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BPO Legislation Forum => Bills & Other Legislative Acts => : newflvr December 11, 2005, 11:38:27 AM

: !!!! This is something we all should sign!!!
: newflvr December 11, 2005, 11:38:27 AM
This was just sent to me:  a petition to stop the European countries from importing cat and dog skin coats.  Forty-two puppies to make a coat??



The subject line is correct.  How about a coat made from the skin of 42 puppies?!  It's real and if you don't speak up it will continue to happen.  I'm sorry to have to tell anyone this, but please sign the petition and send it to everyone you know.  No one except monsters want coats made from pets.


http://www.heathermillsmccartney.com/petition.php

OUTRAGEOUS!!!! >:(
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: Good Hope December 11, 2005, 11:53:04 AM
I can't get the link to work. If you can fix it, I'll sign it.

Deena
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: Svnt4God December 11, 2005, 12:01:21 PM
There is a space right before the Y in McCartney.
Remove the space and the link will work
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: Anky December 11, 2005, 12:02:42 PM
www.heathermillsmccartney.com/petition.php? (http://www.heathermillsmccartney.com/petition.php?)
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: newflvr December 11, 2005, 12:50:12 PM
I kept trying to fix it and when it posted, the extra bits were added?????  I have NO idea why!  SORRY!!!

http://www.heathermillsmccartney.com/petition.php

Take out everything before the http and it should work.....(fingers crossed!!)
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: Stacey December 11, 2005, 12:59:37 PM
http://www.heathermillsmccartney.com/petition.php?#
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: mastiffmommy December 11, 2005, 01:07:38 PM
I read it and signed it, and it made me totally sick to my stomach, and I mean SICK SICK SICK. Being from Europe I am utterly ashamed for the EU's slack and unacceptable way of dealing with this.

On a good note though, a lot of the EU contries have very strict laws when it comes to animal cruelty, actually way harder than here. As I am most acustomed to the Swedish laws thats what I am here talking about, most fur is banned in sweden, the fur they buy has to be from animals farmed in a certain humane way, not saying that is always easy to make sure, since most of them are imported, because it is illegal to keep most of the "fur animals" there, it is seen as cruel.

So hopefully more contries than what have officially banned the cat and dog fur, have laws that prohibit the import and use, and now when it is out in daylight (I for one had not idea this was going on until 10 min ago) I am sure the public reactions in most European countries will put a stop to it. Mind you it says in the article that some of the new EU countries, and well they are mostly east europe or former sovjet countries and they just dont have the same kind of feelings for animals as we do in the west.

I signed and will do my bit by making sure the large animal rights group in Sweden, is working on this, and also try and find out what the actual situation is in Scandinavia.

Marit
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: Nina December 11, 2005, 01:08:21 PM
I just typed in the address www.heathermil lsmccartney.co m/petition.php and it worked.

edit- I typed in everything minus the stuff  before the www.  Not sure why all that stuff is being added.

Nina
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: mastiffmommy December 11, 2005, 01:13:58 PM
I just typed in www.heathermil lsmccartney.co m and then clicked on dog and cat fur then on letters and petition

I still feel sick to my stomach though, the pics. in that article is too much

Marit
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: mastiffmommy December 11, 2005, 01:19:55 PM
www.heathermil lsmccartney.co m

I am not sure what happened to my last post but for some reason a bunch of stuff came that I know I didnt type, or have I gone bonkers?????

Marit
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: mastiffmommy December 11, 2005, 01:25:56 PM
okay  now I am sure it is not me lol....

When you type in the www addy it adds on a lot of stuff, I wonder how that happens? Anyone knows?

Marit
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: brandon December 11, 2005, 01:26:49 PM
http://www.heathermillsmccartney.com/petition.php



Turn off smilies when you post links, and it works, no idea why, but it does  :-\
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: newflvr December 11, 2005, 01:29:01 PM
Okay...I don't know either!!  and thanks Marit for the up-date and in following up!  After reading some thing like this I can sort of see the point in PETA....even though I don't condone their methods!!!  I'm going to turn this over to Micheal and see if he can sort it out....
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: newflvr December 11, 2005, 01:33:26 PM
Hey!!!  Brandon fixed it!!!  YEA!!  It should be all better now!

