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Retrievers => Labrador Retriever Discussions => : longshadowfarms March 10, 2006, 11:31:18 AM
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Don't even know where to begin. Eider, our 10 mo old Lab pup, is at the vet. This morning after he ate his breakfast he threw up and then started shaking like I've never seen a dog shake before. he could hardly walk and when he did walk, it was like a drunken sailor. Foaming and drooling at the mouth. I called the vet. They wanted to see him at 4:45 pm. I thought about that for a minute, called back and said we're coming NOW! The vet thinks it is some form of poison, I confess I can't remember the name of the poison family he thought. I know we have a bottle of malathion in the barn. He said that would do it. It could have been skin contact or eaten. I jsut spent an hour out there in the barn trying to figure out what it could be. It is like there is so much out there that it could be (malathion, plant foods, bug killers, antifreeze, etc) but none of those are where he could get into them or seem to be leaking or anything like that. I'm exhausted! I'm still not feeling well myself with lung issues that has been going on for more than a month now and I was desperately trying to figure out what he might have gotten into that could be doing this. DH got called in to a shooting today and has 3 other major cases that he's trying to keep up with at work, working all weekend. I don't think he'll be a lot of help in my investigation! What a mess. Anyway, I'd appreciate puppy prayers for my little brat! The wierd thing is that the other 3 dogs were all at the barn this morning too and every other morning. No one else is sick. Just my little brat. If one of the kids got into whatever it is, it could be a problem for them as well. According to the vet it could be a skin contact problem. No kids are talking. I'm so frustrated I'm not sure whether to believe them or not. They are all great liars but they understand the seriousness of the situation and that it could be more dogs or even them and still no one is talking so I'm thinking they really don't know what it is either. I'm feeling numb at this point.
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How horrible! You have my prayers and best wishes to a quick recovery for Eider! I hope you find out what it was soon...
Jacquie
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I am so sorry to hear that this happened! I hope everything works out ok for poor Eider
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I hope he gets well soon, and I hope you can find what did it too.
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Oh poor Eider - I hope you have had some good news by now! I'm so sorry you aren't feeling well and everything is happening at the same time!!
Sending prayers for Eider!!!
Randy & Harley
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:'(
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sending prayers your way, I hope he feels better soon.
Nina
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OMG! i am SO sorry! that is a horrible thing to happen, but i just hope he will be fine, and that you will solve the problem soon!
Leah
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Eider man is a little better this afternoon, he's more settled, not shaking like he was. Tremors is I guess a better word. It was clearly the central nervous system that was affected. The vet was pretty certain that it was something that would behave like malathion. My brother is in med school and sent me something about malathion poisioning and it follows those symptoms pretty closely, not all but a lot. Interesting I've been having some major lung problems and one of the sypmtoms is lung problems. Hmmmm. Connection? Brother pointed that out. This is wild. I have 3 more dogs here and 3 kids. I'd really like to figure out what it was. I kind of doubt it is rat poisoning. The only rat poison I use is the green feed-like bait. I use it in the fall only, put it inside a pen and close off that pen so that the chickens, dogs, etc won't get in there. Then I watch it carefully until it is all eaten. It is possible that something was hoarding that and he got it but I would expect to see it in what he threw up. I saw everything else in there! He doesn't have access to any houseplants but he can get into stuff outdoors. I know we have nightshade but I think that would die off in the winter. Not much is alive out there right now. We do have a little Rhubarb poking up through but it doesn't look like enough that he could really get at it. It is JUST peaking up. The thought has crossed my mind too about deliberate poisoning by someone. My husband has locked up a lot of people. It isn't outside the realm of possible. DH will be late tonight and has to go in early again tomorrow but we'll see if I can't get him out there to take a look and see if he can see something I've missed. Meanwhile, no dogs out at the barn! I THINK that is where the problem is... My almost 14 yr old Lab absolutely adores the little brat. She's already noticed that he's not here and she's clingy. This is so frustrating!
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I am SO sorry!! That's just awful...especi ally when there are SOOO many possiblities! We had an accidental poisoning with our first two Newfs with Ortho Snail Bait. They coat it with molasses, so it attracts not only snails but Newfs (and all other animals). They had a very similar reaction, but supposedly the active ingredient that's is in snail bait is very treatable. That is the very LAST time I've purchased any Ortho product!!!
Eider's in our thoughts and prayers!!! (and you too!!!!)
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Poor Eider - hope the poor little fella is feeling better soon and you get to the bottom of the mystery.
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Oh no, I'm so sorry about Eider. Sending positive thoughts (and prayers) your way that everything turns out alright for the poor little fella. Take care of yourself too please! ;)
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I am praying that he recovers quickly!...The poor little guy!
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I am hoping he is up and running around soon. Some poisonings are very treatable. You need to try and figure it out so he don't get into it again.
When I was a Vet Tech we treated the same dog three times in a row for the same poisoning before his owner figured it out. There were these rope like things That the people down the road from them used. It was strung between 2 trees and the cattle used to rub themselves on it. I was treated with insecticide and their dog kept getting into it
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Sending prayers for you and Eider.
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DH was able to come out to the barn with me tonight and we found one thing but the symptoms don't match. DH traps and there was some salted fish that one of the kids put down near the floor. That could be iodine or salt poisoning? Symptoms don't match. Some critter has been into it! We have a wild cat that has been in the barn so that might have been into the fish too but obviously it could have been Eider. I kind of doubt he was in it today though because he was only in that room for a minute. Jumped in there, came running back out with some paper that he chewed up. I forgot tonight to check out the bucket and look at that paper again but I thought it was just a McDonalds wrapper. I'll go out there and check that paper as soon as I'm done here. I'm going to the dump tomorrow (should have gone earlier but have been sick myself) and will take any form of poison we don't use (most of them) to the dump just in case. There's all sorts of stuff here from before we moved here! :-[ We don't use it so there's only bad that can come from it staying here. Can't believe I haven't dumped that stuff before now! (Kicks self). I certainly appreciate the ideas. I keep hoping someone will have a thought and it will trigger some idea in my mind. I haven't heard anything from the vet tonight so hopefully no news is good news... We do have a cattle rub but he can't get out to that. Dogs and cows don't mix well. Cows think dogs are for stomping, Pyrs included. The stuff that goes on the rub is one of the things I looked at but it doesn't look like there's any way he could have gotten into that. I WILL put it and the few things that will be left in a much more secure location! Lesson learned! Gosh, what a hard way to learn it! (Kicks self again while getting dressed to go out and look at the barf again)
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I'm so sorry this happened. We're sending good thoughts your way.
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So glad he's home, safe and sound!!! ;D ;D
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Interesting development... DH went to a dinner tonight and sat next to a veterinarian friend (used to be the vet to two of our dogs before their former owner died) who said he gets a lot of these cases in this time of year. Spring runoff! That one never would have occurred to me!!!! He said it can build up in their system to where it finally hits a level where you see the problem. I'm not hedging everything on spring runoff but I will do some more research and try to be more diligent to keep him out of EVERYTHING, even water out in the fields. Guess he's just going to have to stay attached to me at the hip if he goes to the barn. He's currently harassing Piper as is normal so he's pretty much on the mend. A bit tippy yet but I suppose that is not surprising.
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Wouldn't have thought of that either! Wow! A lot to consider!!! It's a good thing to have a pup attached at the hip!!!! :)