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Newfoundland Discussions / Re: Jack comes home tomorrow!
« on: October 23, 2008, 07:57:52 am »
OMG he is SOOOOOOO cute!   Congratulation s, and I love the name you have chosen. My only piece of advice is to take LOTS of pictures, if you are thinking "oh wow, we've taken a lot of pictures, maybe thats enough for today."  DON'T!  They grow SO FAST, you can not have too many puppy/fluffy/cuddly pictures.  With Tucker, it seemed he grew overnight, one night we put him to bed, a cuddly 10 lb puppy, barely a foot tall sitting, and then next morning we woke up to a 70lb (and growing!) 4 foot tall dog!  And he's only 7 months old!
Have fun, forget about sleep for a while (but its so worth it!) and enjoy him.

And take lots of pictures!!

77 temperature.  That makes sense as to why Tucker wouldn't touch it right away.  Tonight we will "warm" the food, or take it out of the fridge to warm up for a bit before serving.

We gave Tucker his first taste of raw last night for dinner- kept it pretty bland, just whole chicken patties from Urban Carnivore.  We expected Tucker to look in his dish and be "OMG!  CHICKEN!! :o :o"  and just devour it right up, but he didn't.  He sniffed, looked at us like we were crazy, and walked away.

He went back a few minutes to sniff again, then sniff again, then he took a lick, and another lick, and another lick, then a small bite, then another bite, then he started eating.  He ate the whole thing, from the first sniff to the last bite being eaten it was probably about two hours in time, maybe two and a half.

Which leads me to my next question:  how long can the thawed food, sitting in the dish, stay out and still be ok for him to eat?

My hubby said as long as the food was COLD in the dish, it was ok.  If it had started to go to room temperature/feel warmish then he would've chucked it, but of course- what does he know?  So I'm asking you guys!

Thanks in advance, and have a good day everyone!

Another question has popped into my head as I sit here avoiding work...LOL...

A friend of mine just sent me an email outlining how she got her dog started on raw, and that she too, started out buying premade stuff but quickly graduated to making her own.

I need some clarification:  when serving chicken backs or other parts of chicken etc...that have bone intact, are you just letting the dog crunch everything up on his own, or are you chopping/food processing the food before serving to the dog?

I have this picture in my head of a dog staring down at his bowl that's been loaded up with chicken backs, thighs, some organ meat, a drumstick or wing....everyt hing whole, raw and just sitting there!

Do you chop up or run through the food processor first?

Thanks so much for everyone's answers- and your patience with me!

I live in Calgary too   ;D I get my raw from tailblaizers I just buy it by the case load as it is chaper. I go with Mountain Dog food (as that is what my holistic vet in Edmonton recommended) and Urban Carnivore as well when I can't get the type of meat I am looking form from Mountain Dog Food. I prefer that the Mountain Dog food is not in the patty form and the varity they have, organ meats chicken backs etc.

When I switched Harley to raw I just made the switch; no weaning from they Evo she was eating and she was fine, no soft stool, upset stomach etc.

May I ask what the average price per case is of the Urban Carnivore and MDF?  We have been impressed by Tail Blazers, we bought a box of pure whole chicken patties from Urban Carnivore, and also bought Top Hand turkey patties.  Tucker will be having his first taste of raw tonight!

Mountain Dog Food is another brand we were interested in, but we liked the wide variety of different types of meat that Urban Carnivore we decided to try them first.

I get my raw from the grocery store!  I feed a variety of meats and include fish and organ meat at least once a week.  I buy on sale and keep the freezer stocked to keep expenses down.  I also keep kibble down so the dog in effect eats about 1/2 raw and 1/2 kibble.  Fruits and veges are fed as treats and when I cook a 'doggy stew'- its loaded with veges and fruits- dogs love cooked apples and pears.

Question:  if you are cooking the fruits and veggies, are you not defeating the purpose of doing the raw thing?  I read somewhere in my mass-efforts in research that fruits/veggies should be pureed into a paste form almost, because its easier for doggies to digest than eating chunks of carrots, apples, beans etc...but does that mean that cooking them first is better?  Seems to me raw and run through a food processor would make more sense- but I am VERY new to the concept of raw, so really, what do I know, LOL!

I don't know how many of you all on here are Canadian, or are living in/around Calgary such as myself, but...if you are...where do you get your raw food from? 

I've been doing lots of research on the subject, and want to know which raw food suppliers are considered to be at the top of the list of the best, which would be mediocre and which should be best left alone.  I am surprised at the number of raw food producers I've come across:

-Mountain Dog Food
-Nature's Premium
-Red Dog/Blue Cat
-Urban Carnivore
-Pets Go Raw
-Farm Fresh
-Glengary Bison
-Fresh Start
-Nature's Variety
-Pleased Pets
-Top Hand

to name a few that are supplied in my local Tail Blazers pet store.  How do you choose which one is right?  And then, how do you choose which varieties to go with, or is it best to still keep it different and sometimes feed raw beef/veggie/fruit or chicken/veggie or bison/veggie/fruit or simply whole turkey etc....the possibilities are mindboggling.

The more research I do, the more I learn and am thinking that the visible results from dogs on raw diets speaks for itself- especially where BMDs are concerned. 

