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The groomers associated with our kennel do a process called a "shedicure" that really works to get all that undercoat out.  They do a thorough bath, then a high-velocity dry, and then use a series of brushes, one of which looks like a fine-toothed rake that really pulls all the hair out.  Then they finish with a thing that looks like a pumice stone.  Takes several hours and costs about $75 for a big dog, but definitely reduces the shedding and smell to a minumum for several months.

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I hate people who judge breeds at a glance, too- but in BOTH directions.  Like one member said about her Aussie, people ASSUME the dog is friendly by its looks, and that's just as stupid as assuming a dog is unfriendly by its breed or looks.
I also have a HUGE problem with newbies who know nothing about dogs, and don't do their homework.  Some dogs were bred to be more aggressive/protective than other breeds.  Individuals in those breeds may need a firmer hand or different training than a breed that was bred for a different purpose. I'm not saying that all dogs don't need training, I'm saying that some breeds are not suitable for someone who does not have the experience or force of personality to train them properly.  I used to work for animal control, and I saw lots of bites from dogs whose bewildered owner said "but I didn't TEACH him to be mean, I loved him and gave him everything he needed"-- never realizing that the dog needed discipline and structure. "

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General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Re: catahoula leopard dog ??
« on: September 21, 2005, 09:02:50 pm »
TY. Im in Northern Ontario and have never heard of this breed. When I looked up pictures on line I was overwhelmed by the resemblance. We were told Sadie was pure breed Great Dane but to our surprise she turned out to be too short, too stocky and not slobbery enough. LOL Everyone said she was mixed with Black Lab. It seems much more interesting to think she may be part Catahoula.Sadi e was bought in North Carolina so Im guessing the mix could be correct.
Cuttles

I LOVE Catahoulas, but they vary a lot depending on breeders. Some are smaller like Australian cattle dogs, some are taller and lankier and look sort of like field style Labs.  My asst. manager at work has a Catahoula/Border Collie mix she's a 50lb dog with a short coat, pointy face and merle and white markings.

My Earnest is Lab and Great Dane, I'm sure because I saw both his parents.  He's Dane build, tall and lanky, maybe a little stockier, but with a very Lab face.  I got really interested in this mix because of him, most of the ones I encountered the Lab side didn't reduce the size much.
When he was a pup our vet said she would have sworn he was pure Catahoula, I'm sorry I don't have puppy pics (didn't have a camera).

He's the merle dog in my avatar, here's a black and white that really shows his build, he's about a year in this pic, so he's not quite mature, he's filled out a little and gotten somewhat taller.

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http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=4816058&adTarget=&SessionID=43260c67275204e3-app3&display=&preview=1&row=0&tmpl=&stat=

This dog is really, really special. He's staying temporarily at the kennel where I work, I walk him everyday.  He's well mannered, and really smart.  No good with cats, which is why his foster mom is boarding him with us. There's some confusion as to whether or not he's dog aggressive, as far as we can tell he's not, unless the other dog challenges him first, and then Cody says "well bring it on!".  At the foster mom's he was with 5 other "bully-type" dogs and did fine, it was the cats, not the other dogs, that were a problem.

So far most of the people who are interested in him are newbies, they love the way he smiles and wags all over, but the rescue would really rather place him in an experienced dog home where he can get the love and understanding a big, strong guy needs to stay out of trouble.

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Anything Non-Dog Related / Re: Potential BPO T-shirt Slogans
« on: September 08, 2005, 08:43:13 pm »
What about the BPO logo with a simple "BIGGER IS BETTER"

Or "No, it's a dog, is that a rat?"

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I feel awful for the people there, I used to work at a big company that has several offices there and wonder what happened to people I used to talk to on the phone, like Clyde who had such a great sense of humor, and Charles, who was so proud of his grandkids.  I lost a boy I grew up with in 911, he was a firefighter who went in when everyone else was coming out.  I helped in the hurricane Andrew cleanup, and agonized over my mom and brother sticking out last year's hurricanes in Florida by camping in his walk-in closet (Mom's 85, bro is 67).  I hate that we're at war for what is apparently the wrong reasons.  The state of the world has me very worried right now. I don't know how much more I can take.
On a personal level, they keep bringing people to my part of the world.  That's great, I'm glad we can help. But I have a job making very little money, and the price of gas is impacting business so that soon I will have to find another job to feed my kids, and compete with people who lost everything, and will get preference because of the tragedy (not saying they shouldn't- just saying it is adding to my worries). My skin kid has a mental illness and is very unstable right now, I get caught up in my own stuff and then feel guilty that I'm not doing more for all the suffering.....

