Coonie, Pyrs arn't herding dogs that are livestock gaurd dogs...The only time they will "herd" is too push the livestock back into a corner if there is a threat...The senior pack members will confront & ward off the threat & the younger dogs will hold the livestock back...Ideally to gaurd livestock efficiantly, 4 dogs would be used, 2 to take on the predator (s) & 2 to keep the livestock back safely...Where Samson came from though there were only 2 adults that worked...Samso n's breeder has a sheep farm & also raises Border Collies which she used to herd.