Also was wondering if anyone out there is feeding a combo of kibble (high quality, like Orijens) and raw food, meaning kibble being fed 4 times a week, but raw being fed 3 times a week, or something like that?

And one last question:  should we decide to take the leap and make the switch to raw food for Tucker, what is the best way to wean him from his Orijens to the raw?

Thanks in advance for all the info- I always know I will get great advice and feedback from any posts! Hope you are all having a wonderful weekend.

Bernese Mountain Dog Discussions / Re: Allopecia (sp?) on my 5 month BMD
« on: October 17, 2008, 02:22:07 am »
I thought I had posted this already, but I don't see it here so I must be mistaken...

The baldy patches totally cleared up on their own.  We never did figure out what caused it.  Perhaps a combination of transitioning from yucky food to good, superior food?  Who knows.  Tucker's coat is growing in thick and healthy now (and turning wavy, much to my delight!) and the patches that were there are completely gone now.


Just one of MANY horrible ideas I see on that show.  Sad, since I understand that our human preferences are different and we dont want to be out in bitter weather, but Tucker is sitting there patiently waiting for that winter to come, and you want to keep him in?  Don't tell Tucker!

Going out every day for a BMD is more about mental and emotional stimulation - smelling things, finding other dogs or critters to engage, playing in snow etc.  Nothing on a treadmill will replace what your BMD needs.  Even Cesar is using it for solely those high energy dogs or overweight who need to burn calories.  That kind of repetitive motion without any stimulation or enjoyment is not beneficial or a sound replacement for getting outdoors.

I did not say we would replace Tucker's daily walks with the treadmill. Obviously the outdoor walking/stimulation/sniffing/meeting new people/dogs, experiencing everything- including the weather- is more beneficial for Tucker; I was curious about the treadmill thing for those few nights that will come up when its -40 or -50 with the windchill, when its physically unsafe to be outdoors for more than a few minutes due to threat of frostbite, when your front steps/sidewalk and the streets are all slick with ice AND buried in two to four feet of snow making it physically dangerous to both Tucker and ourselves to be outside- would a few minutes on a treadmill here and there throughout the day (along with the normal playing/tug/puzzle/cat chasing/hide and seek games we play with Tucker) be ok?

Assuming of course we could get him to walk on it in the first place.

My hubby and I were talking the other night, as we watched yet another Dog Whisperer episode.  We've watched the show for a long time, pretty much since it started- way before we got Tucker of course, and were wondering- Do your dogs (specifically BMD) walk successfully on a treadmill, and do they seem to like it?

Since we are in Calgary, and snow/winter is fast approaching, we were playing with the idea of investing in a treadmill for Tucker (and us!) to help get through the cold, COLD winter months ahead. Not to completely stop walking him outside, just to be able to not do it as frequently or for as long, for both of our safety.  Neither of us want to be walking in -40degree weather, in a white out, on slick, ice covered roads/sidewalks.

So we thought we'd look into it and ask around, and what better place to ask then here!

Does the treadmill thing really work, or is it just edited to look like it works on the show? Do your dogs like it? How hard/easy was it to get them used to it?

Thanks for the input!

General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Re: So embrassed . . .
« on: August 30, 2008, 08:01:18 am »
LOL, good thread to read!

Tucker has not (knock on wood) pooped at the vets office, but he did poop on the last day of Puppy school, in the middle of the "graduation" class, after attending all 8 weeks of classes, 1 hour per week completely poop-free!  He was the ONLY puppy who didn't have an indoor accident, we were so proud, and then in the middle of our graduation "lap" around the obstacle course (proving just how well trained and focus our puppies had become) he squatted right in the middle of a hoola hoop he was walking over and pooped!

I have never heard so many people gasp at one time.  Poor Tucker, he was really embarassed.  Luckily we got our diploma anyway.  ;)

Thanks for all replies!

We were able to get our hands on a Chilly Bone and one of the Petstages toys (its a round ball with fabric pieces coming out of either end) and Tucker loves them both.

I agree with other posters that the Chilly Bone melts very fast, giving Tucker only about 20 minutes of chewing/gnawing on it after its been in the freezer for hours, which is disappointing. ...but he loves it so much I don't mind re-wetting and re-freezing a few times a day.

FAQs about puppies / Re: First day of Puppy training
« on: August 24, 2008, 04:56:58 pm »
Your puppy is adorable, and I love the name!

General Board for Big Dogs with Big Paws / Is there a Dog Fancy website?
« on: August 22, 2008, 07:36:57 pm »
I have googled Dog Fancy magazine, but am not pulling up a website for them- its all other peoples websites (like that advertise Dog Fancy magazines....b ut I am unable to order a subscription from them, as I'm in Canada.

I was hoping to not have to make a trip out to the bookstore to buy one copy to then mail in a subscription order....but looks like I may have to.

If you know of the website that actually connects me with Dog Fancy magazine, please let me know.  Hmmm, maybe they don't have one?

Thanks in advance.

LOL, thanks for the tip!  My local Petsmart doesn't carry them, I was there yesterday (actually to three different Petsmarts, and also 2 Petlands, 1 Picese Pet Emporium) and no one knew what I was talking about.

I did find the ebay seller another poster mentioned, but in the meantime, I soaked our Kong Wubba, and froze it for a couple hours, and it was a hit.  So perhaps the Chilly Bone is not necessary anyway.

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