buy our house some one poisoned him in their fenced back yard only 2 weeks before we closed on our house. we never did find out who did it, but I do know they fed it to him because our other dog was back there with him and nothing happen to him. It makes me so mad what people are capable of doing.
Jenn
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Wow. This actually is hitting a bit closer to home today than yesterday.
Without boring everyone with the whole long story (I've told it before here)....
About a year ago, Mark (my BF) went to my apartment to look for me and accidentally let my American Bulldog/Pit out. Not a huge big deal or anything. So, Bo was peeing out in the yard and a lady and her boyfriend walked by. They were loud and goofy (he thinks they were drunk or something...I think they were crackheads....)anyway, Bo runs up to them. He was not quite a year old and kinda stupid. So,he runs up to her, and she SCREAMS like someone is bludgeoning her to death with an axe. Bo jumps up on her, cuz he was hyper and stupid (We were working on the jumping up thing) and anyway, she runs over to the neighbor's porch and grabs a broom, and starts beating him, and her boyfriend throws a cinder block at him. (It didn't hit him, but broke right next to him).
Anyway...so Mark gets the dogs in, comes back to check on the lady, and she's gone. He calls me (I'm at my mom's) and I rush home. He told me that he was pretty sure that Bo didn't bite the lady, just scared the crap outta her. (You know how SCARY pitbulls look... ::) ) So, we kinda hung out for awhile seeing if she'd come back, and then we went to my mom's. Didn't think anything of it.
Next day, animal control shows up, they confiscate BOTH of our dogs (Bo AND Cabeza the sweet and good) and say that both dogs "mauled" this lady and they are going to be euthanized immediately.
Anyway...THREE WEEKS LATER....they euthanize Bo and give us Cabeza back. Totally stressful.
Well, we just got a summons. She's SUING us. For "unspecified" damage. WHAT?! Doesn't that mean, "FOR WHATEVER THE JURY WILL GIVE MY GOLD-DIGGIN" A$$"? My flipping dog is DEAD. She BAILED, so I couldn't even see if she was hurt or whatever, and its been a YEAR.
I HATE people that judge breeds like that. If I walked up to someone, and they hit me with a broom and threw cinder blocks at me, I might not be too nice, either.
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oh my gosh! That is soo horrible! I am so sorry... I'm sure the judge will throw the case out.
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Its sad that some people are scared of our Big Paws just because of their breed. I deal with that with Faust, but I sometimes have the opposite problem.
It usually happens either when we're out, or if people stop by the house. People will go running at Mojo, my aussie and just start trying to hug and cuddle him. The usual comment is "Oh look at the Lassie dog!" and because Mojo is fluffy and has the white collar and blaze thing going on, they expect him to be this lovable stuffed dog. Then they look over at Faust and are like "Yikes, a big bad German Shepherd!". :P Then you should see the looks on their faces when I tell them that Faust is the loveable mush, and Mojo is NOT a Lassie dog and out of any of the crew, he's the one that they should watch out for. ::)
It breaks my heart seeing aussies becoming so popular because of their looks and then people turn around and dump them because they're a protective, high energy herding dog and don't act like labs/goldens in funny colored fur. :'(
But then again, that's why I love them.....
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I hope so, Rachel. Unfortunately, we have to hire a lawyer, so we still have to pay for that even if the judge doesn't award her anything. We're meeting with the attorney in about an hour, so I'll let everyone know what he thinks.
Its not like I don't want to take responsibility for the actions of my dog, its just that I KNOW that the only reason that this is even going this far is cuz he was a big scary mean vicious Pitbull. And nobody even considers the fact that A) he's mostly American Bulldog, and B) he was A NICE DOG. But, people don't know anything about dog behavior. So, if I say, "Yeah, he jumped up on her." Its like I'm admitting he mauled her. It couldn't simply be that he wanted to jump up and lick her in the eye like he did with everyone. (Annoying, I know...but not mauling)
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Oh Nicole,
that is so sad! :-[ I'm sorry that you had to go through this. I really hate how sue happy our country is becoming! Wishing you the best of luck with that crazy lady.
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I'd like to get ahold of the b***h (no offense to female dogs by any means!) then she'd have something to sue for!...Oh that irks me!!...Good luck Nicole!!!
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Thanks, Moni. You know, that's the bottom line. We as a country have become so ready to sue. Its like people are just WAITING for something like this to happen so they can sue. Ridiculous.
You know, I looked up this woman's court record (its public information! hehehe!) and she's been in trouble for battery, breaking and entering, etc. etc. all kinds of stuff. She's just not a nice person. GRRRR.
One time, I was out back with my dogs and my neighbor's dogs (Cabeza, a Border Collie, a Black Lab/Greyhound X, and a little terrier mix) and one of the other neighbor's was walking by. As he walked by, he yelled, "If one of those dogs bites me, I'm gonna get PAID" Its just disgusting. Like he wants to get bit so he can sue. People suck. That's why I love dogs.
