Now I feel like a bad mommy

[brigid67]

My daughter and I are looking into getting a newf pup in about 6 mos.  So I have started to look for breeders..etc  I talked with one today who told me I should be ashamed for crate training..that she would be unable to help with a new pup..Now I feel guilty.  She is hardly in the crate just at night and that's it.  Its not like she is in there all the time.  At the most she will be crated for 3-5 hrs and 5 hrs is the max..probably will not happen just because of my familys schedule....  I mean do other people crate train?  Since we have started our accidents in the house have stopped.  I .love my dogs and would never do anything to intentionally hurt them or neglect them in anyway.

[Kermit]

That breeder is nutso if she thinks crating a dog is bad. Don't feel guilty at all!!!! I think crate training is the best thing since sliced bread! It keeps my dogs out of trouble when I am not there with them, which prevents bad feelings and punishment, not to mention it keeps them safe from harm when you can't supervise them!!! I think there are MANY people on this board who use crates, and will back them up wholeheartedly . A crate could hypothetically be abused, or a dog could be crated too much, but it sounds to me like you are doing everything right and being a very responsible dog caretaker.

[nickerbokker]

dude, the lady that sold me angus is the same way.  she's all, MY DOGS WERE NEVER IN A CRATE AND THEY ARE JUST FINE....I DONT KNOW IF I SHOULD SELL YOU A PUPPY IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE HIM IN A CRATE ALL DAY LONG...THEN BLAMED HIS HD ON THAT FACT LOL.  i hate her.

i think crate training is GREAT!  cody LOVES his crate.  when he gets tired (its not put together since i moved here..but when it WAS)...and he would get tired, that is where he would go to eat!  it is his own personal den!  he loves it in there.  i guess he feels safe in there, that is what they say at least.  and what happens if one day you ABSOLUTELY have to kennel him.....how would you feel leaving a puppy in a kennel that had never been in that situation before? 


i dunno.  i think crates (beds lol) are wonderful!  both my boys loved them, actually all my dogs as far back as i can remember have loved them...and yes, i think potty training is better that way also.  JMO of course.

dont feel like a bad mom!  you are a wonderful mom!  and you dont want one of her dumb puppies anyway!

[Kiahpyr]

You're not a bad mommy. Don't let that mean ol' breeder scare you.

At first I wasn't going to crate train either. The whole house breaking thing changed my mind. I got a crate and it was nice. I didn't have to worry about messes. However, Kiah got out of her crate a few times. The last time she got out she hurt herself. Nothing serious. Althought the crate did go bye bye. Luckly for me she doesn't chew on anything. She's been out of her crate for two weeks. I stay at home, so the longest she's alone is four-five hours. My vet recommended crate training and most of my friends who have dogs did too. Since their dogs grew out of the puppy stage, they don't use the crates anymore either.

Btw....Willow is so cute!

[brigid67]

Well thank you all...I crated my female pom amd it was good.  The breeder said it was bad for large breed dogs and said the same thing about causing HD.... She was like I am very particular about who gets my pups and I don't think you are good enough.  I was like mortified that she thought I was abusing my baby...I hate her too and I don't even know her..

[greek4]

This is my view...
crates are the best.
If my dogs were not in a crate during the day, I would have dumped them in the woods by now (not really but it would be tempting).

Rocco has just now at 3 become trustworthy enough to have free roam of the house at night, and be free in a room during the day.  Maia is a shredder so she may never be free.

Imagine, Rocco and Maia both free during the day.  I would have shredded furniture, a couple sick dogs, and no patience.  I don't have the luxury of staying home all day, I have to work because it is just me to support them.  It doesn't hurt the dogs to be confined and out of trouble when they would be spending 90%of their time laying around anyway.  In a crate, you avoid the 10% of time they would spend possibly harming themselves in the process of destroying your house.

I'm sure their are some dogs out there that never used a crate and never will use or need one.  I am not part of that dog owner population.  So, I say, scr*w her, you have to do what fits in your life to be happy with your dog. 

As for crating causing joint or bone issues, that is crap, don't you think the vet would be the one to tell you that.

You are a great Mom, you have teenagers right?  You are still alive and not in an institution, take pride in that.

[Kermit]

Here's a thought- I bet bad breeders LOVE to have something to blame for hip displaysia! It takes the responsibility off them! They can just say the crate caused it instead of BAD BREEDING...

[Carolyn]

I would really like to know how this woman trains her puppies, oh wait she probably doesn't.
Apache has had free run of the house since he was about 7 months old, he got too big for his crate & my little man is just soo good. Kiya came to me crate trained at 14 wks. My 2 girls have accidents, Chazzy poops & Kiya pees. So I have been confining the girls next to my side of the bed at night. I have the exercise pen & when the panels are open you can make a big crate. I don't believe a puppy/dog should be left in a crate all day & night but there are times when its really for thier own good. Before Apache I never used a crate, his breeder recommended it. I found an article "10 reasons why you should crate train" the best was if the dog has to stay at the vets, the crate/kennel wont be such a shock. My husband didn't want to crate, so the first night Apache came home I put him in the bathroom for the night, after an hour of crying I brought him into the bedroom & the next day Billy agreed to get a crate.
Carolyn

[brigid67]

This is the same breeder who has the article on her website about stairs causing hip dysplasia...wh ich was the 1st I had heard about that.  My vet is totally for crating..we talked about it the very 1st visit....This breeder doesn't crate and has 9 newfies at her home...seems like a lot....I know I am doing a good thing and it is too bad because you could get a more loving home for doggies then my home...oh well not the right breeder I guess... The right pup will come my way when it is time.  Thank you guys for being so syupportive..I just couldn't believe how rude she was....

[lins_saving_grace]

Crating is in the best interest of the dog in most cases.    I crate...or as we call in Bedtime.  They love their crates.

[brigid67]

I can't believe he doesn't fit the crate...if it is the same one I have its so huge!!!!

[brigid67]

yep I have the huge - you could house a small family - wire crate..  It is so big!!!