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phew these last few weeks have been very crazy for us sorry i haven't been keeping up with everything etc... basically, darcy is out of work now- the vet clinic he worked at closed down, and his teaching job is done til september... i've been doing alot of helping out at training classes with our trainer friend... I had a job interview at the movie store *fingers crossed, we need money*. our car needed new tires, breaks, breakpads etc. and they kept screwing up our orders, 1300$ later.... ugh. Repo has started teething, so he is chewing anything and everything he can get his mouth around...  we got a new leather couch on a friday, monday darcy went out of town for a teaching conference, he called me that night as i got up to answer the phone... repo had chewed a hole the size of two dinner plates in the couch... UGHHHHH! Pavi is STILL Marking all over the house, so now we use a diaper... he thinks we are punishing him so he freaks out if i touch him or call him to come inside cause he knows the diaper is going on... he is also barking like crazy and we have no idea how to stop it. (other than a bark collar which we tried and felt super bad after)....
SO theres my update... Today was the Bull Terrier Club of Canada's annual picnic... what great fun... we took Repo, Zero and Jigsaw, while mom doggysat Reba and Pavi. the picnic was in Mt.Albert, 4.5hrs drive from our place. we left at about 10 to 6 in the morning. arrived at 10:30am.  it was Sooo much fun. i love the bully picnic there were so many dogs probably about 40 bullies, a greyhound mix and a bulldog... we won a mug with our parking ticket. and i had to buy a t-shirt * i dont have pics of it yet but will post once i do* here are some pics from today
a mess of owners

this is Lucy


repo sneekin in for some play

a bully girl repos size

im still da cutes one here

zero relaxin

two reds head to head

bully olympics



Seamus, zeros friend. His owner, brandon made the t-shirts and does amazing paintings that i can not afford LOL

2month old bully boy named Kane

Zero watchin the olympics

Dancin with Dad

and gettin some lovin

a slew of bullies

Jigsaw dressed up for the costume contest


Jigsaw checkin out Ricky- her secret boyfriend

Handsome Ricky


sleepin on the ride home

a shoe tree

Cool gargoyles we saw on the ride home

and a moose- can u spot him?

General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Repo and the Dogues
« on: May 24, 2009, 04:49:09 pm »
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we took the dogs out running today... Oh my goodness what a day it was... Reba was being the biggest Miss Priss ever today. refusing to cross a 3inch stream of water to join us. pavi stayed there with her for most of the time too... then he got brave and joined us. reba did not... Repo faced his fears and dove in- he had a BLAST. Zero and Jigsaw, as usual had a great time splashing around, chewing on trees... they even pulled out a dead tree root and all from the ground

Bull Terrier Discussions & Pictures / Repo ***4 months Old
« on: March 17, 2009, 11:34:37 am »
Can you believe it? 7 weeks old already. i can't get over it. hes so big and baaad. He is going outside now. he isnt sure of the snow... but its been pretty nice the last few days so he's been kind of out (mostly on my porch). and he is learning to go to the door when he has to go out for a pee pee. What a smart lil boy i tell you.  *he doesnt learn this from my other ones let me tell you*
anyways without further ado...

first time doing stairs

Bull Terrier Discussions & Pictures / who needs a Repo Fix?
« on: March 10, 2009, 02:59:02 pm »
today our little Repo-Man turned 6 weeks old. he got his first set of shots, and his microchip today also...
And PLENTY of kisses...
Here are some new pics...
Hey, you kitty, help me up wood ya.

aww ma, u embarrass me

Jigsaw is getting her figure back

nom Nom nom

Can you sees me?

hows bout now

How'd you get up there? and why are you naked

why do i have 3 naked siblings?

WAHOOO im having so much fun

one ear up

stacked **don't mind me lol**

n the other side

and what good is a repo post without a video :)

General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Crufts TV
« on: March 05, 2009, 04:35:29 am »
anyone interested can watch Crufts here

Got this in our monthly Dogs In Canada magazine... thought you'd all like to read it...

Extreme concerns: Breeds suffer when traits are exaggerated
By Col. David Hancock, M.B.E., ARTICLE, LIFESTYLE

Small red-tan terrier: ears down it’s a Norfolk, ears up it’s a Norwich; is this the essential criterion for one breed to be identified from another, or just plain pickiness? Here are two admirable breeds separated solely by ear carriage. Is that enough, or one day when numbers are low or inheritable diseases encountered, will they merge? Horrifying for their devotees, perhaps, but does the general public appreciate such niceties? Does the man in the street know a Welsh Terrier from a Lakeland? Does the dog-owning community, all six million of them, really care about breed differences?

Form, function and breed identity
The first time I saw a Langhaar (German Long-haired Pointer) I thought it was an Irish Setter; it wore the same jacket: a solid rich chestnut, with feathering. I can easily confuse a parti-coloured Langhaar with a Large Münsterländer, but fanciers of those two breeds see them as very different. I can tell an Appenzeller from an Entlebucher, but only when they are side by side. If you put an Australian, Norfolk, Norwich and Lucas Terrier in the ring with a Portuguese Podengo Pequeño in the same coat colour, most spectators (as opposed to breed specialists) would have trouble separating them into different breeds, let alone identifying their breeding. It’s probably true, too, that most of the public is not as breed conscious as those who show dogs.

