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Anything Non-Dog Related / I saw baby swans(long)
« on: June 15, 2007, 03:36:54 am »
There are a pair of Swans settle in the pond near my home since Early Spring(March?). The female swan has been sitting in their nest since Mid April. A fence with entrance in the water was installed to protect them. I almost walk my dog every day passing the pond anticipating to see baby swans, but saw none except the male swan protecting his wife and nest and the female swan sitting there patiently. Nothing changed until yesterday, the fence was fully enclosed. I went closer to take a look, the female swan was not sitting there anymore, but still saw no baby swan. Then this morning, I saw the 2 baby swan with their parents in small enclosed area of the pond! I'll post some pictures if anyone is interested.

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Introduce Yourself to the Forum / Re: A Late Intro
« on: June 14, 2007, 11:51:19 am »
Butter II @ 5 months

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Introduce Yourself to the Forum / Re: A Late Intro
« on: June 14, 2007, 11:49:07 am »
Some pictures of Butter II from 12 weeks to 4 months.

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Introduce Yourself to the Forum / Re: A Late Intro
« on: June 14, 2007, 06:12:34 am »
Thank you all for the warm welcome. For sure, I enjoy the BPO. I check BPO everyday for new posts.

As for pictures of butter II, I have posted some in the following post.
 http://www.bigpawsonly.com/index.php/topic,17707.0.html

I'll post more later on.

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Introduce Yourself to the Forum / A Late Intro
« on: June 14, 2007, 12:25:08 am »
Hello everyone, I am Edward, born in Dog year; immigrated from China to Toronto, Canada 6 years ago. Currently Owned by Butter II(goldendoodle) who is now a lovely 5 1/2 months boy. Before I got Butter II, we had our first dog, Butter I briefly for 2 months, a very sensitive and strong 1 year old Lab mix.  He is now rehomed and lives happily with his new family... I may talk about Butter I's story in another some day.

I got to know BPO while researching dog food a month ago, among the first posts I read was:
* Holly's Dog Food Dissertation
http://www.bigpawsonly.com/index.php/topic,9742.0.html
* Whole Dog Journal up-dated dry dog food ratings
http://www.bigpawsonly.com/index.php/topic,7435.0.html

From reading these posts, I began to know which food is pure garbage(Purina ...), which is a little better than garbage: Iams..., which is good food: Innova, Orijen, Canidae,....
There are also some other great posts. Through all these posts, it opened a whole new world for me. Thank you all.

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I remember my breeder telling me not to go over 23% protein for my dogs and that excessive protein would give them excessive energy which at least for my breed, isn't the type of dog they are. I dunno.

There are 3 sources that can convert to calories(energy): protein(excessive), fat, and carbohydrate. The latter one is the easiest one to convert to calories(in the form of glucose). High protein(>40%) food contains less carbohydrate(<20%), and low protein(~24%) food contain much more carbohydrate(>40%).

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Behavior, Housebreaking, Obedience / Re: behavior problems.
« on: June 13, 2007, 01:03:56 am »
There is a very educational article about this from Suzanne Clothier:
http://www.flyingdogpress.com/sayhi.html.
I have a very playful puppy myself, who would jump at any dog going near him and licking in their face. Some of them would bark, or showing their teeth, others just ignore him. I just realized after reading the article that my puppy's rudeness is causing this "aggressive" behavior...

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An interesting article.
"high-carbohydrate diet the dog had been eating might be producing hyper-reactivity. "
http://www.webtrail.com/petbehavior/april99.html

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A interesting discussion about High Protein dog food-Orijin
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/86740.html

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Just analyzed the Nutritional Facts about the low protein food:Innova Large puppy. It listed the follow main components:
Moisture     10.00  %
Protein    24.00  %
Fat       12.00  %
Linoleic Acid    2.5  %
Fiber            4.00  %
Ash            4.75  %
Other      <5.0%

It adds up to 60%! What is missing? Carbohydrates! So carb is around 40%.

The Innova EVO:
Moisture     7.50  %
Protein    43.16  %
Fat       22.22  %
Linoleic Acid    4.20  %
Carbohydrates    14.46  %
Fiber       1.52  %
Ash       11.14  %
Calcium    3.03  %

It adds up to 107%! There is still other components left! This is better than the Innova low protein food, since it lists the percentage of Carbohydrates, but somehow it mess the total value.

The Orijen Large puppy:
Protein     42.0% (min.)
Carbohydrate    18.0% (max.)
Fat    16.0% (min.)
Moisture    10.0% (max.)
Fiber    2.0% (max.)
Calcium    1.4% (min.)
Phosphorus    1.1% (min.)
Omega-6    2.5% (min.)
Omega-3    1.0% (min.)

Adds up to 94%. This is much better in reporting it's Nutritional value than the first 2.

I checked other low protein dry dog food, up to now there is no one reporting the percentage of Carbohydrate in their product. Since high protein = low cab, low protein = high carb. The question I now may ask is high protein or high carb, which is better?

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Thanks so much for your great answers.
My puppy butter II(Golden doodle, golden + standard poodle) is currently feeding Iams large puppy which a local pet store owner sneered at. He is OK with this food: when we first got him from a rescuer @ 12 weeks old, he was about 9 pound only, and very weak. For the first 2 week, we were feeding them the garbage food purina puppy, his poop runny all the time, we ask ed the rescuer, she suggested Iams, after a week, his poop became much better, and began to gain weight, at 19 weeks(2 weeks ago), he was around 29 pounds. But after I joined BPO forum, thanks to your guys, I began to understand more about pet food, and closely monitered butter's poop, it's very large, a little bit sandy and not so solid if I feed him more. So I am thinking of switch to a better food: Innova large puppy, Innova EVO, or the canadian Orijen. Which one should feed him? As I read your post, I am leaning toward Innova large puppy. What other suggestion? Thanks

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A lot people are saying high protein is bad for large breed puppies. Why is that? It makes grow them too fast? Any evidence? Is it OK to just feed less and keep the same level of daily protein intake? For example, both Innova EVO and Orijen have about 42% protein, and it's recommended to feed 24% protein dry food to puppies, can I feed ~60% of high protein food? Please share your experience.

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The ban or restriction is really ridiculous. But I checked the RDOWS website, it does not have any list of dogs that were banned or restricted, just a PDF listing all the states and local legislation that has the dog ban or not. How is the list created? Another thing is there is no description if the paritular dog breed is banned or restricted.

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