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Shell,
We clearly share the same opinions on these dogs. My response to you was (albeit) confrontationa l because I felt as if you were assuming that we just defend the breed and not condemn the idiots that own them and create the monster.

We are. All of us. Every day. I appreciate the story and I could share mine, too. We all come (like Julie said) from different backgrounds. I actually live in a ghettoish kinda area. There are TONS of pitties around here and clearly tons of idiots. I'm always trying to teach someone SOMETHING about responsible dog ownership.

I hope that you can stick around and learn about us, too. We're a group of people with enormous hearts and teacher's souls. We teach, learn, love and share daily. You'll see.  ;D


I am the same I am always trying to educate someone about pitbulls. It is my goal in life. I would like to educate about other breeds as well but I haven't had or researched them like I have APBTs. :)

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I imagine the difference is that a lot of us relate these to dog problems, rather than breed problems.  I have mostly mutts.  If one of my mutts was to bite my nephew unprovoked, I wouldn't banish all the mutts from my house, or say they're all bad.  If Kiden bit my nephew, I wouldn't relate it to a Dane issue ... I would say it was an issue with HER, and her alone.  Kwellen is only 30lbs.  She is a doll, but one day she may bite someone.  Who knows?  The only way to REALLY avoid the possibility of a bite in your household is to not have pets.  Period. 

On a side note ... my mom did see my cat bite me seemingly out of nowhere.  I was on antibiotics at the time for a sinus infection, so she cleaned my hand like she would for any injury, and sent me to bed.  By the next morning, it was swollen beyond belief.  She took me to the hospital and we had three specialists (including a plastic surgeon) on call in case my arm needed amputated.  It was incredibly scary, but I was fine.  The cat was fine ... he never once bit anyone again, and anyone in my family will assure you that he was the best cat we've ever had.  I know, I know, its a CAT.  No big harm, right?  Well, it is when you almost lose your arm.  The whole point is, it wasn't his fault.  I don't hate cats.  My mom doesn't hate cats.  We didn't rehome him or put him down.  And I think my mom is an EXCELLENT mother for the way she handled the situation.




I completely agree with this! When I was about 7 we had a chow/husky mix. After being gone all weekend I came in the house and ran u to him. I dropped down rigth in front of him and he jumped on me and gave me 6 stitches in my head. Though this happened we didn't give him away or put him down. We kept him and he never did anything again. He was a great dog. He just reacted. My mother also has a chow today who is 11 yrs. Now even though I watch him around my 3 yr old simply because my son is rough and the dog is old and grumpy but he is also a great dog. When you blame a whole breed because of a bite you are basically acting the same as the people who hate the breed. It may not seem the same but really it is. It is your choice and right not to have that same breed if it attacks your child. but that doesn't mean the whole breed is bad or unpredictable. All breeds can be unpredictable!

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One of THE best websites EVER on pitbulls etc.  Education for those who know nothing about the dogs or for those who claim to know everything will learn a whole lot more... http://www.pbrc.net/breedinfo.html

I spent hours there.  Excellent site.

I am glad you Put up that site. It is very good, but there are many more sites available and all have great information. If anyone wants to learn about apbts I suggest searching though google and reading many different websites. Just stay away from Biased sites. Not only may they really dislike pits and feed you racist info, but they may love pitbulls and lead you away from facts. These dogs are wonderful companions for THE RESPONSIBLE OWNER ONLY!!! Well all have a wonderful week!!  ;D ;D ;D

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mama23+pyrs2, I think we have been trying to answer your questions.  You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but this is a pretty hot button issue, so you are also going to hear some opinions that clash with yours.  I think this has been a very civilized discussion, and we encourage that on the forum.


If it sounded as I was calling you ignorant I want to apoligize. My goal is to educate people on the breed that I adore. I started this forum never thinking it would end up like this but I am glad it did, because if I feel I may have shown one person the other side of the story then i feel I helped make a difference. pbs can not speak for themselves so I have reserched and researched and still continue to so that I may speak for them by educating people about this breed. In reality this BSL is All dog owners against a lazy government. The more EVERYONE fights it the less likely your breed will be next.

I don't mind opinions that clash with mine, that is what this world is about. I accept them. I don't see my opinion anywhere near accepted but being bashed and told I am ignorant and prejudice. It's easy to sit on the other side of the fence when people agree with you, very easy.

If an effort was being made to educate me rather than criticize me, I do appreciate the effort. Maybe I missed it, I'm working with pg brain over here.