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Thanks, Gyps! Maybe when this is all said and done, I'll post her address here on BPO. hehehehehe! The van and the bat can pay her a little visit! hehehehhehehe!
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Good luck Nicole. I hope she gets nothing. I'm so sorry you lost your dog to stupid humans.
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I've heard of people like that, or even worse! Supposedly there are people that try to irk the dog in order to get bit... then they sue! Makes me wary of people who are overly obnoxious in public when I have the dogs with me. >:(
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Thanks, April! I hope she gets nothing too. Well....nothin g from the courts! From me, I hope she gets a BIG FAT A$$ WHOOPIN'!
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Nicole, I feel horrible that you have to go through this!! I'll be sending positive thoughts your way that this mess goes away quickly!
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Hi everyone!
Ok. Here's the update from the attorney. Oh, BTW, thanks Jen and Rick for your positive thoughts! :D
Anyway...he feels as if it is going to be pretty hard to prove negligence on my part considering that I had my dog locked in my apartment and I wasn't even there when it happened. And negligence is what they are claiming. Mostly, he thinks that they want to go after Mark's insurance policy. Its a $300,000 policy. So, our plan is that we are going to have two different lawyers. One for me, to defend the fact that I had the dog locked up and wasn't there, and one for Mark to defend the fact that Cabeza didn't bite anyone. At the time, Mark and I had separate apartments and Cabeza was living with him, so I guess that makes him HIS dog..hehehe... but most importantly the INSURED dog.
I hope that they just settle with Mark's insurance company and be done with it. My attorney says that the best way to think of it is imagine if WE were on the jury. We'd be thinking, "Well, what did these people do wrong? Nothing!" It was all just an accident. He thinks that the jury won't find any negligence involved. So, hopefully, it will all just go away. *sigh* I hope so. I can't be driving four hours to go see an attorney all the time! (I go to school four hours away from home, so I had to come up and miss two days of school to meet with him)
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Thanks, Jenn! I'm sure that some smack could be laid! hahahhaha!
Yeah, I think that its probably not going to be a huge big deal, but I'm still going to have to pay the attorney. Which is already up to about $500! YIKES!
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Thanks, Melissa! I feel exactly the same way. People are so interested in finding someone responsible when alot of times, stuff is either A) simply an accident with noone to blame, or B) their own dang fault!
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First off Nicole, your story made me sick to my stomach. When that stupid lady next door was talking about suing us, first thing I thought of is what would happen to Sanity. You're totally right about our sue happy society. We're never at fault for anything, find someone else to blame. That's what therapy is all about "Tell me about..... your FATHER" (DA DA DUMMMMMM).
What I was going to say, have you considered a counter suit? It just bothers me that she can claim your dogs "Mauled" her, does she have any medical reports? You have emotional distress for losing your dog. Just wondering..... ..
Ang
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Thanks, Jenn! I'm sure that some smack could be laid! hahahhaha!
Yeah, I think that its probably not going to be a huge big deal, but I'm still going to have to pay the attorney. Which is already up to about $500! YIKES!
Is it possible to have the judge order her to pay court costs & lawyer fees?...Will mark miss work?...Counter for loss of wages...How about because of her direct frivolous actions your dog was put down...Counter for what your dog cost even if it was just an adoption fee...Stick it back to her!...Maybe she'll think twice about dragging someone into court on such b.s. again!
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I hate people who judge breeds at a glance, too- but in BOTH directions. Like one member said about her Aussie, people ASSUME the dog is friendly by its looks, and that's just as stupid as assuming a dog is unfriendly by its breed or looks.
I also have a HUGE problem with newbies who know nothing about dogs, and don't do their homework. Some dogs were bred to be more aggressive/protective than other breeds. Individuals in those breeds may need a firmer hand or different training than a breed that was bred for a different purpose. I'm not saying that all dogs don't need training, I'm saying that some breeds are not suitable for someone who does not have the experience or force of personality to train them properly. I used to work for animal control, and I saw lots of bites from dogs whose bewildered owner said "but I didn't TEACH him to be mean, I loved him and gave him everything he needed"-- never realizing that the dog needed discipline and structure. "
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i do hv to admit.. i'm prejudiced against certain breeds... o say.. TEACUP poodles? or frenchies? or chihuahuas?
i look at 'em and go: darn toy dogs... over grown rats.. ;D ;)
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Gyp,
Yeah, I've thought about those things. I guess if it gets ugly we may have to do some of that. I'm hoping it doesn't get to that point. My b-friend just called me. Her ENTIRE medical bills add up to $300 and ONLY because she didn't have insurance (she's on Hoosier Healthwise...o therwise known as medicaid) so she went to the emergency room. Otherwise I'm sure it wouldn't have been anything. And she went to the emergency room like, a week after it happened. Matter of fact, the night it happened, she called 911, and when they got there, she refused any medical treatment, saying she was fine. GRRRRRRRRR.
