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Here's a way I feel everyone can help.
When you see these stories\
First find out where it happened and the address to the local prosecutors office.
Be it in Canada or the US.
Then post the story with the mailing address
and write them a letter.
NOT an email
Emails can get deleted, and no big deal,
but hundreds and thousands of letters have to be delivered
they are not easily deleted.
They take up space, they make an impression.
Write how these are totally unacceptable crimes and
should not be tolerated.
The person needs some serious jail time and psyc help.
Then forward the story (with the same request with mailing addresses) to everyone you know and post to every group you are on.
When cities and towns and providence's get hundreds and thousands of letter, how can they ignore such an outcry?

Spending less than 30 mins researching mailing addresses, writing a brief hand written letter and then the what? .43 cents (a little more if the letter is going to another country) Is not much to offer as a tribute to this poor dog.
(and others like her who are abused.)

This should be done with all violent animal and human crimes and maybe after enough letters (millions) little by little we can make a difference.

JMHO

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General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Re: Big Paws Needs Support
« on: October 24, 2006, 12:33:37 pm »
Can you give us an idea of what it costs per month to run this site?
And are the donations rolling in since you made it know you need help? I sure hope so.Will be sending something your way on our next payday. Keep up the good work.

I had been wanting to help, however
no one ever answered this question above that I posted
over a month ago.
I know there is a new post from what I am guessing
is the admin of this site asking for more help,
I see many saying they will help.
In order for me to help I would like to have my questions answered?

How much does it take to run this site per month?
Are you achieving that with all those who said they would help or are you falling short each month?
Before I donate I always like to know what a groups
monthly needs are and how close they are to achieving that goal for the month they request help.
Thank you

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Newfoundland Discussions / Re: My heart is BROKEN!!! Polly Update!
« on: October 23, 2006, 08:50:09 pm »
Amy Lyn,

I believe it is a heart breaking experience.
To get all syc'ed up about a new dog, and have ones kids all  syc'ed too, just to have it go the way it did with your family is awful.

Chalk it up as a lesson learned, thank the Good Lord no one was seriously hurt and move on.
Heal, talk about it with the kids and when the time is right if I were you I'd go get a puppy  ;D

This is a wondeful opportunity to teach your kids, life is filled with choices and we all make mistakes, it's how we come out of the experience with what we learned and how we use that new knowledge that counts.

You DID do the right thing.
Had it been me I would of marhed that hairy butt right back to the breeder too.
(((hugs)))
Looking forward to sometime down the road hearing about a new 4 legged family member your family gets.

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Newfoundland Discussions / Re: My heart is BROKEN!!! Polly Update!
« on: October 20, 2006, 03:59:00 pm »
Ok, forgive me in advance but I'm gonna be
the bad guy here.
1) I'm assuming that since the dog
was not raised with kids it was an adult dog?
(Over 1 y/o)
WHY in the world would a breeder place a dog
in a family of children if said dog was
not raised with children?

2) I find it hard that a dog snapped and bit on more
than one occation just cause it was in a new home
and the breeder said it never did that before?
My first reaction is never did it my A :o :o

I'm sorry but I can't see any dog doing these things
that was properly raised, trained and socialixed.

3) Many states require dog bites to be reported.
What if this breeder places this dog again
(egardless of what she clains she will do)
and the next child is not as lucky as your daughter.
The next one may lose an eye.
Sorry, don't mean to burst everyones
sweet nicey nice bubble here
but hearing this stuff makes me ill.   >:(

And no offense but please read over what you told us.
Seems like you had a reason or excuse for everything this dog did.
I'm not trying to offend just help you see what I see.
Thete is just no excuse for this behavor and
your daughter almost paid the price.
Signed,
a mom, a grandma and an animal lover

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Helpful Groups & Dogs in Need / Re: Another Pyr boy needs a home
« on: October 18, 2006, 05:33:52 pm »
I'd be interested in him.
I sent an email to the shelter and will call tomorrow.
I've been looking for a LGD.
I realize though since he's a stray we don't know his background. I'll call tomorrow and try to get all the information I can.
If I went through with adopting him, how long would you be willing to foster him?
I'm scheduled to be in Utah around the 12th of Nov, could pick him up on the way home.
I'll only be about 3 to 3 1/2 hours from that area.