Thanks Brandon!!
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: mastiffmommy December 11, 2005, 01:35:10 PM
Yes it makes me sooooo upset I hyperventilate for a while. I worked with, well not dog and cat fur thank goodness, didnt even know it was done. But with the rules and regulations to make life better for clinical lab animals and for them not to ever be used when there were other methods, so I have seen way way too much, but it doesnt matter I still get so mad I cry when I hear how horrible people are, HOW in the world can you go to sleep and live with yourself knowing you are torturing poor defenseless animals.  :'(

I will get in touch with people I used to work with, and see what they have to say, and I will get back here with whatever that is.

Marit
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: brandon December 11, 2005, 01:37:11 PM
Signed it, thats just wrong.
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: Carolyn December 11, 2005, 02:41:54 PM
I saw a story once about "asiatic" fur..guess what that is. NEVER NEVER buy asiatic fur. A lot of those furry animal figures you see are made of that & collars on jackets.
Carolyn
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: Newf Lover December 11, 2005, 03:30:47 PM
Signed it, that is just lame.  In this day and age, with all the synthetics that are available, there is no reason for fur coats to still be made.
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: mastiffmommy December 11, 2005, 04:06:33 PM
Signed it, that is just lame.  In this day and age, with all the synthetics that are available, there is no reason for fur coats to still be made.

I totally agree with you, why use fur at all???? I can see why it was used during the cave age, they simply had to use it to not freeze to death. Now well there is material that is actually much warmer, much more practical and does not involve killing animals. Me personally would never wear anything with real fur. Now I am worried though, since they according to the article, sometimes call the dog and cat fur faux fur. So much today have the little bits and pieces of fur, purses, jackets, boots, you name it. After this I think I will have a very hard time buying anything with "faux" fur since I feel it is hard to really really be sure what it really is.

Marit
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: Senghe December 11, 2005, 05:10:57 PM
Marit - synthetic faux fur has come a long way, but after feeling an item, it's pretty obvious when someting is made from real fur. For starters, if you part the fur, you can easily tell real skin from a fabric base in one glance. I think a lot of people are happy to delude themselves if they like an item enough and then plead ignorance afterwards. If we don't buy it, they can't sell it.

I just don't see any practical need in this day and age to kill an animal purely for it's fur. Even in the wilds of Russia where synthetic garments are not affordable, they usually eat the animals they wear.

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: mastiffmommy December 11, 2005, 05:15:36 PM
Yeah I guess you are right, the faux fur that is on Jennifers jacket and Malins purse, now when I went to check it, it is definately faux, no way that stuff is real, puhhhh now I feel better  :) Thanks

Marit
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: Scootergirl December 11, 2005, 05:51:47 PM
I would sign this, but I just don't know how helpful online petitions are. Do they really make an impact? How do they verify the "signatures" are legit? Can't you just make up a whole bunch of names and sign something 100 times and invalidate the petition.

Sorry to be a Negative Nellie, but I just don't trust the whole online petition thing. Can someone shed some light on this for me?
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: mastiffmommy December 11, 2005, 05:59:54 PM
I know what you mean, I sign them because I am pretty sure they cant hurt.

As you well know by now (sounding like a broken record lol) I worked with animal rights in Sweden, when there were issues like this. The bigger questions that need law bills, the best and most effective way (only my opinion) is to have a large, powerful org. that works not only in rescue but also have a lobbying section. I am sure that is going on aswell. I have sent an email to an old contact and hope to get some kind of answer soon.

But like I said,  I sign petitions because hopefully it does make a difference and it can not do any harm.

My two cents worth  ;)

Marit
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: newflvr December 11, 2005, 09:02:35 PM
I agree with Marit.  I don't usually sign on-line petitions (or really any petitions) but this is so clearly WRONG that I had NO hesitation.  Maybe the powers that be in Europe don't care that 100,000 or more people thing it's a horrifying thought but maybe, just maybe someone will notice and it may make a difference!  The only fur I want to own is already being worn by Chester, Cowboy and our two crazy cats!!!
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: nostaw January 18, 2006, 07:33:26 PM
This is the joy of living in the E.U. Once upon a time this trade was stopped in the UK because the type of fur used in clothing had to be specified. Who would buy a coat labled dog or cat fur? Then along came the EU and for the sake of standardisatio n stopped this practice - apparently our standards were too high for the rest of europe. Its nice being ruled by ubelected bueraucrats, honest ;D


Andy Bell and Hovis
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: Sami142 January 18, 2006, 10:16:43 PM
I signed...Hope that it helps in some way.

Sami, Jinx, and Rookie