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Guess who we just bred.....
« on: April 07, 2008, 03:00:56 am »
My mother called me today- she and I co-own the show dogs, who live with my parents 90% of the time.

HOLLY aka CH. Pahlavi Hurray For Hollywood, JC was bred today to Am/Can BIS, Nat.SBIS, MSBIS, MBIS Can CH Polo’s In The Air Tonite Fch.

Originally, she was planning on breeding her to AM,INT,IT,SP,GBR.,BiH CH Rhadamanthe Sikandar D'Hezaradjah in france but she ended up just buying a male puppy out of his last litter in plans for holly's next breeding a few years down the line. He flew in two months ago and is doing fine.

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Holly- Dam







Aries- Sire (Photos copywrite Aries breeder/owner)









And pedigrees here:

Aries:
http://www.pawvillage.com/pedigree/dynprofile.asp?ID=3ES7T9E6VM

Holly:
http://pawvillage.com/pedigree/dynprofile.asp?ID=9XGT29X9FH




SOO excited! Aries is a grandson to Ch. Kabik's The Challenger, who was the Best In Show winner at the Westminster in '83. (The last hound to ever win it before the beagle this year, and only 1 of 2 afghans to ever win it) This will be a beautiful litter!
« Last Edit: April 07, 2008, 03:06:09 am by whiskeyandsake »


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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2008, 05:35:50 am »
Afghan genetics are so incredibly complicated. Theres thousands of color combinations/effects/masking agents, coupled with the fact that really, you dont have any idea what color your dog is until it is a mature adult about 6 or 7.

About the only thing that is 100% agreed on is if you breed brindle to brindle, you get 100% brindle, and self masked to self masked create double masked.

We are expecting out of this litter 50% brindle, 50% solid, with black, red, creme, blue, and black and tan as options, and a good 25% masked, unless there's a chinchilla effect hidden on holly's side since she has domino and grissle on both her maternal grandmother and great grandfather and paternal grandmother. I'd love to see a blue domino, but the chances are pretty slim ;) I'm not very good at the genetics part, although I am trying to read up more. We always say, color is the last thing on your mind when you breed, but its oh so fun to try to predict :D

here's a great afghan website for color genetics: http://www.farbgenetik.afghanen.de/Farben/ei_start.html
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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2008, 07:44:03 am »
Oh Wow! Both the mom and dad are beautiful! Can't wait to see your litter in 2 months!
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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2008, 08:01:00 am »
No, there's no fatal gene in afghans, but I know exactly what you mean- you can't breed two hairless cresteds together either because the puppies won't survive- homozygous HL genes are fatal.

the only thing I know of in afghans (remembering I am new) is the saying "Breeding two (insert other word for "poop") brindles together will muddy the waters" meaning all you will get is red (AKA s**t brindle) brindle after brindle after brindle for generations.


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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 10:51:07 am »
'Tard question of the day - do they always get pregnant from "you know" during thier heat? Like you just automatically assume that Holly is with pup cuz she was knockin' paws?
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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2008, 10:59:43 am »
Wow, both of these dogs are absolutely gorgeous!!!!
I love afghans. i'd love to have one - but darcy thinks i'd become lazy and not brush it. Sort of like Reba, how she hasnt had a good shave since January. LOL but its still cold here so she has to keep some warmth right ;)
All the best of luck with this litter, and i cant wait to see some puppy photos!
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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2008, 11:08:52 am »
So you just don't want to breed two brindles together?

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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2008, 01:37:24 pm »
'Tard question of the day - do they always get pregnant from "you know" during thier heat? Like you just automatically assume that Holly is with pup cuz she was knockin' paws?

She was bred artificially with chilled seamen after given progesterone shots to make sure she was at optimum hormones... then we'll know in about 30 days if it took. It should! If not, we do it again ;)
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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2008, 01:40:21 pm »
So you just don't want to breed two brindles together?

Nothing wrong with it- if you really really really like brindles :D I think its mostly a joke for people who like other patterns, because breeding two brindles together will produce only brindle the first generation and then 75% brindle for generations after


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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 02:08:46 pm »
Beautiful dogs! The Afghan is another breed I've never met up close and personal, but admired from afar. I spied one in town a year or so ago - had to drive around the block and in the process I lost it.  :-\ It must have been a "Tourist". He/she was lovely! :)

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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2008, 09:41:33 pm »
Congrats!  I hope it takes!

I love afghans and would love to have one if I could keep up with the brushing (which I probably couldn't).  But I love all the color combinations I had no idea there were so many until I researched them a bit a couple of years ago.

They are such a gorgeous breed.  There used to be some nasty ones we saw on our walks occasionally in Ca but they were tiny tiny much smaller than I thought they would be.  We have one boarding at work right now, a black female (with just a bit of a white chest) named Maxx.   They have her hair cut pretty short.  And she's about as big as I think they should be.

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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 09:46:54 pm »
Congrats on the impending puppyness.  Those are two gorgeous dogs.
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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 10:39:30 pm »
WOW! What a gorgeous dogs!!! Afghans are very popular in Russia and I've got be around quite a few of them...wonderf ul dogs! Yea, grooming takes time...lots of it :P
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Re: Guess who we just bred.....
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2008, 11:23:59 am »
Those are beautiful afghans.  The puppies will be gorgeous!
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