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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Re: Niki's surgery completed, she's ok
« on: October 18, 2006, 08:34:59 am »
Any news? 

Julie

Nope not yet, they said it would be about 10 days for the report to get back.
It was mass cells we just need to know if it is a lesser type or an aggressive cancer.
I'm pretty optimitic as the vet says most come back a 2 (scale is 1 to 3) and most dogs never get another lump.

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Keep in mind shipping an animal from one country to another is not like it use to be pre 911 and can be a royal pain.
It's also cheaper to fly with the pup than to ship alone.

I would also highly suggest you call your State / Providance vet and see what is needed (besides a health certificate) for a dog to enter Canada from the US.
One thing you may want to consider it to have the pup flown in to Seattle and you can drive it back over the border at Blaine or Lyden. (about 2 to 3 hours south of the peace arch crossing.
Best wishes

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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Re: Lady is going under the knife
« on: October 16, 2006, 01:52:14 pm »
Hope all goes well.
Mozart, Niki and I are sending warm wishes and hugs to Lady.
Niki just had surgery today and I know what worrying us two legged do. Hugs to you too, you'll need them  :)

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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Post Surgical questions
« on: October 16, 2006, 01:48:50 pm »
The vet's office is now closed and it is not an emergency.
Was hoping folks out here may know.
I always have my critters stay at the vet's one night but for some reason I didn't this time.

When n animal has surgery
1) How long is it before they are out of that surgical /anest fog?

2) Do dogs (and she is short haired, a pittie)
out of surgery need to be a little warmer than usual?
Are they more sensative to coolness during this time?

Niki is on our bed recuperating.
She was out of surgery about 10 am, so it's been like 8 hrs.
Since I have always my animals stay one night I'm in unfamilar territory bringing her home the same day.
Any insight as to what is normal and what isn't would be greatly appreciated.
She is on the bed with the door closed so Mozart and the cats won't bother her (paper says to keep her quiet and calm) Last time I checked on her she was trembling a little so I covered her up with an oversized thick bath towel.
She just had that lumpectomy on her rear leg.
It doesn't lok bad at all, but I bet it may be sore.
They said she dod not need pain meds.
But had it been me after surgery I sure would of wanted some  ;D
Please tell me what is normal and what I should expect. Thank you so much.

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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Niki's surgery completed, she's ok
« on: October 16, 2006, 06:46:08 am »
Some of you may remember I asked opinions and advice back in August about a lump on Niki's (my Pit Bull) leg and then my posting about the needle biopsy last month.
Niki has her surgery done this morning, the lump removed and to be sent to be graded. Hopefully it is a low grade tumor.
She is doing fine and will be home in a few hours.
Thank you for the well wishes, prayers and good thoughts in my earlier post.

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Please cross post and get the word out.
THis is a partial map of areas in the country that are NOT pet / dog friendly.

http://www.mydoglaw.com/

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I know they aren't big paws, but wanted to post this, hope it's ok.
I feel folks should know about it.


http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/principal-who-shot-kittens-could-face/20061014204309990008?ncid=NWS00010000000001

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I was wondering if anyone else here deals with family who visit who are not animal lovers?
I have to crate my dogs when my mother comes to visit. Luckily these visits are short and only once or twice a week. I still fel bad for my 'kids'

I do out of respect vacume change throws on chairs before company comes.
What all do other folks have to deal with?

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Helpful Groups & Dogs in Need / Re: How many is to many?
« on: October 14, 2006, 09:25:43 am »
LOL no need to apologize.
This is quite educational.
As some of you may know I plan to open a sancuary some day. I am currently educating myself as to all aspects of this endeavor. Taking classes and seminars and workshops and visiting sancuaries.

