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Great Pyrenees Discussions / Re: Thank you Jackie.........
« on: August 29, 2005, 08:11:28 pm »
For your reply. Very much appreciated. Believe it or not, but Sam is getting obedience class from day one we got him. Every night, after dinner. For about a good two hours or sometimes longer. The only thing i forgot from day one, was to involve my family in doing this. But recently, i do, and Sam is improving rapidly. And my family, enjoys Sam even more, because Sam is finally paying attention, listening, to what my Wife and Son has to say. About Sam being chained. Unfortunately, we have no choice. Sam is in the back of our house. On a huge property, with a long.....long chain and a big.... i say BIG dog house to call his own. We live out in the country, surrounded by farm fields. But in the front of our house we have a busy road. We do not want to take the risk of Sam going on that road. That is why we have to chain him during the day.
And thanks to all the advice we get here from all the people being kind enough to share their experiences, and we, as a family trying to follow that advice with experiments, we and Sam are getting along better and better. It actually works  :D

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The Anatolian Shepherd Dog, also called the Karabash, is a large, noble and powerful livestock guardian. This is an ancient breed native to Asia Minor. It is also known as the Turkish Guard Dog where he protects flocks and serves as a shepherd's companion. On the high Anatolian Plateau, where summers are hot and very dry and winters are cold, the Anatolian Shepherd Dogs live outside all year round. He is very similar to the Great Pyrenees and the Kuvasz, but is more slender and agile. Capable of great speed and endurance. The Anatolian Shepherd is a very loyal, alert and possessive dog. It is intelligent and easy to train, but is not a dog for beginners. It needs a handler who naturally radiates leadership. Calm, steadfast and brave, but not aggressive. Independent, very watchful, proud and self-assured. Affectionate with their own family, but suspicious of strangers, especially after reaching adulthood. Strangers should be formally introduced before the mature dog is asked to accept them. The Anatolian Shepherd is possessive with respect to its home and property and will not allow anyone into the family property if the owner is not home, unless it has had frequent contact with the person, but he is fairly friendly with those people the family accepts. The dog is demanding of itself, and can be stubborn and dominant.

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Great Pyrenees Discussions / Re: GYPSY JAZMINE
« on: August 27, 2005, 12:10:42 am »
Our son, recently is picking up the power of standing his grounds. Not to make a move when Sam comes up and  running to charge him. And it works.  The less our son pays attention to Sams charges, the less Sam is trying to repeat his moves. Our son is noticing this change and he likes it and takes full adventage of it. But, probably, like every child does, he likes to take advantage of this and he starts to challenge Sam. Which i dont mind, because it is a good test for Sam. Upto now, it is going really well. We had a backlash,  week or two ago, when our son was trying to keep Sam from eating the cat food. Sam warned our son in a really nasty way to back off. This shocked me. He growled at our son and did a fake attack. He did not bite but he growled really nasty and did a fake attempt to bite our son and showed his theeth really nasty.
From that moment on, i let our son feed Sam. This was two weeks ago. Soon, i will let my son, under supervision, feed Sam, as usual, and let our son interrupt Sam, while he is eating, and let our son touch the food Sam is eating.  Someone on this board told me that this was the right thing to do in a situation like this. And it makes sense. BTW, you are so right about the Great Pyrs being so independent, that is probably what is making them so smart at the same time.  And what is making them excellent outside dogs. The thing is that our Sam is a cross breed of a Turkish shepherd and a Great Pyrenees, which makes him a bit differens from the pure breed pyrenees. But makes him twice the guard and watch dog i realised :)

