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LMAO, my friends down a few blocks from my house, calls me, screaming and crying she needs my help. 
A few weeks ago she bought a female English Mastiff from a lady that our vet recommended.  The family is moving and couldnt take her with.
Sela is a beautiful girl, but has some aggression issues with other dogs.
She doesnt like either of my dogs but has befriended her neighbors 3 female min schnauzers, go figure!
So I jump in the van and haul tail to her house thinking the worst and I get there and in the backyard is Sela hooked up to the neighborhood scamp, a smallish terrier mix!!!
Apparently, Sela started a heat and Kelly didnt realize it and this little vagabond climbed her fence and helped himself.
Everytime Sela tried to stand or walk the other pup would scream, that is how she found out he was there.
Im like what do you want me to do?   She says, undo them!!
Yeah, cause I have that kind of power!  I couldnt help but laugh at her like a loon.
She was planning on having her fixed and actually has an appt in 2 weeks.
She doesnt want the litter and doesnt want them to end up in a bad place. 
She feels awful and I wasnt a great friend because all I could picture was a wire-haired huge mongrel and I would laugh.
She is calling our vet tomorrow to find out what, if anything can be done.
Poor Sela thought she had done something wrong and hid under the table the whole time I was there.
I feel so bad for the poor girl.   When I left she was getting a scrub-down from her neurotic momma!
What an end to my day!

Anything Non-Dog Related / Canned Hunts
« on: March 09, 2009, 03:59:56 am »
OMG, this makes me sick.  Im watching animal planet and it's so sad.
I just dont get the purpose of a trophy hunt,  you cant eat the meat of a big cat and so many that they are killing are endangered.
What in the H*!! is wrong with people?!?!?!?

I got a  couple of pic's yesterday of my pups playing outside and some extra's that I found on the camera that are recent.

I brought Gunner in for his weigh in and 1 year check-up and this woman asked what breed he was. 
Her question was more of a statment,"He looks like a mastiff, maybe bullmastiff mixed with something, maybe pitbull."
I respond with, "he is a mastiff....(didnt get to finish my sentence and she replies) He looks to be a bit poorly bred because he is awful small for a mastiff, maybe he is mixed with a lab.
I reply with he is a mastiff mix, english/bullmastiff.
Her, "oh, goodness, your poor baby.  his parents must have awful conformation. 
I hope you didnt pay too much for him.
I asked her what makes her say that, she says he doesnt have a full black mask, he is small(his mother,bully, only weighes between 100-125 lbs) his nose is too long, his ears are too long and arent black.  He just doesnt have the stock to be a beautiful majestic mastiff.
I then replied with....we actually picked him because he didnt have a full mask, it set him apart from his siblings, his mom is small, but dad is huge 200+lbs and if he stays small, Im ok with that,  just as long as he is healthy and happy.   I dont care if you dont think he is beautiful or majestic, he loves me and I love him.
 We didnt get him to be a show dog or arm candy, he is a companion and family member.  I dont pick my pets for others approval.
She says,  you should care because you dont know what health issues may come up with him being mixed.  WHAT???
I told her, unless she was an expert and a reputable breeder of mastiffs, she need not speak to me any longer.
I was PI$$ed and surprised I didnt tell her to ram it!
The nerve of some people!!!!

On another note, my small mastiff mix at 1 year old weighs in at 110lbs...down 5 since we have started him on raw feeding.  Vet says for the next month, to bring him in for weekly weigh ins so we can adjust his food to support his growth.
Vet says he is perfect where he is, losing t he 5 lbs was ok since he is only 1 year old and still growing.  he doesnt want him to be overweight at all, not even by 5 lbs. but doesnt want him losing any more weight either.
I was totally surprised that he supported raw feeding as one of the other vets there doesnt and is very against it,
He says, as long as the pup and parents are healthy and happy and getting the proper nutrution he doesnt like to butt heads.  He says to keep on doing everything we are doing with Gunner, that he is a healthy, well mannered and trained boy with a wonderful personality.
I think I like this!

