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What Newf mixes would you like to see?
TINKSMOM:
You know what is funny guys .. Tink is the same age as Harely in my avatar. What a difference in size. Boy my girl grew up fast!
TINKSMOM:
This was Tink's 8 week old photo at 25lbs the first day I brought her home, she has definately changed colors. She is 14 months now and around 120lbs. There is one by the gate where she is starting to metamorphasize . She looks like a silver back gorilla.
As for Harley, I do see the Saint and the newf, but she was the runt and did not receive adequate food her first 14 weeks, had parvo, and her mother was a saint mix less than one year old when she gave birth. She spent her entire first three months locked in a shed with her mom and 4 siblings, never let out, no light, etc. Her brothers were all about 15lbs larger than her too. She definately had some strikes against her but according to what I have read at 4 months and 45lbs, she is not that far off on the newf chart. My vet agrees with her age range. She had all her puppy teeth when I got her and almost has all her adult teeth now. I think she got off to a bad start but she'll get there. I think this pict (see below) definately looks saint.
vmimom2006:
I have seen way to many "doodle" mixes. People are still allergic and sometime those mixes make a very nasty disposition and guess where they end up!
ruffian:
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--- Quote from: LoganfromNewf on April 02, 2009, 05:03:06 am ---To be fair all the breeds were crossbread with other breads to become what they are today. I still believe in keeping pure breds if only because you know what your getting.
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An argument which really means nothing.
I have no problem with people who want to start a new breed (like the American Mastiff), recreate an old breed (like the Victorian Bulldog), or have an actual goal (like the Australian Labradoodle, which was created to give people with disabilities a helper dog that combined the well-known positives of a Lab with the allergy-friendly fur of a poodle).
I DO have a HUGE problem with people who just breed random mixes cause they think it would be cool (or because they’re too lazy/stupid to be trusted with an intact pet and can’t be bothered to police it). People like this make the worst backyard breeder look like the poster boy for breeder responsibility .
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Not all breeds were created from crossing other breeds, FYI, there are several ancient dog breed who have remained mostly unchanged from they way they evolved. And there is no real reason to create a new breed today that we do not have a breed for already, they are crossbred because people just want something different.
The lab poodle mix as a service dog was an experiment that failed MISERABLY. On average 1 out of 4 of the mixes would have the no-shedding coat of a poodle, of that maybe 1 of 4 would have what it takes to be a service dog. So maybe one dog out of 2 litters had what it took, thats an awful lot of castoffs.
There is a breeder of labramutts in Australia who proudly proclaims that she breeds over 500 a YEAR, not for service work, just as high prices mutts.
As for second gen cross breeds it would depend on if they used a lab or a poodle to sire the second gen, almost in which case you end up with a dog that is mostly poodle again, so why bother? If you cross a lab poodle mix to a lab poodle mix you usually end up with pups that look like the original 2 breeds. Same thing happens if you cross a pug beagle mix to a pug beagle mix.
Gage is the product of a not opps breeding I'm sure because when I got him at 7 months old there was another litter of them for sale around where he came from originally, he is a great dog but never in a million years would I have paid for a mutt, especially one from untested parents.
Like they say a fool and his money.
Morweena:
Ruby was bread for some purpose I can't quite figure out, a more stubborn dog?(both breeds are famously stubborn) a quieter malamuate? (neither breed bark much and bullmastiffs often have to be coaxed to make any noise) a longer lived bullmastiff?
I paid 400 bucks for her and she was worth every penny.
Maybe I just got lucky but she seems to have the best traits of both breeds with few of the drawbacks (high prey drive makes her harass my poor cats).
The "breeder" wasn't selling the pups as anything other than a pet, and the adds for her litter just said "loving intelligent puppies, very quiet". No claims on guarding or mushing skills.
Maybe they just had two well tempered dogs and thought "hmm they have great temperments lets mix them"
Better that than breeders that try and stretch the breed standard to create "giant malamutes" or a more wrinkley shar pei
Many of us just can't afford a purebred dog and while a backyard breeder is not the smartest place to go it is better than getting the pup of the moment at petstore.
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