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Great Pyrenees Discussions / Re: Hi there grumpybunny
« on: August 26, 2005, 11:40:42 pm »
I am not going to yell at you. I need your advice. I learn from people like you. I know were you getting at, good question. When we first got Sam, he was an inside dog, we tried to keep him inside. For weeks. Although, we knew, that the previous owners kept him outside day and night. Ever since they got him.
Me and my wife tought that that was kind of cruel for a puppy, so we kept Sam inide for about a month. After ripping and totally destroying most of our furniture, we decided to give it a try, we managed to get  Sam a large dog house and we kept Sam inside until it was bed time. When bedtime arrived, i would walk Sam to his outside doghouse, in our backyard, and leah him up to a chain, long enough to get into his dog house and wonder far beyond his dog house.  This turned out really well, Sam did not cry or bark at all. I will tell you that there were times, late at night, that Sam woke me up, i fell asleep, just to take him outside and leash him up in front of his dog house, outside. in the back, because he probably could not stand the heat in the house. He liked it outside.
All i am trying to say is that he prefers to sleep outside. But to answer your next question, NO, Sam is not going to be outside during the winter. He will be inside during the winter. That is why i am so curious and desperate to get Sam trained before the cold weather arrives. He will be with us, inside, during those cold winter nights. There is NO way i would let him out there by himself in the cold. 

Another question, Sam will be nutered. But right now, we do not have the money for this. I am a salesman. And the holiday season, November and December, is when i earn the most money. so Sam is going to be nutered in November for sure. And i hope that this will make it easier for Sam,  my wife and son.

Right now, i am the one, that spends the most time with Sam, i do so anytime i come home from work. My wife and son tried, to do the same thing, but they just dont have the power and strenght to deal with Sam. I am lucky that i do have the power and strenght to do so. Sam is very attached to me and he thinks that i am Alpha. My looks and body language will make Sam understand what is going on. It is amazing. Sam is like wax in my hands.  I just hope that one day, my wife and son can handle Sam the same way as i do right now. without any major hassles and injuries :)


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Great Pyrenees Discussions / Re: So how did you do it.......... ?
« on: August 26, 2005, 10:42:04 pm »
Thank you  GYPSY JAZMINE, i will for sure try to find something from Suzanne Clothier and read it. In the meanwhile, i do involve my son with everything,  right now,  that has to deal with Sam.  And i see that my son, as well as Sam is inproving.  Sam still like to chase my son, and try to impress him, scare him, but i noticed that when our son is trying to stand tall, and not to give into Sam, and not try to protect himself from Sams jumps, he is victorious over Sam and Sam backs off.
 

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Great Pyrenees Discussions / Re: So how did you do it.......... ?
« on: August 26, 2005, 10:27:44 pm »
Thank you LaurieW, Sam is indeed a very good dog and he is willing to learn. I can see his smile, everytime i go and get him for another walk or just to play with him. ( Sam is an outside dog for the summer, and has his own dog house outside). He gets so excited, everytime we are taking him off his outside leash, just to walk with him, that he hurts my son or my wife with his nails or play biting theeths. I am the only one that can take him of his leash without getting hurt. and sometimes, i have to discipline him, before i can leash unleash him. He gets so excited. but i do understand why. He is on a leah the whole day, outside, until we come home. So he is happy to see us all. I cannot blame Sam, but it has become to a point that my wife and son does not show much interest in Sam anymore, because he is just to wild to handle for them. I can handle him. dont matter how big he is and gets. But for my wife and son, the scratches and play bites are to much, they cannot stand up to Sam. They do not have the physical power or strenght. Now i told them, it is not about your power or strenght, it is all about the way you present yourself in front of the dog. Your posture, your voice, your actions, your moves, your body language and your brains. Just stay calm and give Sam no attention when he runs up to you to jump you........... ....... stick out your knees if you want to, to avoid the jump. Make Sam know that you do not appreciate what he is doing. Hurt him, i know, sounds bad, but only once, if you can, just to let him know that he cannot do this again. So he will understand that his actions will have results he wont like, painful ones. But, it does not help, although, Sam is getting a bit better with my son. Which i am involving, my son, in every minute, which i spend with Sam, for a week or so now.
 

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Thank you Peggy  :)

For you positive input. You should see Sam right now. He is about 6 months older and way.... way bigger and very muscular. I really like your positive attitude, like saying that our whole family will it out. I believe so too. Thank you for positive reply and your care......... I really do appreciate this and i do get, i mean we all do get a boost from this. It helps us my wife and son to believe in Sam and to continue to care for him just as much as i do. Thank you again. 