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General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Fire Drill!
« on: September 02, 2005, 05:56:02 pm »
Our smoke alarm in the hall goes off if you take a shower and forget to close the bathroom door afterward- so the steam doesn't come out of the bathroom.  Well, the first time it happened Earnest got excited and kept running to me so I yelled "fire drill" and sent him to the back door.  He caught on right away, now I let the alarm go off on purpose once a week or so, and at the first beep he's down by the back door.
He also goes if I yell "fire drill" even if the alarm's not going off.
Phyfe stays in the basement bedroom with my son, he stands at the door at the top of the steps (which is right next to where Earnest is) and barks. 
I figure ALL our kids, fur and skin, should know what to do just in case.

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Phyfe is the kind of dog that can "turn off".  If I say lay down and be quiet then all the commotion in  the vet's office ceases to exist.  He just finds a big enough corner to flop in and tunes it all out.  If a little dog gets in his face however, he usually puts his big face down next to them and lets them see down his throat as he gives them a WOOF! that blows their fur back.  Most little ones take off for Mommy's lap and don't come back.

Earnest, on the other hand, needs constant attention.  He'll sit and behave, but only if you stay right on top of him, and he loves people so much it's a real struggle when strangers want to wind him up. 
I constantly have to INSIST strangers stop talking to him in the stupid puppy voice because if they do it too long he's going to start wagging all over and lose his mind.  He's okay with a little bit of it, but if someone gushes over him he just melts.  Earnest is 150lbs and solid muscle- when he when he does the hula it's pretty destructive.
 
I'd much rather have a scaredy cat that keeps their distance, even if they have a snotty attitude.  One of my mom's neighbors told her one time that "dogs shouldn't be allowed to be that big", and she was going to complain about my two staying at Granma's house.  You should have seen her face when I came home from work-- in the Animal Control truck.


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General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Re: Prong collars
« on: September 02, 2005, 09:30:17 am »
I have another question. If the prong collar doesn't hurt a dog, then what is the theory behind its effectiveness? This is not an attack on anyone, I would like to think that I can post on this board without negativity, I think we can all help educate each other here. I don't think it's necessary for anyone to call someone else's favorite training collar a piece of "crap", so I am not going to do that. But since the prong collar seems to be the preferred training aid for a lot of people, I would like to hear from you guys why you think it is so effective without being painful to the dog. How does that work out? Why does it stop a huge dog from pulling you?

The only corrective-training-aid-whatever type collar I have used with a dog of my own was a choke chain over ten years ago when I took my husky to obedience school; it was the required collar for the class. For the dogs I have now I use my voice and a flat buckle collar, and I can walk two at a time and not get pulled down the street. I guess I am lucky in that I haven't had to use any extra training devices.

I know that none of us would ever put our beloved dogs in a situation that we thought would be damaging. We love our dogs. I am asking questions about the prong collar because it makes me personally feel uncomfortable. I have had someone do a demonstration for me with my sister's dog Winona who was a very strong puller. It stopped her from pulling, and I from what I saw it was because she was scared to death. But I don't think any of you guys would use it if you thought it was hurting your dogs. So I am just wondering how/why it works.




This is the best article I've seen explaining how and why a prong collar works, both physically and psychologicall y:
http://www.flyingdogpress.com/prong.html

She says this, in part:

The prong collar, or any other properly applied stimulus, allows the dog a clear choice. All collars work by creating unpleasantness for the dog---the collar tightens, which the dog dislikes, and therefore he is motivated to act in such a fashion that the collar does not tighten. Depending on the dog, unpleasantness (the collar tightening) sufficient to motivate him may be nothing more than the pressure of a flat buckle collar. Just as some people react dramatically when they stub their toe, and others with just a whimper, dogs, too, display a wide range of tolerance to physical stimuli.

A useful analogy is that of a hearing aid. For a person with normal hearing, a softly spoken request is enough to elicit a response. Impaired hearing requires a louder tone, and some people cannot hear well at all without a hearing aid. To continue to speak to a person who is not wearing his hearing aid is a frustrating experience for both, and to become exasperated with that person for not responding would be the height of insensitivity to the needs of that individual

Read the whole article- and take a look at some of the others on her site.  I found her book to be a really interesting viewpoint on dog training.  She is very in tune with why dogs do things, and how to show them what you want.

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General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Re: Prong collars
« on: September 01, 2005, 05:54:29 pm »
beachfloat-
Please understand, I'm not arguing, I'm comparing different attitudes toward training among different dog communities. I hear what you are saying about negative reinforcement.
What about the idea that some breeds, like Labradors, are bred to be somewhat insensitive-"thick skinned" if you will.  They are not supposed to respond to things like saw grass and burrs, thickets and briars, or they wouldn't retrieve in rough terrain.  They don't interpret the pinches from a prong as "pain"- more likely the stimulus from the prong is even milder than when we try it on our own leg.  Individual dogs in breeds not bred this way can also be insensitive, just like individual people have higher/lower tolerances to different stimuli. ( I have a really high pain tolerance, but a very low tolerance to loud noises).
Not everyone has their dog from a puppy, would you use a prong on your theoretical Weimeraner?

