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Ok... please, I don't mean to be nitpicky (maybe I do) but the breed is an American Pit Bull Terrier. So call them Pits, or Pit Bulls or APBT's , but a "pitbull" is not a breed.  - done.

I am curious too about the questions Nicole asked- does your brother title his dogs?  Compete in events (CGC, weight pull)?  Does he do complete health testing (includes hip and elbow x-rays, cardiac and thyroid tests, as well as testing for genetic problems?  Does he have waiting lists for his litters?

If the answer is "no" to any of these questions, I'm sorry to say that he is only contributing to the problem of the many,many Pit Bulls who do need homes.

H Ask a Animal control worker which breed they get calls on the MOst, and which breed they have been attacked by the most.... It would again be Pitbull....

Having worked in a Humane society setting for a good amount of time, I would absolutely disagree with this statement- 100%.  I can think of one - MAYBE 2 times I had to use a catch pole on a Pit.  When I think of the breeds that routinely went after us the ones that come to mind are:
Min Pins

I know many others in the animal control field who will also back me up on that statement. (about the APBT's that is)

Lucian has a weird new habit of climbing up on our very wide windowsills and sitting there- this should be especially amusing as he continues to grow.

We went for a nice walk around the neighborhood last night (I'm taking care of a diabetic cat for 2 weeks who lives about a mile away):

Hi again,
Besides doing my part and attempting to debunk the media's attempts at railroading one of my favorite breeds of dog, I also spend a great deal of time educating the public (and less dog savvy folks) about what exactly is involved in owning one of these guys.

One perfect example of this is my somewhat controversial (to some) stance on Pitties and dogparks.  My Reef girl is not dog aggressive.  I have had her for 6 years - she has been exposed to countless fosters and boarders of all shapes, sizes and personality types coming in and out of this house (not to mention many different species- from rats to cats to squirrels to possums to raccoons to ..oh you don't even want to know!)  She meets every dog on the street with a friendly sniff and then, if they know their manners, a play bow and maybe even some zoomies if they get to know each other *really* well!  (if there is attempted humping involved she'll give a warning bark and turn the other way!)  All this being said- she will NEVER go to a dog park.  Nor do I think that any Pit Bull belongs in a dog park in this day and age, be it the most placid and peaceful of dogs.  My reason for this- if an altercation starts- between ANY dogs- if the bully goes to check it out- pack mentality takes over- if it gets involved in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM- guess who is going to be blamed?  The evil Pit Bull.  Case closed.  If a toddler (who shouldn't be in a dog park anyways) gets knocked over by a overzealous dog and it happens to be a Pit Bull - it's going to get spun as an attempted "attack" - The breed simply can't handle it.  My Reef girl gets to go to street fairs, trail hikes, camping and all sorts of fun adventures, but the dog park is forever off limits, due to her "race".

I am going to fully agree with what was stated in the "Good Pit Bull Post".

As someone who has extensive experience with Bully breeds for the past 9 years (I own a 6yo APBT, have fostered and continue to foster countless bull breeds and did behavioral work at a bull-exclusive shelter), here are my experiences with these wonderful dogs:

1) Pit Bulls make lousy guard dogs!  (I had to teach my girl to bark/growl by wiggling my eyebrows and now when I ask her to make noise, she lets out this coonhound-esque bay while waggling her entire rear end). This is a breed that was bred for many, MANY years to be extremely non-human aggressive. What sense would it make to breed a dog that was once used for fighting to turn and latch onto the human that was trying to intervene and break up a fight? - none.  A human aggressive Pit is not a stable pit.   It is true that they may have dog/animal aggression, but not all American Pit Bull Terriers are this way.  An APBT that shows a tendincy towards human aggressive should get one simple solution - an injection of pink juice.  It may sound harsh, but these wonderful dogs don't deserve any more bad press.

2. I'd just like to throw out a few statistics...b ecause the math frustrates me:
The information at is meaningless at best.

“According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question.”

When you lump together “pit bulls” and “pit bull mixes” - essentially redundant designations that encompass an extremely huge population of mutts, along with another popular breed, Rottweilers you get just over 50% of serious dog attacks. Is this a surprise? A pit bull is in the eye of the beholder, and when that eye is a news reporter looking for a fantastic story or a policemen, it’s usually the dog that just bit someone.

