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Yikes! ::passes a beer to Gypsy Jazmine and Roxy:: I hope you both feel lots better!

I'm having one of those days as well.  Hubby and I are starting a new business, and it's a scary thing.  The yellow pages ad went in today...contra cted for a year...no turning back now.  ::shudder::

Hmmmm...where did I put that beer.... 


Jen

Weeeelll.....N ot sure you're gonna get a firestorm, John.  But I'd like to post a more moderate view of Peta. 

The fact that these people are lunatics and have hurt the credibility of animal rights groups...I 100 percent agree!

On the other hand, Peta brings to light the horrors that the more moderate groups don't. Things the mainstream press ignores.  I am torn between loathing their methods and  thinking that someone needs to step up and expose what goes on. If these people get a little nuts in the process...well, I can only say that what goes on is enough to drive a person there.

I recently followed a link which ended up putting me on the PETA site. I saw a video there on the fur trade, and I will never be the same. Ever.  (This is not the gentler Martha Stewart version.) Yes, I knew fur was bad, but my god, I hope never in my life to see such suffering again.  There is bad, and then there are things so horrendous it defies words and makes me ashamed to be human.

I then followed another link from Peta to read about Iams and their funding of animal testing. They presented a reasonable discussion, I thought...not the usual insanity.  You can read about it here:

http://www.iamscruelty.com/iams-feat-wsu.asp


My point is, they serve a purpose. They are tireless in their fight for animal welfare, and they keep the public informed....th ose who will still listen to them.  Yes I wish they were less insane about it.  But someone needs to step up and say enough.

Jen

Quote from: GYPSY JAZMINE on September 28, 2005, 11:06:17 am

You forgot the old standard curling iron burn lie...lol!

That darn curling iron got me out what could have been many nights of being grounded!!!

Vitamin K is good to reduce bruising (as well as nasty undereye cirles).  It pulls the blood away from the surface of the skin.  You can get it in oral capsuls or an ointment at GNC, or any health food store.

ROFL!! One time I had a gen-u-ine curling iron burn.  No kidding it was.  (Hey, it was the 80's!) Someone asked what had happened, and I said a curling iron.  I  got the "yeah, uh-huh"  look hehe.

What pretty babies you all have!!  That video sure made me smile! 

Oh, what a sweet, happy face Zima has! She is adorable and the slipper look made me chuckle!

I'm so glad your neighbor is taking better care of his puppy.  He is probably the type of jerk who has to bluster before he thinks.  Then later on, he probably thought about what you said and took it to heart.

I'm glad it's all worked out well.

I truly feel for Kuvaszman, his children, and poor Jasmine.  I can only imagine the pain that family must be feeling right now.

I am so happy to hear that Jasmine will be getting another chance.  Since reading this post and others, I've read up on the breed a bit.  What amazing dogs!

Thank you so much Deena and all those who reached out to this family.  Thank you for keeping us posted on what happens!

Jen

Okay then, let me rephrase since some want to refute the notion that dogs dont' understand sometimes.

Dog's don't understand someone who is the leader SOMETIMES, and not others.

If you are not the day to day LEADER FIGURE, if your dog decides to behave like a butthead and you step up to the plate to THEN be the leader, your dog is not likely to recognize that fact.

Particularly some dogs who may be "social climbers" within the pack structure.

If you want the respect of your dog in highly charged situations, you must be the clear leader all the time, not SOME of the time, and especially not just when the doo doo is deep.

Oh, I absolutely agree with you on that.  I know that dogs need (and want) consistency from their owners.  With difficult dogs we can't sometimes want to be in charge and othertimes give in.

Ya know, it's kind of like with kids.  If you ever notice, the ones who are bouncing off the walls, hanging off the guide ropes in line at the post office are the ones whose moms are  saying,  "no no no no hehe aw come on" without ever following through. 

Anyhow, I didn't mean to sound like I was refuting the idea of consistency with dogs.  When pndlake mentioned how much dogs are capable of understanding, even understanding "sometimes,"  it reminded me of a story.