I crated trained all my dogs a puppies, and during mealtimes, that is where they went. When the crates went away, their crate pads stayed in that spot, and they had so stay on the crate pad during meals. Now I can move their pads anywhere in the kitchen and that is where they go until the humans are done eating. Afterwards (like in any pack, the dominent eat first)they have their meal.
As for counter surfing, well I have a dane, and he will not stay off the counters. I have tried every trick in the book, and a few that are really harsh--like baited set mousetraps. We have had some battles!(Picture a 40 year old vertically challanged, horizontally gifted woman dragging a 130 LB Great Dane out from under the kitchen table by his tail, as he frantically tries to make a frozen 6 lb roast disappear that I had left out on the counter to thaw!) The only solution that I have found that actually works is not to leave anything out on the counters that is remotely tempting when I am not in there to supervise. The tail incident convince him that stealing when I was in the room is a no-win situation, LOL.
Stella