Me personally, I don't care what anyone thinks about em cause I know in my heart how my animals are family to me.
I'm just that way.  :D ;D :P
I tell my son to mind his own business all the time.
(BTW I have a cat I got from this son 3 years ago that he and his wife wanted to be rid of after my granddaughter was born, the same son who thought I should put such cat to sleep when it had an urinary blockage about 2 years back and the surgery was like $600.)  :o

I know rescuers who have 20 and 30 dogs but thinks a person with more than 2 has to many.
I have seen filthy homes with only 2 or 3 pets and then went to a rescuers home 10 years back and could not believe how clean and clean smelling her place was as I counted at least 12 cats. (She is kind of my roll model, I remember her place so well)

I guess much of this subject can be ones personal opinion. My other son (who by the way I have his dog for the last almost 2 years) thinks everyone should have one dog and they were so smug about their $300. petmart doggy bed.  ::)
Heck for $300. I can go and get 15 cushy comforters that would last one dog 15 years  :P
When I get into this sancuary stuff, what would I look for in home interviews/visits with multiple pets?

For me,
seeing health records
How the animals interact with each other
Their sleeping and eating quarters
Their ourdoor space
What kind of food do they feed
Cleanilness
Talking to neighbors
Etc

I know anyone can come to my home at anytime and
they can tell the house was vacumed that day and there is no more than about 8 hrs of poop and pee in the litter box.
(That's if they come first thing in the morning when I wake up)  ;)

And another thought, why do some want to live in a huge home requiring so much upkeep, or a tiny apt with no room, or a farm, I guess we all have out preferences.
I have seen dogs in apts better well rounded and happy than on a huge farm.
Case by case I guess.









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Helpful Groups & Dogs in Need / Re: How many is to many?
« on: October 14, 2006, 06:50:57 am »
Neat to see the answers, hoping to see more.
But here's some food for thought  ;D
I was a caretaker for a horse ranch.
I fed nearly 70 horses 3 times a day.
Ok as they got fed they got talked to.
As they got watered they got talked to and petted.
If one was out of sorts I could tell.
I went in between feeding times and checked on them, talked to them. I cut up carrots and apples and threw in some horse cookies and went each night and gave them out.
No I didn't clean stalls, but the folks who did didn't care for the horses like I did.
Now I can personally see myself taking total care of say 35 (what I mean is cleaning stalls and putting them out in the mornings and bringing them inside at night.

I can see caring for 70 dogs, (Physical work and attention wise, not finacially) but I won't lol
I know mushers who have 40 and 60 dogs who love and care for them dearly. I know mushers who don't.  :'(

And my personal situation, my son  :P says I am weird and abnormal  ;D (not that I give a hoot)
I have 9 cats, 1 outdoor and 8 indoor. Most are rescues.
I vacume my home each day, sometimes twice. I clean the litter boxes out at least twice a day. They are loved and wanted and UTD on shots and spayed and neutered. (except for one who needs to be done in the next month)
Two don't want any attention although I kind of gently force it on them so they are not toally wild. The others are always getting a snuggle here, a pet there, being talked to. When I am on this pc there are usually 2 on the back of my chair purring in my ear and at least on in the chair with me or on my lap  ::)
So what is so weird and abnormal about me?
My life, my choice. I tell my son to mind his own business. :D  I know my limits, I stopped fostering for a rescue cause I was adopting my fosters  :o ;)

So in our evaluations where does one draw the line before assuming another is a horder?
To me if they are loved, wanted, fed well, vetted, groomed and clean (can't say not starved for attention cause I have seen one dog only homes where the dog feels no amount of attention is enough)  ::)

Going into rescue and the upcoming workshops I am going to take, I am very much interested in what I may come up against. Knowing my yuppy sons think their country mum is totally whacked  :D (Even though I have a throw away dog from one and a throw away cat from another.)  >:( :'(

Maybe sometimes folks are to quick to judge and sometimes not. Looking forward to exploring this topic more, keep it coming  ;)

Signed,
Momma of 9 cats, 10 rabbits, 15 goats, 2 dogs soon to be 5.
and as of this coming Weds, 110 chickens.
E I E I OOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOO   :D





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