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General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Prong collars
« on: August 31, 2005, 05:55:21 pm »
Ok, here's another one of my "compare the attitude" questions.
How many of you use a prong collar? Plastic or metal? How many think it's an awful device and wouldn't think of it?  If you use it, is it all the time, just for exciting places, or just for training and you'll use something else later? What about Gentle Leaders or Haltis, and if you use one because it's more "humane" does your dog get happy when they see it or do they try to get away? Will you always use it?
Anybody use any other "devices"?

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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Re: Ear cleaning
« on: August 29, 2005, 11:48:31 pm »
We call the gentian violet solution "purple power" a Lab friend turned me on to it.  You can substitute witch hazel for the alcohol, which is more soothing if the ears are already irritated.  I use those round cotton makeup things. I soak them in the ear stuff, then stick them down into the dog's ears and let him shake them out.  They stay in long enough for the medicine to ooze down into the ear, no fuss, no fighting, and you don't really need to physically get all that gunk out, once the underlying condition is taken care of it will clear up on its own.
Two or three days and everything is back to normal.
The reason it works is that the Boric Acid kills bacteria, and Gentian Violet is a powerful antifungal. Real often what happens is it starts out as one, and then a secondary infection develops as a result of the irritation and imbalance of the natural enviorment in the ears.  A lot of treatments only address one issue.

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Medical Conditions & Diseases / Re: Does Anyone Have an Allergic Dog??
« on: August 29, 2005, 11:35:42 pm »
Whenever anyone talks about a persistent skin condition I always like to tell them about Rachel.  Rachel was a huge black Great Dane I got as a puppy in Utah.  When she was 2 we moved to Florida.  As time went by Rachel developed a horrible skin condition. Her hair fell out, she had ugly sores that started out small and got large and infected.  The vet ruled out mange, and other infectious causes. The diagnosis was "flea allergy" and she was started on corticosteriod injections.
Nothing helped. I discontinued the treatments as she was not improving.
I was in the process of moving, and needed somewhere for Rachel to stay while my new house was getting ready, and asked a friend to keep her for me.  She said sure, but because Rach was so large, she'd have to spend a lot of time outside.  I thought, oh great, put a dog with flea allergy out in the sand- but I really had no choice, so I agreed.  Then we discussed heartworm prevention. Rachel was on Heartguard, my friend's dogs were on filarabits.  I told my friend to just switch Rachel to her dog's meds, and I'd chip in, to make things easy.
A month later Rachel was on the mend- her hair was growing back and the sores were healing.  Turned out it was Ivermectin (the ingredient in Heartguard) that was the problem.  The vet insisted it couldn't be, even after he saw the great improvement in her skin.
Since then I've suggested to quite a few people to change their heartworm or flea preventative when a skin condition did not improve, and enough people found that to be the problem that it's worth investigation.  A lot of vets don't realize that in some dogs these products can cause awful problems.

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I have the biggest Midwest crate, too- the metal tag on it says it's the Midwest 2000.  It was great when Earnest was housebroken, but not reliable about destruction. 
I got it at the Boulder Humane Society, they have a store that sells used training equipment.  $50!  Craigslist and Freecycle are also great places to find things like that, I got 2 6X6X6' outdoor kennels for free, and an 18X6X6' one really cheap, I put all the panels together in a big circle for a play yard for the boys.
Just a tip, for the big wire crates, I reinforced everywhere the panels came together with cable connecters, and put two big carabiners around the wire in the place where the tray slides out so it couldn't move.  Just a little extra safety.

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General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Re: Some people are so rude
« on: August 28, 2005, 09:00:33 pm »
Oh, the joys of Petsmart! People there are so weird sometimes.
I had a lady who told me what a shame it was that I didn't crop Earnest's ears- 1. he's not purebred, most people only get Dane because he's so big- he has a very Lab face, if you know Danes you can see he's not pure  2. I happen to like natural ears, and even if he was pure, he'd still have his ears. 
I have had more than one person argue with me when they ask what he is- I say 1/2 Lab, 1/2 Dane, and they say "NO, can't be, he's.... I KNOW WHAT HE IS, I SAW BOTH HIS PARENTS.  He can't be Dane because he's merle, he can't be lab because he's not black, he must have some chow because his merle spots continue onto his tongue...
I gave up. Now when some one asks I tell them he's a rare Lochbuie Lurcher imported from England, very expensive.  Cracks me up when the know-it-alls are so impressed.... "Oh, yes, very fine example of the breed"...... LOL!!!

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