The head construction is often a decider when identifying breeds. The Braque St. Germain looks like our Pointer at first glance, but when you look at the stop and occiput then the ear carriage, it’s easier to separate them.  This is true, too, of the two recognized ridgeback breeds. A Thai Ridgeback has a different ear carriage from the Rhodesian version; most of the latter is stronger in build. Closer to home, the Mastiff is expected to be bigger than the Bullmastiff, but at world dog shows it’s easy to confuse the two. For me, the contemporary Mastiff has lost its classic head and is too heavy headed and loose lipped. But sadly, the Bullmastiff is now changing, with the help of show ring judges, from being 60-per-cent Mastiff 40-per-cent Bulldog to being 75-per-cent Bulldog 25-per-cent Mastiff – not what the pioneer breeders sought at all. A round-headed stub-nosed dog with a wrinkled forehead contradicts the Bullmastiff standard, but dogs bearing such features are richly rewarded in today’s show rings. There should not be such basic differences within a breed if breed-identity and breed-type are truly valued.

But has breed-identity prevailed over soundness in some breeds? The parties to the European Convention for the Protection of Pet Animals evidently think so. Their resolution on the breeding of pet animals, adopted by multilateral consultation 10 years ago, names guilty breeds. They aim to: set maximum and minimum values for height and weight in very large and very small breeds; set maximum values for the proportion between length and height of short-legged dogs (Basset Hounds and Dachshunds) to avoid disorders of the vertebral column; and set limits to exaggerations. The latter include: shortness of the skull that leads to breathing difficulties (citing the Bull-dog, Japanese Chin, King Charles Spaniel, Pug and Pekingese); abnormal positions of legs (straight stifles in Chows, Buhunds, Lapphunds), (bowed legs in Basset Hounds, Shih Tzu, Pekingese); very long ears (Cocker Spaniel, Bloodhound, Basset Hound); and markedly folded skin (Bulldog, Basset Hound, Shar-Pei, Pug and Pekingese).

It also seeks to set limits to abnormal size and form of eyes or eyelids (St. Bernard, Basset Hound, Bloodhound) and small, deep-lying eyes (citing four terrier breeds, Chows, Newfoundlands, etc.); as well as large, protruding eyes (Boston Terrier, Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, Dandie Dinmont Terrier, Brussels Griffon, etc.).

Of any country, Britain supplies the largest number of breeds in this list. Excessive coat could be added to concerns about discomfort resulting from exaggerations; a number of our breeds, never originally heavy-coated, now increasingly and quite needlessly feature too heavy a coat for the dog’s good. But it’s all in the name of the breed, I hear. What that usually means is it’s all in the name of show ring success; if they don’t look like that, they don’t win. This is no comfort to the dog or most owners coping with a discomforted pet.

Originally, function decided form – that is why the flock guardians all look like each other. It’s hard to tell an Estrela from a Caucasian Owtcharka, or a Tatra Mountain Dog from a Kuvasz. In scenthounds, a red Bloodhound resembles a Redbone Coonhound. In sighthounds, a smooth Saluki looks very much like a Sloughi and an Azawakh. In terriers, a leggy Jack Russell is much like a small Fox Terrier. In sporting spaniels, a Field is easily confused with a Sussex. It’s easier to separate the two cocker breeds, the American having the deeper stop and more prominent rounding of the skull, the more profuse coat and the downward slope from withers to croup. But these are exaggerations and in time may exaggerate themselves to an undesired degree.

A difference in size marks out the Leonberger from, say, an Estrela Mountain Dog, but it is forgivable to mix up a Cesky Fousek, a Korthals Griffon, a German Wire-haired Pointer and a Stichelhaar. Soon the difference between the Akita and the Great Japanese Dog will have to be noticed; I have only just managed to spot the difference between them and the Hokkaido. The waterdogs take some sorting out, the Spanish, Italian, Dutch, Irish and French breeds being quite similar, again showing the way function decided form across Europe. It is forgivable, too, to confuse a big, grey, shaggy-coated lurcher with a Deerhound or even an Irish Wolfhound. They are all expected to perform the same basic function. Breed differences, as our native terrier breeds show, often came with locality, with variations in each Lake District valley, for instance. But they were never exaggerations.

Form impeding function
The Bullmastiff’s head is one of its main breed points; it should not, according to its Kennel Club-approved standard, be Pug-nosed. The standard precisely specifies that the distance from the nose-tip to the stop must be approximately one-third of the length from the tip of the nose to the centre of the occiput. A shorter muzzle is a breach of the breed standard and an exaggeration. A well-known Bullmastiff breeder and judge told me that she has both correct and incorrect (i.e., too short) muzzles in her kennel. The dogs with approved muzzle length can run and run; the ones with incorrect muzzles are quickly out of breath and suffer in the heat.

I recently attended a game fair on a warm but not hot day. Several hundred dogs were present: a Foxhound pack, a Beagle pack, a collection of hunting Bassets for a competition on the flags, gun dogs for a scurry, working terriers for a show, racing Whippets and over 100 visitors’ pets. Of all these dogs only one, an American Bulldog with a short nose, became distressed by the warmth of the day.