The statistics regarding children are also misleading. Most serious dog attacks are on children. Period.

Then lets look at these:
Let’s take the (Very flawed) CDC statistics (a study they did where they tracked dog bites from 1979-1998) for an example, even as flawed as they are.
“Pit Bulls” (and mixes) are responsible for 76 deaths in 20 years according to the study. That averages out to 3.8 deaths -per year-.
Okay. Sure.
In 2004, there were approximately 1,117 children that died by neglect and/or abuse at the hands of their own parents, according to the Admistration for Children and Families. That averages out to 3 *per day*.

Are we working to ban parents too?

You have to do what you're comfortable with (and what your rug can take!) It sounds like the crate is not too small for him at this point.

Lucian hasn't ever slept in his crate at night and has been trustworthy, but it started by my attaching his leash to his collar and putting his bed right next to ours.  If he even rolled over in the middle of the night- out we went!  Luckily now I can sleep most nights from 11pm until 9 am!  (umbilical-leash free!) So if you do decide to wean him off of it, it's a good method to start with.

FAQs about puppies / Re: Lucian's 8.5 week weigh in! (16 week update)
« on: June 02, 2007, 07:45:43 am »
Well, Lucian was a big hit at the vet as always yesterday!  The tech is a friend of mine and made sarcastic comments about how "He's so fearful and unsocialized" and "Dan, it's obvious you don't take him ANYWHERE" as he puttered around behind the counter, greeting everyone and everything (including hissing cats) with a wagging tail and a grinning "smile". 

He got a good look over and a ton of praise on his development, though Justin (his vet) still can't believe how big he is (or how big he's going to be!)- he weighed in at 47 lbs yesterday and looks fit and strong!

Very good post sc trojans - I second everything stated.  Because of the sheer amount of ingredients in kibble, cutting back on the volume will only skew the whole system. 

Lucian is fed an extremely high protein diet (raw), but is not in any way a chubby puppy.  He is lean with good muscle mass already showing through.  Most of the BP raw feeders I know have had very few (if any) ortho issues in their dogs, and that includes seeing a lack of pano.  This is the first puppy I have raised on raw and I am seeing a huge difference in his overall health. 

Saint Bernard Pictures / Re: An Update on Mia (now named Rogue)
« on: May 30, 2007, 10:38:02 pm »
Look how big she's gotten!
It's great to get an update and to hear she's been placed in a great home.  I know it was a hard decision to have to make.

Rare Breed Mastiff Discussions / 15 week Lucian Photo Update!
« on: May 30, 2007, 09:51:33 pm »
I know this isn't the mass photo update I promised, but I've been so busy these past weeks and haven't gotten around to uploading everything  :-\  Here are a few to tide you over, taken in the past few days (so you don't forget how the minimonster looks).  We have another vet trip tomorrow for vac's and a weigh-in!

Doberman Discussions / Re: Meet 7 week old male- Spartan Leonidas
« on: May 27, 2007, 12:47:43 pm »
I am not a fan of cropping as a whole, and being that your boy is so obviously oversized, I wouldn't think you're thinking about the show ring for him, so wouldn't it be a moot point to put him through it?  Just like MaryAndDobe's said - 12 weeks is EXTREMELY late for a crop - 7-8 weeks is the norm with 9 or 10 being the absolute latest I've ever seen a vet want to do a crop (and most of the vets I've worked with wouldn't crop).

Well the AKC breed standard (they are FS (Foundation Stock)just states that males should be over 110 lbs.  I have seen a range between 110 and 160 or so in the males I've seen(Eli was about 135).  Lucian is going to be on the larger end of things, we're guessing...but it's all a toss up at this point!  We don't care as long as he's healthy and happy!

We're still settling in from our big roadtrip, but Lucian had his moment on the scale today!  He turns 14 weeks today (5/26) and is weighing in at.... 41.9 lbs  :o  Where did my 11 lb mini monster go? 

I promise a huge picture vomit soon ;)

What a motley (and adorable) crew you have there!

Food Discussion & Information / Important Info re: safety of Iams
« on: May 24, 2007, 07:16:17 am »

Not like we didn't know it was a yucky food already....

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