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This is just purely an honest question. Do you truly think there are just as many say, Golden Retriever attacks as there are Pitbull attacks and the media just never finds out or hides it from the public? Or do they just happen to be Pitbulls a lot of the time and people's fears of them grow worse thereby continuing to tarnish their reputation?




No there probably aren't as many golden retriever attacks as pitbulls. But you have to look at why, people that fight dogs and trsain them to be aggressive don't want goldens. They use dogs like pbs shepards and rotts. So there are more of them out there that were made to be mean. Now if Goldens were trained to fight and be aggressive like pbs then yes I believe there would be as many and possibly more than pbs. now from statistics there are more bites by shepards than pbs. And its not they are hiding other bites just that when the public hears Pitbull attack they go EEEKE!!! But they just shrug it off if its another breed. So there is the reason they don't worry about other attacks. The media just wants people to watch at anyone or things expense and they are going to give the public what they want. Also did you know pbs are in the top four on the temperment tests. Above breeds like cockers and others.

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Very true and hopefully one that was dangerous would give some kind of warning sign before you got close enough to pet it, but I don't know.  When hubby was walking Yukon the other night a little girl ran up to him and thew her arms around him hugging him, her parents apparently looked quite concerned but quickly realized he was harmless and just enjoying the love. :)

The only Pitbull I've seen in years was at the SPCA last time I took the pups in for their shots. It was a female and the lady said she was just a baby but she didn't resemble one that was too young. She wasn't large by any means but she was WIRED, like her front feet never touched the ground that's how crazy she was and choking herself the entire time. The old man with her kept hitting her with his cane telling her to behave and settle down. The lady that had ahold of the leash would not let her get anywhere near another dog or person. She said about a thousand times that she just wanted to play and doesn't realize her size and would 'hurt our puppies'. Meanwhile Yukon was much larger than her. I had to wonder if she just didn't trust the dog, just not sure...it was kinda strange.

Then I go home and read up on them a little and how they tend to be animal agressive when they aren't raised properly and will go for the throat of a dog...that is terrifying! Like how would the other dog even stand a chance? They are all jaws. :-\




They do tend to be animal aggressive if not socialized. But if this was a puppy then it is very unlikely to have aggression yet. PBs are very energetic dogs. But just because they are very excitable does not mean they are trying to attack. If the owner of this dog does not trust it then they do not need to have it because they should know that puppies are not aggressive and you still have time to socialize it. PBs are the best at what you make them. Some stupid mean people teach them to be aggressive and they are the best. ANd then responsible pb owners socialize them and teach to be good loving dogs and then they are the best at that. Also from the sound of it the guy who was hittingher does not know how to train or control a dog. Yelling does no good, it must be a quick stern noise llike I use EH! Something to get their attention. Anyways, its really hard for me to talk about this over the enternet because I have so much I could say. I hope this helps you to see though.  :)

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there are like 20 breeds that are mistaken for pitbulls all the time. not saying that they are never pittys. ive even read how people have calle dthe news station and asked what kind of dog it was and they said they didn't know, but they said on the news a pit. i mean think about it the media puts out what people want to hear so they can get ratings. nobody cares about a labrador who bites but you hear pit and everyones like OMG!!

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I bet my pitty and your bully would have a blast together. :)

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Everybody is entitled to liking one breed more than another. us pit and other bully breed owners are so tired of people crossing the street because it saddens us to see our dogs face lighten up with joy thinking they are going to get attention and the people hurriedly walk away as if our dogs have leprocy. of course the whole problem started because of irresponsible owners and cruel people but really its just ignorance by those people who cross the street. I just hope one day that we are able to open peoples eyes. im not mad at you at all, just saddened. Please fight the good fight it could be your breed next! Fight BSL!

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What a beauty!!!

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no dog is good for everyone, but all we are saying is please dont be prejudice to a certain breed from hear say.

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AMEN!!! ;D

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AMEN!!!

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you should really research the breed. the media has wont put up anything good concerning a pitbull. there are so many stories where they are search and rescue, or they saved their families and even other people and pets from death. the number one drug sniffing dog in america is a pit. do you know the media has even told people who their pit saved their lives that they wouldnt publish the story saying it was a pit? tell me how is it they can be soo prejudice. please im not trying to say all pits are safe but at least educate yourself before making your decisions against them!!  :)

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THANK YOU!!!!! you are soo right and it makes me soo happy when i hear people talking some sense!! ;D who knows next year it may be pointers or huskies, ??? then will those breed lovers realize??? :-\ keep fightimg the good fight!!! Say no to bsl... i love apbts! ::)

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