Just over a decade ago I attended the World Show in Brussels; a Bulldog collapsed in the ring in the heat and had to receive emergency attention. Within half an hour, it was back in the ring, only to end up in the veterinary room, being given oxygen and covered in ice cubes. The wretched Bulldog just could not breathe properly through its muzzle-less mouth. This is direct cruelty and should be prosecuted. Our Kennel Club has amended the Bulldog standard to include: “Dogs showing respiratory distress highly indesirable.” But does every judge know of this?

Progressive exaggeration
Any humane fancier would ignore breed points that inflict disabilities, whilst lobbying for such a harmful requirement to be removed without delay. Competition should never preclude the best interests of the dogs as well as the breed.

But by itself a breed standard is just a start. The standard of the Bloodhound states very clearly “eyes neither sunken nor prominent” but I see show ring Bloodhounds with sunken eyes. Those in the Bloodhound packs, bred for function, do not feature such a liability. But the same could be said of Basset Hounds.

Nearly 20 years ago, the Dutch Ministry of Agriculture produced a booklet entitled Mooi, Mooier, Mooist (Beautiful, more beautiful, most beautiful) denouncing progressive exaggeration in dog breeds. It created little debate at the time. A few years ago, at the world congress of kennel clubs in Ireland, Uwe Fischer, president of the German Kennel Club, exhorted judges not to give awards to dogs with exaggerated, aberrant characteristic s, listing length of coat, eye size, shortness of muzzles and extremes in size in both giant and dwarf breeds. Are they listening?

Breed differences need not be exaggerations, as the terrier breeds demonstrate. Some breed differences are potentially harmful, because genetically they can be progressively exaggerated. But if exaggerated dogs could never win prizes, then real progress could be made. It needs a kennel club edict firmly instructing show ring judges to stop rewarding exhibits bearing exaggerated features that cause the dog distress. Bullmastiffs with jaws shorter than their breed standard stipulates should never become champions. Neapolitan Mastiffs deserve undamaged eyes.

The author of seven acclaimed books on dogs and  more than 600 articles published in a number of national magazines, Col. David Hancock, M.B.E., of Oxfordshire, England, has been studying dogs for 50 years.

(Originally appeared in our March 2009 issue.)

Bull Terrier Discussions & Pictures / REPO- 5 weeks old March 3
« on: February 28, 2009, 01:56:41 pm »
i had my hair done, so i had to get pics of me holding my baby boy... here they are

Breeding Questions & Information / palpate for puppies
« on: February 09, 2009, 05:58:04 am »
a breeder friend of mine (owner of jigsaws 'husband') has asked me to post this here, to see if someone can help her, and answer her questions...

I'm wondering if anyone has experience with palpating for the more "heavy" breed  puppies.
I have read up on it but its always different with a Bull Terrier off course (we breed these).
Its way harder to get thru the muscle tissue as I tried it yesterday with my Toller friend.
She palpate her Tollers (Nova Scotia Duck) all the time when expected to be pregnant.
They have a Toller bred at the same time we mate our Bullie girl Naphta, and I could feel the Tollers babies.
Very obvious there,felt like chestnuts for sure.
Her belly is softer,mushy more tender.
When we tried palpate Naphta we couldnt feel anything by gentle pressing.
And we didnt want to harm the possible embryo's.
So to make a long story short:

Does anyone know what day(s) would be the best to palpate,
with what success rate and in what position would be best to palpate a more Muscular breed in.
Any advice will be much appreciated

i havent shared a pic or two in a few days... so any fans of puppy- here is some recent shots and a video...

close up- you see his nose pigment is starting to come in.

being a puppy is so hard

mid yawn pic

sitting on my hand, his head is bigger than my hand, at 11 days old...

beautiful profile

mid itch

Smaller Sibling Discussion & Pictures / another Hairless in the family
« on: February 01, 2009, 04:25:29 am »
Lastnight, Darcy drove down south to pick up this extremely handsome dude... We haven't thought of a name to fit him just yet... but here are some pics of him with the other two hairless :)

Pavi the brave

And kitty alone

Smaller Sibling Discussion & Pictures / Oh My Gosh- My Bday Pressie!!!!
« on: January 29, 2009, 11:45:51 am »
I was just informed we are getting...
A SPHYNX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a friend of ours found him needing a home. Hubby is going to pick him up this weekend. YAY.
Liz & Lori now I will have a sphynxie, and ours can all be friends. YAY. he is a blue and white colored boy... Im very excited. Post pics when he gets here. My oh my i am going to have my hands full. hehe

our first baby born at Puzzled. He was a singleton, born naturally... I had a very long night with Jigsaw. 2:30am She gave birth to one beautiful baby boy. he is brindle with white and HUGE!  mom and pup are both doing well.

Smaller Sibling Discussion & Pictures / Introducing Pavi.
« on: January 17, 2009, 03:28:00 pm »
This is Pavi, our newest family member... he is a Xolo...
he gets along well with everyone and reba just adores him...

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