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  Found it!  Hope this helps!!  http://www.gentlegiantsrescue.com/about.htm

Does the actor who played the Original Robin, Boy Wonder on the old Batman series do Giant Breed Rescue out in California?  Let me go looking for the site.   

  That is truly sad!  Does anyone know if she's been found yet?  What of her adventures?  Will say a prayer for Lacy..   

AMs are bred in the States, have been around for about 20-years, and were started by experienced OEM breeders -- to correct certain problems that many OEMs have: excessive drool, joint problems, shorter lifespans, etc.  AMs tend to live pretty long for such a large breed; 12+ years (or even 15-years) aren't uncommon, and they have a tighter mouth to avoid those slobber woes.

 

 As for the health issues, I wouldn't know.  The drooling, not true.  They drool just as much as a true English Mastiff.  I've heard it straight from AM owners themselves. 

I did not start out to bash the AM.. I just ask that folks offer up ALL the information, especially that AM's are a mix and unregisterable and they drool.     

I'm glad your puppy is working out for you.  As I'm happy that Goliath is an amazing puppy.  I couldn't be happier that folks have found the right dog for their family.  But having experienced both breeds, personally and in rescue.  I'm only stating facts.  Not something passed along to me by way of the grapevine. 

I merely want folks to understand the difference.  Then make an educated decision, nothing more.  Frankly, I could care less which dog they chose.  The less the English Mastiff is chosen as a pet, the less likely it is to become popular.

Believe it or not, I get that.  So.. by all means, chose the AM over the EM.  I just feel it's appropriate to GIVE OUT ALL the information, not just one side of it.  These dogs, regardless of choice, AM or EM, are not for everyone! 

Furthermore, I'm deeply skeptical of any AM-bashing OEM booster who has a distant friend with something critical to say -- particularly when they won't even name which AM breeder they went to!

I'm sorry, I have absolutely NO idea what you speak of here.  I have no distant friend who has ever owned an AM.  So.. Unless you know something I don't, you have me here.

it makes me question their motives.

My motives are simple.  Simply stated, give them ALL the information.  ALL the potential for this and that, health wise especially.  Also, since it is a mix, give them an EM breeder to chat with about the differences.  Allow them to decide for them selves.  I couldn't make it any plainer.

I have absolutely no animosity towards any dog.  Regardless of breed.  It is and should always be ALL about education.  The WHOLE of it, not just one half. 

For those with AM's with amazing temperaments and great health.  AWESOME, I couldn't be happier for you!  These dogs deserve to be happy and loved.  So.. Please do not think I'm bashing, I merely mean to offer up ALL available information. 

I know this is nuts, but I want an Apricot Mastiff now. My middle daughter (and other female of the house) is going to college and I have another bedroom available for a big slinger/couch potatoe.

I think it's my way of coping with empty nest  syndrome or the fact that the testostreone level in the house will now be 4 to 1.

What do you all think?

Did you ever get your Apricot Mastiff?  It is a beautiful color.  Had a boy some years back, he was soo red and enormous, we called him Clifford.  lol We even registered him as Clifford the big redd dawg. 

Good luck on your search.  And here, www DOT infodog DOT com this site will help you find a local Confirmation show, sancationed by AKC, and you can meet and greet English Mastiff breeders who come to exhibit.  It's a great way to meet the actual dogs.

Gotta love the drool 

Your American Mastiff is a mix of Anatolian Shepherd and English Mastiff, an unregistered bred in it's infancy of development.   www DOT mastiffWEB DOT com will give you a wealth of information on both breeds.  Just do a general search.   

The English Mastiff, or Old English Mastiff is the correct and true form of the Mastiff.  From there, you have your BullMastiff, Boerboel (African Mastiff), Cane Corse and Neapolitan (both Italian Mastiffs), Tibetan Mastiff, and the list goes on. 

Should you have any other questions, check out www DOT mastiff DOT org, the National Mastiff Club of America.  It will give you a ton of information. 

Sorry, if my views aren't appreciated.  I was just asking if these AM's were true American Mastiffs (mixes) or English Mastiffs bred right here in the US.