Her medical bills are less expensive than what I currently owe my attorney. I might consider pursuing that, cuz this is all B.S. Honestly, at this point, I feel like just calling her up and saying, "Hey, honey. I don't want to make a big nasty deal out of this. How bout Mark and I just pay what you owe the hospital and be done with this?" But, her frivioulous, litergious self would probably not agree.
Daneinsane, you're right. All breeds have their own little things, and then each individual doggie does, too.
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I prefer large dogs to small dogs for my personal dogs, but that is just because I am a large person, and am afraid I would hurt a smaller breed. I am so used to handling large dogs that smaller dogs feel too fragile, and very breakable. I joke around because I am intimidated by their fragility, and the small pure breds that I have run into have been very unpredictable, and that has put me off as well. Please don't be hurt or offended by anything I have posted about the little guys, it actually was meant benignly. I'll try to think more in the future.
Stella
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Thanks, daneinsane, but my post wasn't directed at you specifically either. This is not the first post I have seen about people getting hurt about their little dogs, and it made me feel kinda bad that I may have contrubuted to that. So it was a blanket apology.
To the subject at hand, Nicole, I am so sorry that the idiot woman is making things rough for you and BF yet again. I am fairly sure that your pain and suffering isn't compensatible by law because dogs are considered property, and you would have to prove concrete monetary damages from the death of your puppy---loss of future income from puppies sort of thing. However if she loses the lawsuit, and you can prove that it was unfounded, you may be able to get punitive damages, in the form of court costs, and legal fees. Of course if she is on welfare you'll never see a dime. I work for a group of lawyers in IL, and that is what one of them told me. The laws of the different states are all different when it comes to pet law though, so it may not be the same in Indiana.
Stella
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He he...People are silly. This reminds me of something that happened to henry quite recently... he was in the park taking a dump when this woman with a japanese chin comes up and starts harrasing him and kicking him and threatening to call the police. Henry hadn't even looked at her dog, but she just went crazy! Even after I managed to lift henry into my arms ( because henry doesn't like dogs bothering him) she still continued kicking at me and henry! I told her to go right ahead and call the police...she never did though....Craz y old bat. Then I wonder why Henry doesn't like other dogs!
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That is horrible Nicole.
I would still try to countersue, even if the charges would be unfounded. The fact she refused medical treatment on the night it happened could go in your favor.
The fact of the matter is that your dog was put to sleep wrongly and for no reason. If anyone should be suing, it should be you. Since she refused treatment, there is no documentation or pictures of what, if anything happened. As far as I know, it is illegal to kill someone's pet, which is basically what she did, even if she herself did not give him the needle.
And I always thought a dog wouldn't be put to sleep unless it was proven vicous or had bitten someone. So far, that has obviously not been proven (otherwise she probably would have sued you sooner), so I'm wondering why the dog was put to sleep in the first place.
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Well, here's the thing. I haven't ruled out suing the city yet. They are the ones that actually make me the most angry with this whole thing. Yeah, they put my dog to sleep without due process, didn't give me any chance to appeal it, and didn't compensate me for the loss of my property. The city screwed the whole thing up majorly. My lawyer just cannot believe that they did that.
Its so frustrating.
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I can imagine. You're right, the city should also be held liable for what happened to your pet.
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You should absolutely sue her. The only thing you can do in a situation like this is go with a scorched earth policy.
Sue her for anything and everything your attorney can think of, including false allegations against your dog.
If she refused treatment at the scene, there no way to tell what injuries put her in the emergency room to the tune of $300 a week later. She absolutely cannot prove that it was your dog's scratches. Any number of other dogs may have scratched her drunken butt in the mean time.
I bet if you look into it a little, her going to the hospital was involved in your dog being murdered--I'd put money down that they went to talk to her and she made some sort of statement of, 'oh I had to go to the hospital'--and they assumed that it was at the time of the incident, and not days and days later. And thus was your dog convicted and condemned.
Betcha.
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OMG - Nicole, that is just plain awful. Poor Bo! I sincerely hope that stupid, ignorant, drunken bafoon gets what she deserves - NOT A DAMN THING. Also, I hope that you sue the pants off of the city too. That is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE. I'm appalled! Our tax dollars at work. BIG HUGS from Auntie Heather and Cousin Ranger to Cabeza, you, and Mark.
OOOH - I'm ANGRY! It's that Irish temper for you. I will layeth the smacketh down on that stupid freaking wench and the whole animal control depatment too!! You just give me the word.
Um....Jenn...W e are going to need that BPO Bail fund....