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Anything Non-Dog Related / Thank you Tina
« on: August 26, 2005, 09:54:57 pm »
Thank you for your reply Tina. And say hi to Jack from me. Just like Jack, Sam, had very little training, probably NO training at all. Anyways, i started training Sam, with very good results, from the moment we got Sam. The only thing i forgot about, was the rest of our family. I started spending as much time as i could with Sam.  And the results were amazing.  Sam is a good dog, one on one with me.  But now he thinks that he it is me and him. He jumps our son, trying to hump. and he tries to challenge our son, to be as fearless as our Sam is, he looks at me everytime, like he is trying to say, look at me boss, i am just as furious as you are, when he runs over,  or jump into my son, or wife. Never stopping until i tell him to stop, and every once in a while, when i tell him to stop, he goes just crazy and runs into circles for minutes until he gets tired.   

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Great Pyrenees Discussions / So how did you do it.......... ?
« on: August 26, 2005, 09:30:36 pm »
We are very lucky to have Sam as being a part of our family.
Sam, when being with me, is an excellent, example, and perfect dog when one on one with me alone. I just have to whisper a command and Sam will obey. But when other family members are around, like our son and my wife, Sam seems to forget all the training and discipline we both went through, the last couple of months. Sam thinks that i am the mubero uno in the pack, and that he is numbero two. My wife and son should become first. what did i do wrong ? Should i involve my wife and son into the training of our puppy dog Sam ? If so, please give us some deatailed advice so we can try and tell you about the results. Our Sam is half Turkish shepherd and half great pyrenee. 11 months old now and not nutered yet.  

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We are very lucky to have Sam as being a part of our family.
Sam came into our family when he was 7 months.
Sam, when being with me, is an excellent, example, and perfect dog when one on one with me alone. I just have to whisper a command and Sam will obey. But when other family members are around, like our son and my wife, Sam seems to forget all the training and discipline we both went through, the last couple of months. Sam thinks that i am the mubero uno in the pack, and that he is numbero two. My wife and son should become first. what did i do wrong ? Should i involve my wife and son into the training of our puppy dog Sam ? If so, please give us some deatailed advice so we can try and tell you about the results. Our Sam is half Turkish shepherd and half great pyrenee. 11 months old now and not nutered yet.   

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Great Pyrenees Discussions / Re: TOP TEN DOG PEEVES ABOUT HUMANS
« on: August 26, 2005, 08:25:02 pm »
And Sam says hi to everyone, and Sam wants me to update his picture on this site, since the picture of Sam, on this site, was made when he was about 8 months old, Sam is about 11 months old right now and grew alot bigger.  8)

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Great Pyrenees Discussions / Re: TOP TEN DOG PEEVES ABOUT HUMANS
« on: August 26, 2005, 08:16:52 pm »
I apologize for the spelling errors, after all, i am a foreigner LOL :P

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Great Pyrenees Discussions / Re: TOP TEN DOG PEEVES ABOUT HUMANS
« on: August 26, 2005, 08:14:16 pm »
So true, we think that we are so high above our dogs, because we can think we can control them with our training, our discipline, our love and care, and our tone of voice. But in reality, they own us. Because we think that they are so cute, reliable, trusted, obedience, loyal, dependent and loving. but in fact, it is all a conspiracy, a national, world wide, dog conspiracy. They are just way morre reliable, than we used to be, they are just more trustedm, than we ever used to be,  they are just more obedience, than we ever used to be, they are way more loyal, than we used to be, they can be indepent, way more than we could ever be, and they love, the way we use to love, a long time ago. They are closer to nature in comparisment to us, just like we were once.  Let us pressure these creatures we call dogs, just like every other animal on this planet. Because they are still their original state, animals, like we used to be, a long time ago  :D

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Great Pyrenees Discussions / Re: Dancing Pyr
« on: August 19, 2005, 07:19:38 pm »
That is so  cool. I wish i could see this. I do know that the Pyr is well known to smile. Sam does smile whenever he is content. I looked into this and i found out that the Pyr does really smiles if content :)

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Introduce Yourself to the Forum / Re: New Pyr on board
« on: August 18, 2005, 08:53:42 pm »
Kiah is beautiful and Sam says Hi :)
(Sam is Anatolian Shepherd/Great Pyrenees Mix)

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