General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / An update on Millie
« on: February 25, 2009, 03:22:55 am »
The queen bee has found her throne!  I got a call from Kara last night to let us know how she was doing.
She is eating way better than she was here.  She hasnt growled, snipped or bitten any of the other dogs there or humans,  even during rough play.
She actually sleeps in her crate and crates without the constant whinning and barking.
She still barks her fool head off though when new people get there but they are working on that(none of Kara's other 4 barked non-stop when I was there).
She is also now going to a doggy daycare and finishing up her classes and is doing great with the smaller dogs but freaks when she see's the big ones.
Kara didnt say it but from the way she talked about  her I think, no I KNOW, Millie was very stressed here at our house.
cant say I blame her,  im pretty stressed here sometimes...lo l!
Baileigh did better than I thought she would, she shed some tears but it was short lived after her sister had a talk with her.  I just hope Tyler didnt make any promises I cant keep.
I feel better about it all now knowing that millie is doing so much better.
Oh, and she hasnt had one single accident since she has been there!!
The trainer called me too and offered me a partial refund on Millie's training because we didnt finish it but im gonna apply it to some socialization and refresher classes for Kira and Gunner.   They both seem to have forgotten the command "stay" lately.
Thanks again guys for the support.


I have mentioned the aggression issues between Kira and my daughter's chi and how for awhile my husband and Millie had issues.
Well, we sought help from a trainer/Behaviorist and found out that she has quite the napoleon complex but were able to semi-fix her biting issues.  basically,  she doesnt like kids and doesnt want to be handled by them. PERIOD!
She likes smaller dogs but becomes psychotic with the bigger ones, much to the detriment of her own life.
The trainer called me this am and has given his recommendation .
He said that there is no doubt that our family loves her but 1) we have a younger child, as  well as her friends who are over all the time and 2) we have 2 BP's that she hates,  although Gunner thinks she is just playing with him.

He said that keeping her in our household will likely make her more aggressive due to the fact that what stresses her most is not going away, IE Kira, and that as good as Kira is one day she will snap and Millie may not survive that.
He has recommended rehoming her.  My heart is breaking.
He said he has a young woman with other Chi's that he would like to set up a meeting with to see how she does.

Im going to go ahead with it, as it isnt fair to Millie or our other pups to be locked away from us when they all want to be with us but, for Millie to just out of no where, fly off the couch and attack a sleeping Kira unprovoked just cant happen anymore.

Kira has become a little withdrawn the last couple of weeks as the attacks have gotten more frequent.
Yesterday, Kira had her whole body in her mouth and if my son hadnt grabbed Kira's head she would have started that head shake and turned Millie into a rag doll.
I NEVER imagined this would turn out so bad.  I honestly thought with training she would turn around. 
The trainer said that 5 weeks of training really isnt enough but at this point Millie is in danger and so is Kira especially since she has become depressed.

I am meeting with them in a few hours, I hope I can do this.
I called our vet for a second opinion, as she has witnessed millie attack Kira and she said that she thinks the trainer is making the right recommendation .

GAHHHHH, this day started out with laughs and smiles with my kids but now im a complete mess.


Thank you all so much for the support.  It means alot to have people who understand what it means to have to make the decision to give up a pet, a pet that we consider a family member.

Millie has a new home as of 3 pm this afternoon.  We met at the girl's house, her suggestion, so I could see who and where Millie would be living.
She has a very nice home with LOTS of toys and a huge backyard, 2 other chi's as well as a pappy and a french bulldog which Millie gets along with so far.
Millie took to her quickly but when I got up to leave,  she ran to the door ahead of me and that is when the tears came.
I know she will be taken care of there, I could see that in how well she takes care of her other babies.
I told the older kids and they are ok with it.  They rather that she live some where else and be safe.
Now I just have to tell Baileigh,  even though Millie bit her several times, she still loves that dog.
So, im gonna buy her , her favorite ice cream and tonight after dinner(she has dance classes tonight, so she wont be home till later) we will tell her and we can bawl in ice cream together.
I have told Logan and Tyler as well as my husband that we will NOT be bringing another pet into this home until after Kira's days with us,  even though this is not Kira's fault.  It's just too hard.

Old English Mastiff Pictures / A belated Happy 1 year Birthday to Gunner!
« on: February 16, 2009, 03:35:03 pm »
I really am trying to get better at this, I swear!!

Gunner turned one year old on sat.  Yes, he is my Valentine's day baby.
On sat. he got a liver brownie cake made by a local doggie bakery and he got to play at the park for a few hours with some of the kids in our neighborhood.
On Sun. we took him to petco for lovin's and treats from his favorite people there.

Here are a couple of pic's from this weekend.  I got a new camera and the only shots that came out are the ones where  he was still.  I need to figure this thing out soon. :-\

Here are some of the fur kiddies from Dec.   I am a slow poke when it comes to posting pic's.
I have even more that I need to D/L to the puter. 
Gunner will be 1 on sat.  It doesnt really feel like it's been that long.

Last night hubby and I were in our garage cleaning it up a bit and I left the launry room door open since we were going in and out so much.
Usually Kira wont go inthe garage at all but since the doors to the outside were open she was laying in the LR door way watching us, so we thought!
Of course, Gunner has to be right up our rears so we were trying to make sure he didt go past our side walk and too close to the road.
I look back and kira is laying in the middle of the garage floor.  I think, OK She just wants to be closer to us too since Gunner is.
A minute later I see her army crawling on her belly closer to the outside.  I didnt say anything I just watched her and when she saw me watching her,  she stopped and rolled on her side and looked at me like "what? Just stretching ma".
I pretend to work again but im actually watching her and sure enough she starts doing it again as soon as she thinks im not watching.
She tried one more time and when I called her name, she flopped over and boofed at me.
Hubs and I had a good laugh but we made her go back in the house since she is a runner at the first opportunity and she was none too happy about that.
She would not come to me for the rest of the night because I made her come in the house.

The Dead Cow and Vet School


First-year students at the UC Davis Vet school were receiving their first anatomy class, with a real dead cow.

They all gathered around the surgery table with the body covered with a white sheet. The professor started the class by telling them, 'In Veterinary Medicine it is necessary to have two important qualities as a doctor: The first is that you not be disgusted by anything involving the animal body.' For an example, the Professor pulled back the sheet, stuck his finger in the butt of the dead cow, withdrew it and stuck his finger in his mouth.

'Go ahead and do the same thing,' he told his students. The students freaked out, hesitated for several minutes, but eventually took turns sticking a finger in the anal opening of the dead cow and sucking on it.

When everyone finished, the Professor looked at them and said, 'The second most important quality is observation. I stuck in my middle finger and sucked on my index finger.' 'Now learn to pay attention. Life's tough, it's even tougher if you're stupid.'


WOOHOO!!  It's Friday and Sunday is superbowl!!  I LOVE this weekend every year.   It almost rivals Xmas at our house....LOL


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Not so sure what I think of this.  May be great for those cow patties that come along with upset stomach.

Medical Conditions & Diseases / Stinky feet....what to do?
« on: January 26, 2009, 03:15:44 am »
Gunner, I swear has the stinkiest feet EVER!!!!
Last night I caught Baileigh trying to febreeze his feet.
I ended up putting him in the tub to wash his feet to get febreeze off and hopefully curb the cheeto/corn chip smell.
The rest of him doesnt stink or even really smell even 2/3 weeks after a bath just those huge paws.

What do you guys do for stinky feet?

Helpful Groups & Dogs in Need / Banging head on wall......
« on: January 10, 2009, 11:00:04 am »
Why must there be soooo many stupid people in this world?

Here is the first response copied if it gets flagged before you read it

Female Harly Dane Pup!


I am moving and can not take care of her, I am asking a rehome fee to cover vet expenses, please realize i paid a pretty penny for her, and she will be put down if i can't get what I need back by febuary 1st. sorry.

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